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Zombies are dumb. I'm glad the genre is starting to dwindle.
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You might say they are... brain dead  But yea, kinda agree with ya. If there's a good REASON for zombies (which rarely happens) it makes for a fun movie, but the actual "good" zombie flicks are few and far between.
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Jul 9, 2014 15:08
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I'm still holding out the hope that someone does a mini-series treatment of the interviews in WWZ, minus the Glorious Nippon chapters.
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Jul 9, 2014 16:06
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Dr_Amazing posted:The interviewer sees a frozen zombie for himself so it's not an unreliable thing. Sure, it's not unreliable that the zombies are frozen. What's unknown is why they freeze, or why they thaw, or how they keep moving afterwards. The book doesn't try to definitively answer those questions, which is good, since any reason he came up with would be stupid.
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Jul 9, 2014 17:24
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Are we seriously still talking about the validity of loving zombies?! Content: The lovely Statham film "Blitz" is about a cop killer in South London. Through out the whole film he uses a 9mm semi auto pistol to commit said killing. At the climax, Statham disarms the killer with liberal crowbar use, his colleague picks up the gun, ejects and reinserts the magazine, hands it back to Statham giving him the OK to execute the cop killer. Cue wide angle footage of the fatal shot and whats that? Statham is now holding a six shot revolver?! Like seriously? How the gently caress did they mess that up?
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Jul 9, 2014 17:37
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Silly Newbie posted:Sure, it's not unreliable that the zombies are frozen. What's unknown is why they freeze, or why they thaw, or how they keep moving afterwards. The book doesn't try to definitively answer those questions, which is good, since any reason he came up with would be stupid. Obviously the zombie virus makes a natural antifreeze like some small animals and microorganisms do. 
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Jul 9, 2014 18:48
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A read a book where a particle collider accidentally opens a rift to some void where Sumerian speaking demons lived and they came through to possess the dead... including animals and eventually insects. It had "priest who lost faith", "man desperately trying to get back to family", "disgraced scientist who started it all", " junkie prostitute with heart of gold", and "corrupt military rape gangs". I liked how the WWZ books did it better. Sometimes explaining everything makes it worse. Showing how it is without a definitive why makes a good story. Fake edit: the zombie lion was pretty cool.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:54
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The only thing that I really dislike about the World War Z/Survival Guide is that the author categorically states that all zombies are essentially identical. No zombie will ever act differently from the rest. If you make a barrier that the zombies can't climb, then you won't get one in a hundred managing to get over it and cause trouble. No zombie will ever partially recognise a former loved one, or randomly pick up an object. They will always walk at the same speed and fall for the same tricks. They will never do anything unexpected. It just makes them samey and boring. Not that I want them to make human ladders or anything. dpack_1 posted:The lovely Statham film "Blitz" is about a cop killer in South London. Through out the whole film he uses a 9mm semi auto pistol to commit said killing. Just put this movie on 15 minutes ago before opening this thread, spooky! Luckily I've already seen it and know the ending already, but I'll keep my eye out for gunny.
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Jul 9, 2014 21:02
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A little late, but the worst video game stuff shown in a movie (I know police procedural tv shows have it real loving bad) is in The Glass House. Kid is mashing away on a playstation controller for some off-road dune buggy racer, and it's obviously on "demo" mode and playing itself. The stepdad comes in and is all, "Okay, bed time," and he's like, "I'm almost to a save point"... What, are you going to get to a save point on the 4th lap? This is kind of before big bombastic "story" modes in racers. On the other hand, if poo poo heel stepdad doesn't know anything about games, maybe "i'm almost to a save point" is a great way to say, "you're not my real dad, fucker".
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Jul 9, 2014 23:45
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I really enjoyed Snowpiercer but there was something that bugged me more and more as the movie went on. It's a train, there is a single thoroughfare through the carriages, so with each carriage they went through I kept thinking how the schoolkids (who are towards the back of the train) would have to walk through the nightclub, the sauna, the restaurant, the loving marine lab, just to get to school every morning, As would everyone else, it would just be a constant flow of hundreds of people making their way back and forth along a narrow walkway all day long, interrupting everyone else and causing endless chaos. No, I didn't miss the point of the movie, this just bugged me.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:49
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Firstborn posted:A little late, but the worst video game stuff shown in a movie (I know police procedural tv shows have it real loving bad) is in The Glass House. Kid is mashing away on a playstation controller for some off-road dune buggy racer, and it's obviously on "demo" mode and playing itself. The stepdad comes in and is all, "Okay, bed time," and he's like, "I'm almost to a save point"... What, are you going to get to a save point on the 4th lap? This is kind of before big bombastic "story" modes in racers. Saw a commercial for Fruit Loops the other day that did the same thing. They had the wife playing Super Mario Bros, but instead of actually playing the game, it went into the demo (where Mario on the start screen runs to the right and the title box scrolls off the screen).
