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"I have a passion for drinking and I feel your company is the perfect opportunity to bring myself to the next level." But honestly my go-to answer for stuff like that is helping others and the satisfaction of working in an ever-changing field where in the blink of an eye something new and exciting is on the horizon. Of course most of that is horseshit in its own way but once you practice it a lot it comes off as sincere! Stanos fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Tab8715 posted:Eh, it's a little smug but I'd take it over someone going about how they're passionate about document management. Well you don't have to deadpan "I'm absolutely in love with the idea of SQL Server integrity checks" but maybe make some bullshit up along the lines of your desire to accomplish technical goals, I dunno.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:10
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monster on a stick posted:Also either (a) be honest, or (b) practice your bullshit answer so often that it sounds sincere. Interviewers are adept at smelling bullshit (that is part of our job.) You're an IT Recruiter? Sounds like you should spill all your favorite bullshit answers  CLAM DOWN posted:Well you don't have to deadpan "I'm absolutely in love with the idea of SQL Server integrity checks" but maybe make some bullshit up along the lines of your desire to accomplish technical goals, I dunno. Yea, I suppose in retrospect you'd want to have some kind of balance but from my experience HR often asks for way too much. I'd probably say something along of how being in the industry is exciting, troubleshooting is almost like playing with a fun puzzle. Getting paged at 2AM for a outage is a rush. It's not a gimmick but a valuable skill that not only provides a solid career but may potentially improve the lives of others.  If someone kept pressing the issue, I'd just flat-out say it's about the money.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:33
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Tab8715 posted:You're an IT Recruiter? Sounds like you should spill all your favorite bullshit answers When I've been asked that question I never mention money even if they press, because it's always about the money for everyone. I've used that one before, about enjoying the puzzle of solving complex technical problems, but hey I actually so really enjoy that part and it's really satisfying figuring stuff out to me!
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Jul 10, 2014 19:35
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I actually do legitimately enjoy networking, especially design. But I didn't get into IT to do networking, I got into it because I needed a job. That part came later.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:39
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three posted:I want a Meraki AP. Hook me up, brother. https://meraki.cisco.com/webinars 3 year license, after which its just a nice heavy white box. Also cisco guy will keep phoning you about that rollout. Yep, changing hospital WiFi to refuse to work mode sounds great. Webinars seem to always be 1h+a few minutes, the guy on chat replied to my hi brad but afterwards became kinda useless. My question as to what happens when the internet is down never was answered in the webinar.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:49
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CLAM DOWN posted:Exactly, everyone works because of money, so why do you need to state it to the employer interviewing you? Tell them why you are in IT aside from money, because that's an obvious given and is a lovely smug boring answer. Tell them why you're in IT over say, public outhouse cleaning. I agree that "Tell them why you're in IT besides money" is a good approach, but I think that smug is still preferable to full of poo poo. Last time I got asked that question I compromised and lead with "Besides money?" to which the interviewer replied "Of course." - so we were on the same page before continuing.
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Jul 10, 2014 20:38
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"IT has the best puzzles to solve and the best shiny toys to play with." That's always served me well.
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Jul 10, 2014 20:44
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Comradephate posted:I agree that "Tell them why you're in IT besides money" is a good approach, but I think that smug is still preferable to full of poo poo. Last time I got asked that question I compromised and lead with "Besides money?" to which the interviewer replied "Of course." - so we were on the same page before continuing. Both are unwise. Just be honest and creative, we're all here because we love computers and are massive nerds who enjoy solving technical problems. You can make money in plenty of other ways, just tell them why you prefer doing it with big rear end computers.
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Jul 10, 2014 20:49
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Tab8715 posted:You're an IT Recruiter? Sounds like you should spill all your favorite bullshit answers Not a recruiter, I've just given interviews before. The problem with saying "it's all about the money" is that you are also saying a number of other things: - as soon as someone else offers you more money, you'll be out the door - you may not be serious about the interview, you just want an offer for more money to bring back to your current employer as leverage for a raise/promotion
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Jul 10, 2014 21:11
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SEKCobra posted:https://meraki.cisco.com/webinars I totally did the Meraki and Aerohive webinars just a couple weeks before leaving the bank, so hey free APs and no sales calls! Besides, the company was thinking about using consumer grade hardware for customer Wi-Fi (nothing can possibly go wrong), so maybe once the salesmen called asking for me it made them question their decision there..
