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Kempy
Dec 15, 2009

Onion Vanguard posted:

Okay, I have never jail-broken a phone before so I have no idea what I am doing. I am following the instructions on the OP however, I can do all of this on a Mac right? And this works for British iPhones right?

Sorry, only the land of freedom, America, can possess jail broken phones.

Nah any phones fine mate, just google the instructions and make sure you have passcode off, find my iphone off & an unencrypted backup saved to iTunes. Goodluck.

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Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

Onion Vanguard posted:

Okay, I have never jail-broken a phone before so I have no idea what I am doing. I am following the instructions on the OP however, I can do all of this on a Mac right? And this works for British iPhones right?

It should work. I've heard more problems on Pangu Mac than Windows, though that's largely anecdotal and its more of keep running it till it works.

For new tweaks, use r/jailbreak's Escape Plan, a really good starter guide.

ibntumart
Mar 18, 2007

Good, bad. I'm the one with the power of Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton, and Mehen.
College Slice

bobfather posted:

If you DFU restore, it will absolutely reset. If you OTA or upgrade in place using iTunes, try logging into your phone using alpine, I guess.

Doesn't hurt to check, I suppose.

Onion Vanguard posted:

Okay, I have never jail-broken a phone before so I have no idea what I am doing. I am following the instructions on the OP however, I can do all of this on a Mac right? And this works for British iPhones right?

Yes, you can. I did the 7.1.1 jailbreak on both my iDevices on my MacBook. I left iTunes open the whole time *and* downloaded the IPSW separately (iTunes tries to backup everything otherwise and my hard drive doesn't have the room for my iPad)... worked fine.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

Is the repo for NoAnnoyance down or am I doing something wrong? When I try to install it (with the repo.pnre.co.vu already added) nothing happens for a while and then I get a timeout error.

Mr Hands Colon
May 7, 2009

requiescant in pace.

Bouchacha posted:

Is the repo for NoAnnoyance down or am I doing something wrong? When I try to install it (with the repo.pnre.co.vu already added) nothing happens for a while and then I get a timeout error.

Yes, it appears to be down. If you let Cydia run/update you will see this screen:

aarstar
Mar 7, 2004
The repo I used for that was repo.pnre.co

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Zigmidge posted:

Why? And why especially that circumstance?

To elaborate I was a perfect "should have installed openSSH" story. I really thought I had it installed but I didn't. I added a malformed repo to Cydia and that broke all sorts of poo poo. Cydia couldn't locate any packages or repos to install or edit and it would not display anything that was installed. I am not kidding when I say my jailbreak was broken and I was boned because the jailbreak window was closed for 7.0.4 so it was go to stock or lose my jailbreak tweaks.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

averox posted:

To elaborate I was a perfect "should have installed openSSH" story. I really thought I had it installed but I didn't. I added a malformed repo to Cydia and that broke all sorts of poo poo. Cydia couldn't locate any packages or repos to install or edit and it would not display anything that was installed. I am not kidding when I say my jailbreak was broken and I was boned because the jailbreak window was closed for 7.0.4 so it was go to stock or lose my jailbreak tweaks.

How would openSSH have helped? Couldn't you have also used something like iFunbox to access the phone?

ibntumart
Mar 18, 2007

Good, bad. I'm the one with the power of Shu, Heru, Amon, Zehuti, Aton, and Mehen.
College Slice
Y'all were right: even without a full wipe and restore, the update was enough to reset everything. Glad I read this thread, otherwise I'd be running around with the default passwords on both my devices.

In case anyone else gets a WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! message while changing their passwords and is as unfamiliar with UNIX as I am, all you need to do is type ssh-keygen -R (device's IP address here) and then perform the ssh root @ command again.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Bouchacha posted:

How would openSSH have helped? Couldn't you have also used something like iFunbox to access the phone?

Not unless you had the presence of mind to have installed afc2add before it all went wrong.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

bobfather posted:

Not unless you had the presence of mind to have installed afc2add before it all went wrong.

Correct. Either you have afc2add installed to access the root folder or openSSH to access the root folders. Without one of these two you are out of luck. I had neither installed when it all went down so while my installed jailbreak tweaks worked I was unable to use cydia anymore in any capacity.

Sh4
Feb 8, 2009
Been running 6.1.2 JB on my IP5 almost since I bought it and with IOS8 coming (and pangu) I thought I'd update to 7.1.2 in case I don't like IOS8 and it was pretty easy.

I was afraid to spend hour re downloading all my tweaks like Auxo, SBsettings and a lot more but IOS7 has same or better functionality out of the box so i had to install like 4 packages instead of 30+.

