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I usually check CNN first thing in the morning, just to see what the MSM is driving narrative-wise. Today, the top story is hot car toddler death speculation. Now, I get that child death hype is a huge driver for CNN, but down in the side bar is that story about the Spring, TX deal where the dude shot and killed 4 of his kids. So why is the death of one kid leading the death of four? I suspect it's because most parents have secretly thought in a moment of weakness at 3 am after 2 weeks of no sleep about how to get away with murdering their infants.
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zoux posted:I usually check CNN first thing in the morning, just to see what the MSM is driving narrative-wise. Today, the top story is hot car toddler death speculation. Now, I get that child death hype is a huge driver for CNN, but down in the side bar is that story about the Spring, TX deal where the dude shot and killed 4 of his kids. So why is the death of one kid leading the death of four? The toddler thing is a legit hosed up story filled with poo poo like the dad posting on /r/childfree and both of them just happening to google 'how long can a child survive in a hot car' or whatever and the mom's first reaction to her husband being arrested for possibly murdering their child asking how much he said. It's a 'bigger' story because it's two inept child murderers where near every day something else new and terrible comes out about them.
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Jul 10, 2014 14:25
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Tatum Girlparts posted:the dad posting on /r/childfree Lol Is Nancy Grace foaming the mouth over this poo poo?
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Jul 10, 2014 14:27
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This was my favourite quote from that story:quote:He also testified that when Ross and Leanna Harris were in an interview room, Ross Harris told his wife that Cooper looked "peaceful" and that his eyes were closed when he was removed from the vehicle. He told his wife, "I dreaded how he would look," Stoddard said, noting how Harris had used the past tense.
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Jul 10, 2014 14:33
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Given all the ridiculous steps that parents take to ensure the safety of their children it seems to me that murdering a baby and making it look like an accident would be pretty easy.
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Jul 10, 2014 14:41
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Credit poo poo going down in Portugal today
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Jul 10, 2014 15:06
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That story was initially horrifying story to parents who (though it was exceedingly unlikely) COULD make the same kind of mistake. People share these kind of "man aren't I the worst!" stories in small talk all the time. I don't expect people without kids to feel this way, or that everyone with kids SHOULD feel this way, it's just I was recently on the other side of this and for me at least the change in how I took news about kids was palpable. When my wife gchatted me the original story I wrote back "please don't send me stories like this", but the reason I didn't want to metabolize it basically the same reason many other people do. It's a train wreck. In better/later light the story has become the Nancy Grace/NY Post bad-people-doing-very-bad-things-to-people-who-trust/need-them story. These stories have always and probably will always be potential front page items, even without the two-stage aspect zoux posted:Given all the ridiculous steps that parents take to ensure the safety of their children it seems to me that murdering a baby and making it look like an accident would be pretty easy. pangstrom fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Jul 10, 2014 15:22
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pangstrom posted:
Didn't know I was posting with a serial killer haha tbp
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Jul 10, 2014 15:45
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zoux posted:Lol She has been tweeting about it with the hashtag #HotCarDeath
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Jul 10, 2014 17:26
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Hot Car sounds like a thing from Arrested Development or Seinfeld.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:28
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Swan Oat posted:She has been tweeting about it with the hashtag #HotCarDeath That sounds like something a potential serial killer does in sex. Or a horrible wrestling finishing move.
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Jul 10, 2014 17:29
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zoux posted:Hot Car sounds like a thing from Arrested Development
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Jul 10, 2014 17:31
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Swan Oat posted:She has been tweeting about it with the hashtag #HotCarDeath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFA_gR8soc
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Jul 10, 2014 20:59
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zoux posted:Hot Car sounds like a thing from Seinfeld. It smells...  IT STILL SMELLS!! Edit: was cleaning up after a showing of D'souza's latest crap fest and overheard people linking Autism and vaccines to Obama Voters... 