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Jul 10, 2014 21:48
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Is there a thread for making mistakes? because I made a big boob this week. Preface: The company I work for has a ton of poo poo that has been setup and neglected/unaccounted for and generally mismanaged before my time, and for all intents and purposes I am an unqualified amateur who is the company's sole "IT Systems Administrator" running off second hand/outdated information about what we have. We moved offices a couple months ago and I got our ISP to move over the connection all fine and dandy, about two weeks ago they called up about our failover ADSL line hadn't been transferred. Ok fine I get information that we'll need a BT line to use, and I know we have some of their equipment so I call up BT about moving a connection, and after some awkward to-ing and fro-ing I got that sorted and an engineer came in to set up the line. Next up the ISP needs a MAC code from the line to provision, here I get confused and a few more telephone calls happen as that code is what you use for transferring to another provider. Then the ISP drop the nugget that I should only get the line rental from them as they'll be pushy to set us up with unneeded broadband; I set us up with broadband... the week prior. I was with our accountant at the time since I'm poo poo as resolving payments etc over the phone, to cut it short we're locked into the contract I signed us up with for two years, and the only way out is the cancellation fee to the tune of £400~ despite the fact that we've been paying them for a year prior of unused services (A list of telephone numbers, and THREE internet connections). The only saving grace is that they waived the cancellation free for the unused poo poo, and our accountant hasn't told the boss yet (Well, maybe). Granted I'm usually rushed off my feet so it can be hard to think straight sometimes, but I feel like the biggest moron who made a noose around his neck. TL;DR Thought I was doing the right thing, ended up signing up and cancelling unneeded Internet which cost the company £400 for nothing.
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Jul 10, 2014 22:01
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Alea iacta est. Having made a similar mistake before, I would recommend preparing a tomorrow's conversation quickly, even if it doesn't come up. Just explain why you hosed up and why you won't make the same mistake again, and it should be ok. £400 is small fry for a business.
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Jul 10, 2014 22:41
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Super Slash posted:TL;DR Thought I was doing the right thing, ended up signing up and cancelling unneeded Internet which cost the company £400 for nothing. Are you sure you didn't forget a few zeroes there? Who cares about £400?
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Jul 10, 2014 22:41
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I forgot to cancel an auto-renewing contract for an MDM package and we had to pay the £780 bill. No fucks were given because it's not a lot of cash and the project had saved way more than that in staff time. £400 is the cost of employing someone for two days, it doesn't matter.
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Jul 10, 2014 23:56
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monster on a stick posted:Not a recruiter, I've just given interviews before.
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Super Slash posted:TL;DR Thought I was doing the right thing, ended up signing up and cancelling unneeded Internet which cost the company £400 for nothing. Today I sat in a meeting to spec out hardware requirements for a new application stack. The guess was it would probably be around a million dollars including hardware, licenses, and other costs. But the possibility exists that we're overestimating by as much as 30% so the meeting dragged on while we ran numbers and tried to estimate potential usage and future growth without shooting too high for the launch, but without going under and loving ourselves with performance issues during peak usage. People don't care about money in the hundreds. They care about money in the hundreds of thousands.
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Tomorrow will be my last day as just a computer janitor. I read the books suggested previously and I think they'll help. Part of the job will be getting quotes from vendors when needed. The location does not have AD yet so I was looking into licensing for Server 2012 and CALs needed and my head exploded which is usually what happens when I look into MS licensing. From what I've read how device based CALs work, it seems like every device that glances at the server needs a CAL, user based CALs would be easier to manage and probably cheaper, is this usually the case?
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Jul 11, 2014 00:30
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The only time device based CALs make sense is if you run a call centre with shifts and none of those workers do anything remotely.
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Has anyone ever got an answer to why so many companies have contractors and enormously high-standards for hiring direct?
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Tab8715 posted:Has anyone ever got an answer to why so many companies have contractors and enormously high-standards for hiring direct?
