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I bought my first stick the other day! No clue what I'm doing with it yet but it's one step closer to playing on the ice for real.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:40
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Find a hard smooth floor and stickhandle a golf ball while staring at the wall.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:18
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xzzy posted:Find a hard smooth floor and stickhandle a golf ball while staring at the wall. I've been working my way through the Bond films so I just stare at the TV while doing this. When you say stick handle what sort of movements am I looking for? Just back and forth and try and control it?
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Jul 11, 2014 02:08
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Yep, just move it around your body without losing control. Youtube stick handling drills if you want some tricks to work on. It's something I wish I did a heck of a lot more of, I'd be at least five percent less crappy.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:12
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bgreman posted:I've got some strangeness going on with my ribs/intercostals/lower-back muscles recently. I think it comes from falling over the boards a few weeks ago while trying to jump on to the ice. Few things are more embarrassing than hurting yourself during a line change.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:28
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xryokus posted:I've been working my way through the Bond films so I just stare at the TV while doing this. When you say stick handle what sort of movements am I looking for? Just back and forth and try and control it? Start just moving it back and forth in front of you. If your feet are shoulder width apart and your knees are bent you should be stickhandling back and forth about the same width as your feet. To mix it up start going out wide, so go back and forth a few times the normal way, then push the ball as far to your left as you can, bring it back to the center and stickhandle some more. Then push it as far to the right as you can, bring it back and stickhandle. When you go wide let your bottom hand slide up the stick and then bring it back down as you come back to the middle. Just do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REAqCB9vfbU Just kidding, this is a decent demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd9qvEBt620
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Jul 11, 2014 02:45
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Don't listen to these tryhards. Practice your post-game beer drinking while watching movies.
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Jul 11, 2014 04:25
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Don't listen to these tryhards. Practice your post-game beer drinking while watching movies. this, but if you need a breakdown, Chemmy posted:Start just moving it back and forth in front of you. Chemmy posted:If your feet are shoulder width apart and your knees are bent you should be stickhandling back and forth about the same width as your feet. bathroom stance is essential as well, since you have to do something between periods I guess. but don't forget essential fluid transportation methods Chemmy posted:To mix it up start going out wide, so go back and forth a few times the normal way, yadda yadda yadda 
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Jul 11, 2014 05:07
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Learn to say important things like "this ice sucks" and "I need my skates sharpened" when you do bad things on the ice. Another important technique to master is looking intently at your stick blade and bending it like you think it might be cracked after you mess up stick handling or shooting the puck. This is a very important skill
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Jul 11, 2014 05:50
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toxicsunset posted:Learn to say important things like "this ice sucks" and "I need my skates sharpened" when you do bad things on the ice. Another important technique to master is looking intently at your stick blade and bending it like you think it might be cracked after you mess up stick handling or shooting the puck. This is a very important skill Blaming the ice for essentially anything negative that happens is crucial. Get beat and it cost a goal? "Puck is bouncing all over this lovely ice." Trip over the blue line? "There's a big rut over there." Lose the puck in the offensive zone? "Maybe if the Zamboni driver hadn't left so much water on this fuckin ice!"
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Jul 11, 2014 08:48
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Great Stickhandling Vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrYe0-ZX0Y&t=80s Associated Article: http://howtohockey.com/how-to-stickhandle But generally speaking you want to practice stickhandling all around your body and get comfortable moving the puck from Zone A to Zone B to help protect the puck from the opposition.
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Jul 11, 2014 09:34
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The phrases "the bounces aren't going my way tonight" and "gently caress" will become 90% of your hockey vocabulary. Also if you are a winger forget everything you've learned about defense. Backchecking is for tryhards.
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Jul 11, 2014 13:19
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lazerwolf posted:The phrases "the bounces aren't going my way tonight" and "gently caress" will become 90% of your hockey vocabulary. Also if you are a winger forget everything you've learned about defense. Backchecking is for tryhards. Or, you know, freely chase the puck wherever it takes you in the defensive zone, especially if it means hitting your own defenseman and (ideally) giving your opponent half a minute of 5-on-3.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:13
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That safe pass in your own zone to the winger standing on the boards ready to start the breakout? That pass is for pussies, man. Throw that poo poo directly up the middle to the guy already at the other blue line.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:59
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What the gently caress kind of winger posts up waiting for a pass? Lazy rear end needs to get himself deep into the neutral zone so he can scoop up a pass that somehow made it through three opponents and trigger a sweet breakaway.
