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Hey Sumo dudes, I know about DRZ-SM's, but I know basically nothing about modifying them. Does this sound like a list of good and proper mods that one would do to a DRZ without killing it? Would a bike kitted out like this be essentially a DRZ in its ultimate form?kijiji.ca posted:Upgrades include: $5000 CDN, 24k kms, essentially one owner, in case you're curious.
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Linedance posted:$5000 CDN, 24k kms, essentially one owner, in case you're curious. When were the mods added? if it was at 4k km it's not nearly as good of a deal if it was at 20k km. Otherwise it sounds like an awesome bike and you guys always pay a super premium for bikes so you should probably buy it and wheelie off into the sunset (I am thinking of doing 434 kit this winter, people say to stay away from 470 kit due to reliability issues)
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apatite posted:When were the mods added? if it was at 4k km it's not nearly as good of a deal if it was at 20k km. Otherwise it sounds like an awesome bike and you guys always pay a super premium for bikes so you should probably buy it and wheelie off into the sunset (I am thinking of doing 434 kit this winter, people say to stay away from 470 kit due to reliability issues) doesn't say, but I'm guessing over the course of ownership. Ad says the springs were done 2 months ago, but I don't know about the rest. Guy says he bought the bike with 100kms on it, so he's had it a while. Realistically I won't be able to go look at it until the end of the month, but I'll send him a message then on the off chance it's still for sale. Says he's not in a hurry to sell and won't be entertaining low ballers, so there's a chance...
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Jul 7, 2014 16:46
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FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:You're insane if you take your DRZ on the interstates or anywhere above 60. I rode a buddies DRZ SM this weekend at 90. I don't see the issue? Its certainly smoother than my 2 stroke 250 at 90! I sort of want one. bad. real bad.
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Jul 7, 2014 17:07
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Google tells me 5k CDN is ~4700 dollars. You can probably talk him down to $4k USD since it has higher miles. Low mileage DRZ's command a bit of a premium. If that same bike had 5k miles it wouldn't be a bad buy at asking price IMO. The fact that it has pretty much every mod you'd want to do to a DRZ done already is a plus to most but YMMV. Some people are weird and like to do everything themselves. I like those people because they make bikes a WAY better deal for me because I'm not eating the cost of every single mod when I sell.
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Jul 7, 2014 17:35
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Linedance posted:Hey Sumo dudes, I know about DRZ-SM's, but I know basically nothing about modifying them. Does this sound like a list of good and proper mods that one would do to a DRZ without killing it? Would a bike kitted out like this be essentially a DRZ in its ultimate form? Thats a really decent setup for the money. I think the 434 is the best bang for your reliability buck. There are kits that make more power (470/490) but they are hard on cranks and bearings. FCR39 is of course the best option. MRD pipe is completely hand made and gorgeous, as well as being the best pipe (power-wise) you can get. Beware that the power it makes comes at the cost of sound. Mine has the quiet tip in it and it is still ear-poundingly loud. If you ride without ear plugs, expect to go deaf in short order. If you decide its too loud, you can resell it for close to its cost new if its in good shape, as they are high in demand. Hot cams are good, I'd look up the stage 2's and verify whether they will work with stock valve springs or not. If they need aftermarket springs, verify with the owner that they were installed. The racetech springs are good, if you are in or around that weight range. The rest of it is pretty standard DRZ stuff that is pretty hard to mess up. Throw that cyclops headlight in a volcano, they are so, SO ugly and inexplicably insanely popular.
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Jul 7, 2014 18:33
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Linedance posted:Hey Sumo dudes, I know about DRZ-SM's, but I know basically nothing about modifying them. Does this sound like a list of good and proper mods that one would do to a DRZ without killing it? Would a bike kitted out like this be essentially a DRZ in its ultimate form? I don't know how much they go for in Canuckistan, but that DRZ is basically as pimped out as it gets without going into really large and unreliable BB kits and silly things like colored bolts to match the bike.
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Jul 7, 2014 18:36
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Marxalot posted:I don't know how much they go for in Canuckistan, but that DRZ is basically as pimped out as it gets without going into really large and unreliable BB kits and silly things like colored bolts to match the bike. a quick look tells me it's just about on target for price. Barring me buying something daft like a MT01 or a big dumb Guzzi, it's either going to be something like this for ~$5000 or dropping another $1-2k for a 08'ish KTM Duke or SMC, or possibly a Dosoduro. Thanks for the tips, I'll definitely have a look once I'm back in the country.
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Jul 7, 2014 18:49
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It's probably a joke, at least I hope it is. Also if any of y'all midwestern DRZ owners need a 434 kit my buddy has an awesome set up that involves boring and relining the stock cylinder for a CP piston.