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Jul 10, 2014 21:00
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i'm finishing up nixonland and it has been amazing. a very bold thesis and as far as i can tell it was well-argued. with that in mind, what are some criticisms of it? at this point i'm basically convinced that nixon is almost single-handedly responsible for the modern political divide in the US, but i'm also not super familiar with the subject matter
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Jul 10, 2014 23:34
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A friend just shared this and I'm still  http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/07/prostitute-accused-of-murdering-google.html quote:Prostitute Accused of Murdering Google Exec with Heroin on Yacht That doesn't sound like an accident.
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Jul 10, 2014 23:58
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Unless there's some extra reason to murder a google executive that sounds exactly like an accident.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:01
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Obviously not an accident because of the extensive medical knowledge prostitutes have to tell the difference between a heroin user nodding off and one ODing.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:22
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sounds like a google exec OD'd and his prostitute freaked out and ran.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:30
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SlipUp posted:Obviously not an accident because of the extensive medical knowledge prostitutes have to tell the difference between a heroin user nodding off and one ODing. I think you mean for this to be sarcasm, but everything in it sounds true to me.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:36
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Miltank posted:sounds like a google exec OD'd and his prostitute freaked out and ran. "Well, gently caress. On the plus side, nobody's going to be here for a bit, so I'm not in TOO much of a hurry."
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Jul 11, 2014 00:42
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MickeyFinn posted:I think you mean for this to be sarcasm, but everything in it sounds true to me. It's actually super easy to OD on heroin without people around you knowing. Like, they call it on the nod for a reason, after a bit you go from drowsy/sluggish to, usually, just kinda falling asleep for a little bit. It's super common for people around heroin users to think they're asleep then go 'oh poo poo no he's dead'.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:50
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That part that bugged me was the description of her behavior when she left. They made it seem like she was very casual about it.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:57
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:That part that bugged me was the description of her behavior when she left. They made it seem like she was very casual about it. Yea a hooker was more worried about trying to avoid looking like a murderer than anything else, zany. Like, yea maybe she held him down and shot him up or whatever but as a dude who has had friends die in their heroin sleep it's not some crazy cover story to make up, and most people would be fair to go 'oh gently caress I thought he was asleep now he's dead and there's no one around to vouch for me I'm so hosed' and act dumb.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:03
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Is it too much of stretch to think the hooker saw him drift off and just thought "oh good he's asleep I can loving leave now" instead of it all being premeditated? I don't really see her getting more than manslaughter if that's the case
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Jul 11, 2014 01:11
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HalfHazard posted:Is it too much of stretch to think the hooker saw him drift off and just thought "oh good he's asleep I can loving leave now" instead of it all being premeditated? I don't really see her getting more than manslaughter if that's the case Or that, yea, either a freak out or 'alright rich dude's asleep time to finish my drink and bail', both way more reasonable to me than elaborate escort assassin.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:12
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Of course the prostitute will be able to afford a good lawyer who can credibly make that case in coahahaha who am I kidding
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Jul 11, 2014 01:18
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It definitely sounds like that unless she like injected it in a nefarious way (he was sleeping and/or she gave him WAY too much or something) or there's some motive, and not just the guy wanted to get high and was scared of needles or something. Anyway, tough to say without more details and I don't know if the police arresting her is indicative of something like that, or if it's still considered some version of "murder" if you consensually inject somebody with drugs and you walk out as they die in some non-obvious way.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:26
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MickeyFinn posted:I think you mean for this to be sarcasm, but everything in it sounds true to me. That's because you know nothing about heroin, but have the courage to talk about it like you do anyway.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:28