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Jul 11, 2014 16:08
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Zip! posted:That safe pass in your own zone to the winger standing on the boards ready to start the breakout? That pass is for pussies, man. Throw that poo poo directly up the middle to the guy already at the other blue line. You're a pussy if you aren't that guy on the other blue line. Passing is for bitches.
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Jul 11, 2014 16:23
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:You're a pussy if you aren't that guy on the other blue line. Passing is for bitches. Yeah. The forward pass wasn't originally legal in hockey - for good reason.
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Jul 12, 2014 06:09
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For cherry-picking bonus points, tap your stick to call for the pass while screaming "HEY HEY HEY HEY." Yell at the defenseman for not sending you that 120 foot pass when you both get back to the bench.
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Jul 12, 2014 08:00
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I went to the Preds' used equipment sale today on a whim. I was only really planning on getting hockey socks but ended up grabbing some barely-used Michael Del Zotto Bauer Supreme NXG skates for $100 (plus whatever it will cost me to put runners on them). Sweet deal if I end up liking them. Also, anyone want some Preds home (gold) hockey socks for $6 + whatever usps flat rate shipping is? Got an extra set.
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Jul 12, 2014 19:24
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Thufir posted:I went to the Preds' used equipment sale today on a whim. I was only really planning on getting hockey socks but ended up grabbing some barely-used Michael Del Zotto Bauer Supreme NXG skates for $100 (plus whatever it will cost me to put runners on them). Sweet deal if I end up liking them. Also, anyone want some Preds home (gold) hockey socks for $6 + whatever usps flat rate shipping is? Got an extra set. I'd be down if they're still available. spartan22x [at] gmail [.] com, if you want to work out how to do it?
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Jul 12, 2014 20:02
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That's a great deal on skates. Congrats!
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Jul 12, 2014 22:46
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I went to an international exhibition game between USA and Canada on the weekend (details here if you’re interested: http://www.internationalicehockey.com.au/news-international-ice-hockey-australia-2014.html) . It was a lot of fun, and even though the majority of players were from European leagues with a couple of AHL, and NHL players the skill level was phenomenal compared to what we normally get to see here. I’ve never seen an NHL game live but it certainly increased my desire to do so. I also went down to the rink yesterday and picked up some suspenders, when I got home and went to try them out I noticed that on my left pant leg I only have one button. It’s not even like the button had fallen out or anything, there is no hole at all. I picked the pants up from the bargain bin during the sale though… so not sure if I’m going to be able to do anything about it other than rectify it myself (ie: get a button and sew it in.)
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Jul 14, 2014 02:39
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Life lesson time, kids (sorry, this is long): I haven't posted in this thread for a while because I haven't been playing. Specifically, I haven't played since April (and let me tell you, it's been ripping me out of the frame not to play). And now I'm looking at surgery, and a minimum of another 6 months off the ice. Back in December, I tweaked my ankle a little bit, but hey, it wasn't so bad. It happened gradually. I'd notice a general soreness after games that would disappear by the following day or two later, and by game time the following week, I was back to 100%, so I'd skate again. I'd be sore again, it would wear off, it would get better, lather, rinse, repeat for about two months. I never stopped skating during this time or bothered to get it looked at because it never got worse. So really, what's a doctor going to do? Problem was, it never got better, either. And then one day, it did get worse. And I taped it up and kept on going, because hockey. I finally had to admit defeat in late March, and went to see an orthopedist in early April. He diagnosed a ligament sprain and tendinitis, put me in a brace, gave me some PT to do at home, and said come back in 3 weeks if it's not better. I waited about 6 weeks. It didn't get better. I went back, he ordered an MRI. MRI results come back. His nurse calls me and says that my tendon is torn and they're referring me to a surgeon to discuss my options. Well, poo poo. I go into the appointment with the surgeon thinking he's going to tell me "no problem, we'll stitch up your tendon, it's same-day surgery and you're out the door." Yeah, not so much. He first tells me that, if I were 60 or 70, he'd put me in a boot for a couple of months and follow that up with PT and that would be that. But then he says, because I'm young and expect to play again, surgery is the better (read: ONLY) option. And what this surgery entails is replacing my torn tendon with a tendon in my foot, taking a piece of bone from my tibia to reconstruct part of my heel, and lengthening my calf muscle because oh yeah, there's something wrong there too. This is no outpatient surgery. This is "overnight in the hospital" surgery. Also, this is "you can't work for 2-3 weeks afterward" surgery. This is "6 weeks before you can think about PT" surgery. Some anatomy trivia I learned in all of this (and why they have to reconstruct part of my heel): apparently if you have a tendon injury like mine and it goes untreated for a long period of time (like mine), it can cause the arch of your foot to collapse (like mine). They have to reposition the bones in my heel to repair my arch. At least it's not my driving foot. TL, DR: If you tweak your ankle, it's probably a good idea to deal with that poo poo up front before you tear your tendon and cause the arch in your foot to collapse. Zamboni Rodeo fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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Jul 14, 2014 03:30
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That sucks. I wonder a doctor will say about my messed up shin/ankle when I finally go see one. This is pretty much why I am putting it off.