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Tab8715 posted:Has anyone ever got an answer to why so many companies have contractors and enormously high-standards for hiring direct? Yes... In short it's for financial reasons. It's not so much our standard for direct hires is so high, it's just that we really don't need to commit to a Full Time Employee as much as we need help with short to medium term projects. It makes no sense for us to hire 10 Oracle specialists directly and then fire them 9 to 18 months later when we don't need them anymore. Bringing on a FTE is very expensive and despite common belief they're very hard to get rid of. There are some accounting financial things involved as well. Contractors are usually billed to Operating Expenses, while FTE's hit the annual recurring budget. For instance we're in the middle of a big QA ramp on one of our products.. We're paying a contracting company over a million dollars to supplement our QA staff for the next 6 months with a bunch of people instead of hiring another 10 QA people we won't need in 6 months. Unfortunately companies are utilizing contractors more and more due to the fluctuating staffing requirements reducing the number of FTE's. Yaos posted:Contractors are cheaper for the company and easier to get rid of. They only have to pay a salary, no benefits at all. Sometimes... our contractors actually cost more than our FTE's do, even including benefits.. it's the being able to get rid of them part that we pay a premium for. One of our contracting companies actually provides us a 'workforce on demand' almost... we tell them we need 12 people for 2 weeks to do X... they provide the human resources we need. If we only need 4, they provide 4. It works well for us, but it is not cheaper on an hourly or monthly basis than hiring a FTE. skipdogg fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Yaos posted:Contractors are cheaper for the company and easier to get rid of. They only have to pay a salary, no benefits at all. Contractors often cost more. They pay the premium because it's less HR headache, and contractors are easier to get rid of. Especially in states where it's very difficult to fire people, consultants/contractors are hugely beneficial. E: Also in the case of consultants, it means they get to avoid a lot of the vetting of candidates and instead just trust the consulting firm to send someone who isn't retarded. When hiring a full time employee the interview process can sometimes be arduous. When hiring a consultant it's basically "I have this many dollars and I want someone who can do a thing" and magically you turn your dollars into a person.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:Today I sat in a meeting to spec out hardware requirements for a new application stack. The guess was it would probably be around a million dollars including hardware, licenses, and other costs. But the possibility exists that we're overestimating by as much as 30% so the meeting dragged on while we ran numbers and tried to estimate potential usage and future growth without shooting too high for the launch, but without going under and loving ourselves with performance issues during peak usage.
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Jul 11, 2014 04:52
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How many of you have come across 5 year contract gigs?
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Jul 11, 2014 05:56
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Tab8715 posted:How many of you have come across 5 year contract gigs? It's not unheard of in the federal arena. There a many term federal employees whose contracts are for 5 years, and some of the contracting firms themselves may offer 5 year contracts, as the federal rebid cycle is generally 5 years - 1 primary year and 4 option years.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:People don't care about money in the hundreds. They care about money in the hundreds of thousands.
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evil_bunnY posted:lovely bosses do. The only thing i care about is how you communicate it to me. Also most civilized countries have customer protection laws that provide grace periods and forbid fees on broken contracts when no services have been delivered. Oh, you've expanded your scope of weekly "better than you"s to include the UK now. I'm willing to hazard a guess that even in these supposed "civilized" countries, waiting for a year to complain about paying for services you haven't been using falls outside of the grace period. psydude fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Jul 11, 2014 09:25
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Also on what planet does a business buying business services come under the remit of consumer protection laws? The clue's in the name. Edit: Misread customer as consumer. But the laws are very different for B2C / B2B.
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Outside of USMT, is there any way to create an user profile on a new machine without actually logging in as that user? I'm aware of the "runas /env /profile /user:<domain>\<username> cmd.exe" command but that still requires their password.
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Jul 11, 2014 17:41
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:Outside of USMT, is there any way to create an user profile on a new machine without actually logging in as that user? The short answer seems to be 'no'. Theoretically you could maybe play with the ProfileList and ProfileGuid keys? But I can't imagine that would work properly.
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Endings posted:The short answer seems to be 'no'. Thanks - that's what I thought. I'm kind of surprised that there isn't an option, but that certainly seems to be the case.
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True in the grand scheme of things it's only small potatoes in the realm of financial cock-ups. Though today I was refused part of an equipment order where I had to take out a pack of iPhone screen protectors, because "They are a waste of time and won't need them anyway" even when I shown an example scagged up iPhone 5 which is being reassigned from an ex-manager. Ruins my unboxing boner knowing all this cool stuff is going to be battered. bosses.txt Will buy overly expensive modern potted plants and trees for the office, cheap out of the vital things; c'est la vie.
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I've got software that uses a card reader to get a 20 digit ID. Is there any easy way to fake a card reader so that I can just type in a code and have the software think it came from a card?
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Jul 11, 2014 23:56
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I've got software that uses a card reader to get a 20 digit ID. http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=202
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I guess as a career development thing I ought to learn how to program but that's a lot of work to troubleshoot the problem I'm trying to solve. Would Python be a good place to start?
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Sorry for not being more specific - there's usually a thread for "hay will someone write me a utility?" What you're describing sounds to me like a hardware stub that you can feed a variable to - I'm thinking about it from a software testing perspective. In any event, It seemed like a problem that someone over there would be interested in solving.
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Chrome Remote Desktop has made my life so much easier. I don't work in IT, but I'm an unwilling consultant whenever my parents need any help doing anything on the computer. It took maybe 10 minutes of talking them through the install on the phone, but the more complicated stuff I needed to do took just seconds after that 
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canyoneer posted:Chrome Remote Desktop has made my life so much easier. I don't work in IT, but I'm an unwilling consultant whenever my parents need any help doing anything on the computer. Oooooh... Currently I use TeamViewer to control a Pandora laptop (for our background music) in our network closet. Would Chrome RD do that better?
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