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baw posted:i'm finishing up nixonland and it has been amazing. a very bold thesis and as far as i can tell it was well-argued. If you liked Nixonland, you'll love Before the Storm, which is Perlstein's book about the Goldwater '64 movement. Having read both, I don't think Perlstein is arguing in Nixonland that Dick was the source of the modern political divide in the US. Rather, I think he uses the book to explain the circumstances that surrounded Nixon's resurrection in '68 and re-election in '72, specifically that the "silent majority" was very real. It's good context to have if you grew up in the 80's, 90's, or 00's and learned from TV documentaries that the only things that happened in the late 60's was Woodstock, the Beatles, and The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. That was a minority movement that had an outsized impact on popular culture and I think the point of Nixonland is to tell the other side of the tale, focusing on the avatar of the silent majority. I enjoyed Nixon Agonistes a bit more because it focuses on the causes of the political culture in America and explains why there was nobody better to stamp the dirt down on American Liberalism than Nixon. It was also written in 1969-70, so it comes before the fall of the institution of the President. Oh, and obviously you should read Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 if you haven't already.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:37
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Finally reading Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 after all the recommendations and I cannot believe even Rolling Stone was willing to give HST a job doing this poo poo. Just got past the part where he drunkenly lends his press pass to an ex-con who gets drunk and assaults Ed Muskie and into the part where he goes off on a tangent about Muskie being addicted to speed which was complete bullshit he was just spewing to meet his goal for column inches.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:41
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spoon0042 posted:Of course the prostitute will be able to afford a good lawyer who can credibly make that case in coahahaha who am I kidding Her father is some tech CEO. She wasn't a street corner hooker, she was a "gently caress you, dad" hooker.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:47
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Romney '12 desperately needed a HST, for everyone.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:51
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SlipUp posted:Romney '12 desperately needed a HST, for everyone. Michael Hastings' Panic 2012 e-book has a Fear and Loathing style chapter covering the Obama campaign fundraisers in Vegas. I thought it was the weakest chapter of the book, but if you want to read about a campaign reporter doing bong hits with strippers, it's a thing that exists.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:57
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Playing anti flag in a bar full of rednecks and bikers; the glory of Internet enabled jukeboxes
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Jul 11, 2014 02:28
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Obama may need to make room next to his Grammys and Nobel Peace Prize...
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Jul 11, 2014 02:29
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It's just the producers who are up for the Emmy (haha Scott Aukerman getting an Emmy) Sucks, because Obama would've been halfway on his way to being the first president to get an EGOT.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:44
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Tatum Girlparts posted:It's actually super easy to OD on heroin without people around you knowing. Like, they call it on the nod for a reason, after a bit you go from drowsy/sluggish to, usually, just kinda falling asleep for a little bit. It's super common for people around heroin users to think they're asleep then go 'oh poo poo no he's dead'. This was depicted pretty well in Stephen King's The Dark Tower series. In the second book, The Drawing of the Three, the character Eddie Dean and his brother Henry are heroin addicts. Some Mafia goons are holding Henry as insurance to keep Eddie in line because they think the drug run they had him doing has gone bad and Eddie is running for the Feds. They're keeping him dosed with heroin to keep him quiet, and he just kind of quietly slips away, no fanfare, just no more Henry Dean. It takes the guys watching him several minutes to realize he's gone. That scene, the way Henry's portrayed, always gets me a bit. I know Stephen King has written some crap, but I love The Dark Tower and I always will.
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Jul 11, 2014 03:26
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Chantilly Say posted:Finally reading Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 after all the recommendations and I cannot believe even Rolling Stone was willing to give HST a job doing this poo poo. Just got past the part where he drunkenly lends his press pass to an ex-con who gets drunk and assaults Ed Muskie and into the part where he goes off on a tangent about Muskie being addicted to speed which was complete bullshit he was just spewing to meet his goal for column inches. The best part is that after Watergate the Muskie people started thinking Hunter was an agent for Nixon Also McCarthy should have taken HST's advice and done a photo-op drinking beer on the beach in a Grateful Dead tee
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rscott posted:Playing anti flag in a bar full of rednecks and bikers; the glory of Internet enabled jukeboxes They had some good stuff early on but after A New Kind of Army just about every song sounded identical. Disappointing.
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