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Jul 14, 2014 04:00
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This is why I'm pretty much putting off getting my shoulders looked at. I know my rotator cuff(s) are all sorts of hosed from the years of baseball/softball and then exacerbated from goaltending but everyone I talk to who had to get their shoulders fixed, ended up having to just sit around for weeks with no physical activity. I'll deal with it until it really blows up, I guess. It is kind of bad rear end to say you played on a torn tendon, though.
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Jul 14, 2014 05:09
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You don't have to have surgery, and the doctor looking at it doesn't change things. If the doc says "hey, you need serious surgery" you can say "no thanks it doesn't bug me". You might as well find out if it's "actually if you do this simple thing before it fails completely it'll be way simpler".
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Jul 14, 2014 05:20
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Christ that sucks. I've had nagging injuries in my left wrist and right thumb for a while now and refuse to get it checked out because gently caress high deductible health plans. poo poo.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Christ that sucks. I've had nagging injuries in my left wrist and right thumb for a while now and refuse to get it checked out because gently caress high deductible health plans. poo poo. I've already met my deductible this year due to a reaggravation of the knee injury I suffered playing hockey in early spring 2012 (which I subsequently got surgery for: Zamboni_Rodeo, your experience sounds almost exactly like mine, except replace torn foot tendon with dislocated knee). Now every time I get any kind of tweak or twist or nasty bump, I go to the doctor and tell them to put some xrays on my tab. Hockey is hard on bodies. Today while one of my teams was getting dressed before a game, someone pointed out that of 10 people in the room, 7 of them wore some kind of knee support or brace. At least four of us have had reconstructive knee surgery. In an unrelated note, I had probably my best beer league game every tonight. I was such a hassle in front of the net for one of the bad guy d-men that he started getting frustrated and trying some lovely stuff: can openers, slew foots. At one point he did a big old two-handed slash down on my stick in the crease, then put his stick between my skates. He twisted, I fell, but I took his stick with me. He's waving at the ref for a penalty and when he didn't get it, he turned around and slew footed another of our players and got a penalty for that. When he finally got another shift, he got a double minor for an elbow. While the guy he slew footed was chirping him on the way to box, he almost got an unsportsmanlilke for opening the door and stepping back on the ice, which would have gotten him tossed. So getting in his head was fun. Later, I was leading the rush when I realized my option were all being cut off as three bad guys converged on me, so I (like an idiot) tried to do a quick stop at the blue line. I passed it back to another forward charging up, since he had a free lane, but I also fell down into the offensive zone. I would have ruined the rush if I tried to pick my rear end up off the ice, so I did a barrel roll back across the line. The guy I passed to sniped it from above the circle. Got an assist while laid out on the ice. Got a bunch of mock cheers for it on the bench. bgreman fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jul 14, 2014 |
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As expected the Pro Shop won't help me. Any of you put a button on hockey pants before? Got any advice?
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Reading this made me think of my foot and the problems I've been having with it recently. Back in March or so, I took a slapshot off the top of my left foot. As expected, it hurt like hell but a few days afterwards the pain went away. Now after every game, the top of the foot is sore and I can't understand why since it's been so long since the puck hit it. I think I might go out to the hospital to get checked out. Thanks! Hope you're doing ok Zamboni! best of luck.
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xryokus posted:As expected the Pro Shop won't help me. Any of you put a button on hockey pants before? Got any advice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXNpeYruY4 This might help
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bgreman posted:Hockey is hard on bodies. I actually think hockey is one of the easier sports on the body, provided you don't run into people/boards (goalies excluded, their hips and knees eventually fall apart). Compare to soccer where players constantly make strong lateral cuts, that's an MCL/ACL tear waiting to happen. I've never played basketball but I assume it has the same issues. Or running where repeated compression of the joints will eventually cause problems. In general any sport will wear the body out, but it's not like there's any point in preserving it. There's no high score bonus when we die. But at least hockey isn't actively trying to tear tendons. 