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Jul 7, 2014 19:08
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Yerok posted:It's probably a joke, at least I hope it is. Also if any of y'all midwestern DRZ owners need a 434 kit my buddy has an awesome set up that involves boring and relining the stock cylinder for a CP piston. Is that cheaper than just buying a brand new jug? It's like 250 bucks IIRC for the Magura chinese kit (that works fine, Sisneros himself confirmed that he's installed them and had no problems) and like 400 for the Cylinder Works kit. Those come with pistons and gaskets and such too.
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Jul 7, 2014 19:48
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Baller Witness Bro posted:It's like 250 bucks IIRC for the Magura chinese kit (that works fine, Sisneros himself confirmed that he's installed them and had no problems) any non-sisneros confirmation of chinese kit longevity? I'm kind of a tight-wad but don't want to buy junk. also a link to $250 kit? I see some no-names on ebay for $300 and change
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Jul 7, 2014 20:32
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Sumo goons, if you are in the central Midwest and have been looking for a 690smc, look no further. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3119867&pagenumber=49#post431871571 If you were too lazy to click here's the skinny. 2009 690smc with 5550mi. I'm the second owner. Newish tires, tons of spares/upgrades will be included (most of which is not installed). Also have a giant loop moto coyote saddlebag we can discuss. Asking $6500. Located in central IA. Buy my bike so I'm not tempted to pull my for sale ads! needknees fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jul 7, 2014 |
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Jul 7, 2014 20:52
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First goon to not buy that and buy a farkled DRZ is a fool
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Jul 7, 2014 22:08
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Buy it, then immediately sell it. Circle of life.......
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Jul 7, 2014 22:20
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Hey I've had this for three years which is a long rear end time for someone with motorcycle adhd like me  As posted in the marketplace thread, if some fellow CA jackass buys this bike at my asking price I will throw in the GLmoto Coyote with the sale. They're drat near 400 new.
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Jul 7, 2014 22:41
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needknees posted:Sumo goons, if you are in the central Midwest and have been looking for a 690smc, look no further. Sweet bike but an oil change every ~1300 miles?!
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needknees posted:Sumo goons, if you are in the central Midwest and have been looking for a 690smc, look no further. Ah Jesus, I might have to talk to my wife tonight. Any idea on the feasibility of transporting it to the east coast?
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High Protein posted:Sweet bike but an oil change every ~1300 miles?! Small oil capacity, high output relatively high rpm single (equals HEAT), plus getting beat up by the transmission? Yeah I'll bite the bullet and swap the synth dino goo more frequently than normal. If you think that's bad my trackbike gets oil changes every 300mi or so 
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Jul 7, 2014 23:04
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needknees posted:Small oil capacity, high output relatively high rpm single (equals HEAT), plus getting beat up by the transmission? Yeah I'll bite the bullet and swap the synth dino goo more frequently than normal. If you think that's bad my trackbike gets oil changes every 300mi or so On one hand I definitely get that, on the other hand doesn't KTM actually specify something bizarre like 10000 miles, at least for the latest ones? Not that I'd go with that...
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Jul 7, 2014 23:06
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I change the oil in my tractor (DRZ) every 900 so 1300 is pretty alright. Also, it was $350 for the cylinder, piston, and gaskets together. I guess it just depends on if it's worth it to you to not run Chinese parts. I don't have any personal experience with the Magura kit but like you said if Sisneros was okay with it I'm sure it's fine.
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Koruthaiolos posted:Ah Jesus, I might have to talk to my wife tonight. Any idea on the feasibility of transporting it to the east coast? I've never shipped a bike but supposedly uship is very reasonable in cost. Would definitely assist in getting it set up if you do the legwork on arranging shipping. High Protein posted:On one hand I definitely get that, on the other hand doesn't KTM actually specify something bizarre like 10000 miles, at least for the latest ones? Not that I'd go with that... It's for peace of mind more than anything. I'd rather spend the 50 bucks or so on oil and filters and KNOW my engine has fresh oil and won't lunch itself early. I can't remember the specific interval KTM recommends off the top of my head, but it always seemed a little long for what this engine goes through.
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apatite posted:any non-sisneros confirmation of chinese kit longevity? I'm kind of a tight-wad but don't want to buy junk. also a link to $250 kit? I see some no-names on ebay for $300 and change I found some random forums posts about it way back, I even posted in this thread about it I'm pretty sure. I emailed Sisneros at the time and he said he'd installed them before and had no problems. I think this was the kit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-DRZ-...0425697&vxp=mtr I think it's actually Namura and I accidentally typed Magura (they make hydraulic clutch kits and stuff). Some googling would be in order as it's been like a year since I looked that stuff up. I'm sure there's plenty out there that have tried them.