The only reason I jailbreak now is for f.lux and some visual tweaks like bolt, things changed man.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

averox posted:

Correct. Either you have afc2add installed to access the root folder or openSSH to access the root folders. Without one of these two you are out of luck. I had neither installed when it all went down so while my installed jailbreak tweaks worked I was unable to use cydia anymore in any capacity.

Oh. So I don't need go back to the nineties and do all this silly command line stuff. afc2add is usually the first thing I install after a JB. iFunBox is too useful to not have.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

afc2add doesn't seem to be compatible with the latest JB

openSSH + MobileTerminal + password change took me about 30 seconds to do so it ain't so bad.

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.
Doesn't seem or isn't? Because it's working for me just fine.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

Based on reddit posts it looks afc2add is incompatible with 7.1.x. The replacement bandied about is called "Apple File Conduit "2""

This discussion reminded me of this: http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/security/312161-public-charging-stations-could-steal-iphone-data

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money
Saurik purposefully blackballed afc2add in favor of afc2, mostly because the former was a bug ridden security mess.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

bobfather posted:

Saurik purposefully blackballed afc2add in favor of afc2, mostly because the former was a bug ridden security mess.

If I'm reading the package description correctly, the version by saurik only differs in that it tries to install in a more legal manner by downloading components directly from Apple, rather than repacking and redistributing.

Denim Dude
Feb 21, 2006

i didn't buy shit. i don't know what the fuck is going on.
Last time I used it Ifunbox didn't let you run terminal commands. Maybe that has changed but if not it might not be enough to just edit a config file or whatever, you might actually have to get in there and run some commands if a repo or app hosed your jailbreak. It's good to have SSH installed.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

eddiewalker posted:

If I'm reading the package description correctly, the version by saurik only differs in that it tries to install in a more legal manner by downloading components directly from Apple, rather than repacking and redistributing.

If you read up higher, it explains that afc2add could be set up to allow root file access without needing to 'trust' a computer. AFC 2 fixes that, among other issues.

AFC 2 is a lazy, still-insecure way to do some of what OpenSSH can do. But either is better than nothing in the case of a catastrophe.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

bobfather posted:

If you read up higher, it explains that afc2add could be set up to allow root file access without needing to 'trust' a computer. AFC 2 fixes that, among other issues.

AFC 2 is a lazy, still-insecure way to do some of what OpenSSH can do. But either is better than nothing in the case of a catastrophe.

So what, AFC2 needs a "trusted" computer to function? That seems handy.

Djimi
Jan 23, 2004

I like digital data
Two questions: previously in this thread I remember that with one or two apps and the right settings, you can disable the power-home combo buttons and make it so if you lost your phone, and had it locked nobody could shut it down or get it back into DFU mode, I want to that. Is it Activator & _______?

Also since the latest JB update last week my springprefs started restarting springboard every time I went to control center. Is there a better app that shows Wifi IP/Data IP and other useful information like springprefs? I've uninstalled some other tweaks so maybe if I clean the cache and start again, with better luck. I use it a lot when I'm on clients' networks and I want to see their network IP, quite handy. I'm on a 4S, 7.1.2 thanks.

Djimi fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jul 13, 2014

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Djimi posted:

Two questions: previously in this thread I remember that with one or two apps and the right settings, you can disable the power-home combo buttons and make it so if you lost your phone, and had it locked nobody could shut it down or get it back into DFU mode, I want to that. Is it Activator & _______?

Also since the latest JB update last week my springprefs started restarting springboard every time I went to control center. Is there a better app that shows Wifi IP/Data IP and other useful information like springprefs? I've uninstalled some other tweaks so maybe if I clean the cache and start again, with better luck. I use it a lot when I'm on clients' networks and I want to see their network IP, quite handy. I'm on a 4S, 7.1.2 thanks.

You can use Activator to make a long hold of the power button 'Do Nothing' instead, which will make stupid people unable to shut down your phone.

But there is no way to disable the power+home combo that would allow someone to boot into DFU mode.

goku chewbacca
Dec 14, 2002
Is there any way to modify my iPhone's behavior when its connected to my car's Bluetooth radio module? Every little ding, click, chime, swipe/unlock, and keyboard typing sound interrupts my car's stereo for about 5 seconds. Putting the physical mute switch on silent doesn't help, though I think it used to on iOS 6.

If I could disable every Bluetooth profile except for Hands-Free, it would work perfectly. I don't need it to play system sounds or music or even share the address book. I'd even give up Siri in the car.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

bobfather posted:

You can use Activator to make a long hold of the power button 'Do Nothing' instead, which will make stupid people unable to shut down your phone.

But there is no way to disable the power+home combo that would allow someone to boot into DFU mode.