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xzzy posted:I actually think hockey is one of the easier sports on the body, provided you don't run into people/boards (goalies excluded, their hips and knees eventually fall apart). Compare to soccer where players constantly make strong lateral cuts, that's an MCL/ACL tear waiting to happen. I've never played basketball but I assume it has the same issues. Or running where repeated compression of the joints will eventually cause problems. Contact and freak accidents (which hockey dominates) aside, hockey is gentler than most sports when it comes to things like joints and bones. But it seems to be not quite as forgiving when it comes to things like, eg, your groin and hips - muscles and chunks of physiology that it forces you to use in ways that I don't imagine we evolved for.
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Every adult sport has a ton of injuries. Anecdotally I think I saw a LOT more guys get seriously hurt in soccer games and (lol) softball than I ever have in hockey. Soccer was just a bloodbath for broken ankles/legs and ligament tears (myself included: broken ankle). I've been playing adult no contact hockey since I was 20 and in that time I can only think of two times that I've seen injuries that required hospitalization and neither was all that significant; one was a broken collarbone and one was an MCL tear.
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Habibi posted:Contact and freak accidents (which hockey dominates) aside, hockey is gentler than most sports when it comes to things like joints and bones. But it seems to be not quite as forgiving when it comes to things like, eg, your groin and hips - muscles and chunks of physiology that it forces you to use in ways that I don't imagine we evolved for. The hip thing has been studied. I saw an item on Science Daily a couple of years ago where it was found that 70% of professional hockey players studied had some sort of hip dysfunction, whether or not they were symptomatic. I don't remember how many guys they tested, though. We figured out in the locker room the other night that out of 9 skaters we'd had 5 injuries that required surgery (3 ankles, 2 shoulders) courtesy of hockey.
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Yeah I guess I shouldn't have just said "hockey is hard on bodies." All sports are hard on bodies. Those saying hockey is less hard on your joints and stuff are spot on: I can skate all day long, but running for more than a few minutes makes my post-surgery knee ache and burn. I think the biggest thing is that for a lot of beer/rec league players, hockey might be the only real exercise they get. I didn't grow up playing sports, and my body wasn't used to years of strenuous physical exertion. All that said, I would advise that if anyone has lingering physical issues because of an injury, don't put it off. You could be doing long-term damage to yourself. I'm not saying automatically elect for surgery when your surgical consult inevitably pushes it on you (I mean, what is a surgeon going to do? Not advocate surgery?), but at least figure out what's wrong and what all your options are. Educating yourself on the injury and various treatments can't hurt, but it's hard to do that when you're just speculating on what the injury is. Checking my privilege right here for having pretty decent health insurance, making diagnosis costs something of a non-issue for me. Those of you who don't and have already hurt yourselves, that really sucks, but I still advise getting to the bottom of the injury before it gets worse to the point of affecting your non-hockey life. You don't want to be the friend of mine who put off an ACL reconstruction for 12 years and will now need a knee replacement before age 40. I am not a doctor. This is just my (anecdotal) experience, and second-hand information from other amateur athletes I work with regularly (I coach for a roller derby league, and THAT is a sport that seems actively designed to destroy ankles and knees).
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bgreman posted:All that said, I would advise that if anyone has lingering physical issues because of an injury, don't put it off. You could be doing long-term damage to yourself. I'm not saying automatically elect for surgery when your surgical consult inevitably pushes it on you (I mean, what is a surgeon going to do? Not advocate surgery?), but at least figure out what's wrong and what all your options are. Educating yourself on the injury and various treatments can't hurt, but it's hard to do that when you're just speculating on what the injury is. Actually, yeah, there are a good number of conservative orthopedic surgeons who won't push for surgery unless it's really necessary. The trick is just knowing whether you've got that guy or not.
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I've been playing for like 25 years and hips and groin are hosed up. Same ole story, always nagged me but never did anything about it because whatever hip/groin I hurt always got better in time to play next week...until it didn't. Now I have stretches and pt exercises to do everyday (everyday I remember to do them) just to stay mobile in my day to day life. Oh and I'm only 31. Can't wait to see how many exercises and stretches I have to do by the time I'm fifty.
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