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Koruthaiolos posted:Ah Jesus, I might have to talk to my wife tonight. Any idea on the feasibility of transporting it to the east coast? I'll take you out there two up if you'll let me ride it once or twice.
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ought ten posted:I'll take you out there two up if you'll let me ride it once or twice. I was just about to make this same offer, but I'm guessing he'd chose 2 up on your concours over my ninja
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Jul 7, 2014 23:52
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High Protein posted:Sweet bike but an oil change every ~1300 miles?! That's quite a bit actually. My drz rarely makes it past 900 miles on an oil change
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Jul 7, 2014 23:56
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Changing the oil on a thumper why not do it all the time.
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It's a good thing that I'm about a grand short to impulse-buy that 690. I really don't have the room for one right now.Jim Silly-Balls posted:That's quite a bit actually. My drz rarely makes it past 900 miles on an oil change Doesn't suzuki say something like every 4k mi? I thought I was changing it too much at 1.5-2k.
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Jul 8, 2014 02:44
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On KTMs the oil pan also acts as a glitter trap so it's good to empty it regularly.
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Marxalot posted:Doesn't suzuki say something like every 4k mi? I thought I was changing it too much at 1.5-2k. I never got that recommendation. My transmission gets super notchy before 1K miles usually.
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needknees posted:Sumo goons, if you are in the central Midwest and have been looking for a 690smc, look no further. drat you, I'm in Europe for another two weeks and bought a WR250X shortly before I left but I want your 690. If it's still around when I get back I'll probably get in touch with you...only question is fly-n-ride or drive and trailer it back to TN.
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Baller Witness Bro posted:I found some random forums posts about it way back, I even posted in this thread about it I'm pretty sure. I emailed Sisneros at the time and he said he'd installed them before and had no problems. Lots of race-quad guys running them it looks like because quad guys are even cheaper than I am. Seeing mostly positive reviews so far but did find this "be sure to lap the head/cylinder mating surfaces, I did the same kit and had problems with the head gasket sealing, I have also read about others having the same issues with the same kit"
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The recommendation for oil changes on the 690 is 3k. I usually did mine around 2-3k, because with the expensive stuff the transmission never felt notchy before that.
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ought ten posted:Don't skip those pre-ride checks, kids. Follow up: I called Warp 9 this morning and explained what I found. They're sending four new spokes free of charge. The guy I talked to (Rob?) said he'd never heard of anything similar happening and that it sounded like something got bound in the spokes. I'm wondering now if someone tried to move the bike while it was chained up. Anyway, easy resolution, faith in Warp 9 is maintained, no rampage necessary. He also managed to get a nice dig in at DRZs, something like, "Spokes breaking on the front wheel is extremely rare, I mean it's not like people are jumping these things, they're not power monsters." Jeez okay I get it, I'll go buy a real SM.
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Z3n posted:The recommendation for oil changes on the 690 is 3k. I usually did mine around 2-3k, because with the expensive stuff the transmission never felt notchy before that. 2014 smc-r manual says every 10000km (6000mi), which is more than I'd be comfortable doing but I'd probably end up rounding down to like 5000 miles. My current bike has dedicated transmisssion oil which is probably great for oil life, on the other hand its being air cooled, not so much.
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High Protein posted:2014 smc-r manual says every 10000km (6000mi), which is more than I'd be comfortable doing but I'd probably end up rounding down to like 5000 miles. Oil change interval on the 1290 is loving 15k kms (9k miles). Insane. I've got 3k on it, 2k on this oil change, will probably change around 5k, depending on how it looks and feels.
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So Hot Cams said my exhaust cam was two degrees retarded from their spec. That certainly explains some things.
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High Protein posted:2014 smc-r manual says every 10000km (6000mi), which is more than I'd be comfortable doing but I'd probably end up rounding down to like 5000 miles. Still not sure what they did to the oil system that lets them get double the life out of the same oil with more power and displacement. They have an oil pressure sensor now, and I think the casings have changed a little so maybe there's more oil but it can't make that much difference surely? EDIT: Nope, still only 1.7 litres. WHAT DID THEY DO 
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The question is, is anyone actually running to 6K miles on a change? I'd guess like most recommendations for thumpers, its stupidly high. That or they're recommending some unicorn blood oil (more so than KTM normally does) that can take the ultimate pounding.
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KTM: The Ultimate Pounding™
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Same amount of the same Motorex UnicornSpaff 10W60 through the same two oil screens and two cartridge filters. The cases have changed slightly, I think. I saw some pictures of a newer one than mine and the drain/screen plugs were in slightly different places. I usually change mine at 2k, it gets notchy at 2.5-3k. I think a lot more changed in the 690cc versions than just punching out and re-mapping.
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