I have the shutdown ability disabled, as well as the Airplane mode toggle disabled when at the lock screen. Forgot someone could boot into DFU mode.

I'm hoping the would-be thief will not know about DFU mode and would also not think of taking the SIM out. At least it could buy me more time.

Edit: Since the "shutdown" flipswitch toggle just calls up the shutdown dialog, the only way to shutdown (non-DFU) my phone even when it's unlocked is to log into terminal as root, locally or otherwise, and enter the "halt" command. But you could put it in Airplane Mode if it's unlocked.

Rick Rickshaw fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 14, 2014

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Rick Rickshaw posted:

I have the shutdown ability disabled, as well as the Airplane mode toggle disabled when at the lock screen. Forgot someone could boot into DFU mode.

I'm hoping the would-be thief will not know about DFU mode and would also not think of taking the SIM out. At least it could buy me more time.

Edit: Since the "shutdown" flipswitch toggle just calls up the shutdown dialog, the only way to shutdown (non-DFU) my phone even when it's unlocked is to log into terminal as root, locally or otherwise, and enter the "halt" command. But you could put it in Airplane Mode if it's unlocked.

Or stick the phone in a metal box and wait for the battery to drain.

There's really no point when it's so easy to defeat.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

GutBomb posted:

Or stick the phone in a metal box and wait for the battery to drain.

There's really no point when it's so easy to defeat.

Or throw it against a wall in frustration of not being able to shut it off. Or stab me while I stand there laughing at the thieves' inability to shut it off.

I guess I'm just trying to cover one of many possible scenarios in the hope that if the worst should happen, it'll be the scenario where the defenses I've implemented will allow me to recover the phone. Because god drat these things are expensive.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

Is Activator the only way to disable normal shutdown?

Funso Banjo
Dec 22, 2003

Is there any way to make facebook like it used to be, without the stupid need for the messenger app?

Don't use facebook, but my wife loves it and insists I let her install it on my iPad that she tinkers with. Bad enough she has one app on here, but gently caress it, all of a sudden her app needs a sister app too. I'm a bit OCD with wanting a fairly cleen device with only the things I want on it.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Funso Banjo posted:

Is there any way to make facebook like it used to be, without the stupid need for the messenger app?

Don't use facebook, but my wife loves it and insists I let her install it on my iPad that she tinkers with. Bad enough she has one app on here, but gently caress it, all of a sudden her app needs a sister app too. I'm a bit OCD with wanting a fairly cleen device with only the things I want on it.

Make a Facebook folder, stick them both in there, boom, consolidated to one icon. You could even call the folder something passive aggressive like "get your own ipad"

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

The messenger app is not mandatory by any means. You can still message people within the default app but I suppose maybe the interface is different (I ignore the nagging requests to install the messenger app)

mewse
May 2, 2006

Bouchacha posted:

The messenger app is not mandatory by any means. You can still message people within the default app but I suppose maybe the interface is different (I ignore the nagging requests to install the messenger app)

My mom showed me her ipad last weekend and the facebook app refused to let her view a new message, just popping the "Install Facebook Messenger!" nag no matter which way we tried to open it. Facebook is starting to get pretty scummy.

Bouchacha
Feb 7, 2006

Really weird, I have a JB ipad with 7.1.1 and facebook 12.1 (updated July 8th) and it's letting me view messages just fine. I do recall having to be persistent with dismissing the nagging screens, almost every time.

Funso Banjo
Dec 22, 2003

Right, turns out she doesn't need to use the messenger app, just if it isn't installed it nags her.

So I've just used a tweak to hide the icon for now. It's still annoying knowing it's on my ipad, but at least I can't see it.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

Funso Banjo posted:

Right, turns out she doesn't need to use the messenger app, just if it isn't installed it nags her.

So I've just used a tweak to hide the icon for now. It's still annoying knowing it's on my ipad, but at least I can't see it.

Your relationship with technology is borderline autistic.

Do you also have a dedicated gaming PC that has nothing installed on it but video drivers and Steam?

Rabite
Apr 13, 2002

Dynamiet Rab
Just thought id add, If you try to play Ingress with a jb'd phone it won't play properly.

However, if you add "TsProtector P" and block Ingress access to your system files with it, it should run properly.

Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.
Is there an easy way to downgrade from 7.1.2 to 7.1.1?

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Etrips posted:

Is there an easy way to downgrade from 7.1.2 to 7.1.1?

No. Why?

Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.

Going out of the country and wanted to rent a simcard, but on their webpage shows that they only support 7.1.1.

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GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Etrips posted:

Going out of the country and wanted to rent a simcard, but on their webpage shows that they only support 7.1.1.

I'm sure it will still work with 7.1.2

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