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Jul 10, 2014 04:07
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Squalitude posted:Not that I want them to make human ladders or anything.
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Jul 10, 2014 04:44
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shock.wav posted:I really enjoyed Snowpiercer but there was something that bugged me more and more as the movie went on. I was under the impression that all the train cars were individual eco systems, and just one handler or group went through the train cars to distribute necessities. Like the dude with the easter eggs would come with other things like water bottles and food. They'd just be covered carts so each train wouldn't know what the others were getting. Maybe I'm just adding justification filler V:)V
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Jul 10, 2014 05:13
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Firstborn posted:A little late, but the worst video game stuff shown in a movie (I know police procedural tv shows have it real loving bad) is in The Glass House. Kid is mashing away on a playstation controller for some off-road dune buggy racer, and it's obviously on "demo" mode and playing itself. The stepdad comes in and is all, "Okay, bed time," and he's like, "I'm almost to a save point"... What, are you going to get to a save point on the 4th lap? This is kind of before big bombastic "story" modes in racers. Scrubs did this with a really weird ad placement for 'Quake Wars'. At least, I'm assuming it was an ad placement. It was around the time the game came out, and I'm assuming the distributor had to allow them to use the footage, but the way they used it was unusual. JD and Turk had become obsessed with a nameless video game, and whenever they show the screen, it was footage from Quake Wars, which is a very non-arcade Battlefield-style FPS. But the dialogue used when talking about the game was always "Oh man I'm about to get the high score!" "I can't believe you got to level 5!!"
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Jul 10, 2014 05:17
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I really like the movie Outbreak, but something that has bothered me for a loooong time is that even though the virus comes from Africa, it does so on a capuccin monkey, which is an American species.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:27
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A couple of things in Snowpiercer: People communicate across language barriers using a translation device, but they always stop using it after a few exchanges and continue speaking in their native tongues with perfect understanding. I'm sure the director just didn't want to have every line of dialogue repeated in a different language, but it was off-putting. Also, Yona being clairvoyant is entirely irrelevant to the movie and serves only to slightly intensify the scene in which it is mentioned. Unless I'm missing something.
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Jul 11, 2014 04:08
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In zombie movies they tear people apart and eat them. How did Kelly from Dead Set become a zombie? They showed the zombies eating everyone on the set they could get to yet she's unmolested and in a mall at the end as a zombie too. So they didn't eat her? Why not?
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Jul 11, 2014 05:05
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Non Serviam posted:I really like the movie Outbreak, but something that has bothered me for a loooong time is that even though the virus comes from Africa, it does so on a capuccin monkey, which is an American species. Also no one who works in a lab would never slow down the centrifuge like that. Bothered me too.
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Jul 11, 2014 05:08
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Henchman of Santa posted:Also, Yona being clairvoyant is entirely irrelevant to the movie and serves only to slightly intensify the scene in which it is mentioned. Unless I'm missing something. I think it's meant to come into play at the end, when she opens up the floor in the engine car. She knew that Timmy was under the floor as a living piece of the engine.
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Jul 11, 2014 06:10
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Bippie Mishap posted:Also no one who works in a lab would never slow down the centrifuge like that. Bothered me too. But he was in a hurry! He had to get to the movies!!! Yea that part bugged the hell out of me as well. "SPINNING GLASS? HAH! NOT A PROBLEM FOR ME, SINCE I WORK IN A LAB AND KNOW ALL ABOUT BLOOD RELATED PATHOGENS!" It's like he just had a full blown retard moment.
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Jul 11, 2014 09:35
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Bippie Mishap posted:Also no one who works in a lab would never slow down the centrifuge like that. Bothered me too. Yeah, that's even worse. He didn't slow it down, he just opened it, while still moving, and shoved his hand inside. Still, I love the movie. I've been watching a bunch of infection-related movies, any suggestions? (already on queue The Crazies)
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Jul 11, 2014 11:24
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Henchman of Santa posted:A couple of things in Snowpiercer: You can actually hear the translated dialogue low in the audio in every scene it's used. It's meant to be watched with subtitles for the language(s) you don't understand, but I thought it was pretty neat how they kept the machine-translation instead of changing what language the actors speak.
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Jul 11, 2014 11:42
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Non Serviam posted:Yeah, that's even worse. He didn't slow it down, he just opened it, while still moving, and shoved his hand inside. Also, to tie this in to the World War Z discussion, I'm piss-sick of zombies so I expected to hate WWZ but I actually quite enjoyed it because I thought it was quite like Outbreak. Like they'd just taken a movie about an infectious disease and put zombies in it as a way to visualise the spread. 
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Jul 11, 2014 12:17
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Bippie Mishap posted:In zombie movies they tear people apart and eat them. That's a weird plot hole in almost every zombie-related thing. Are they actually eating people? There's millions of fully intact people with one bite on their arm. You'd think they'd get lucky more than once a movie and actually catch and eat some people. George Romero's the only one that seemed to occasionally remember the whole cannibalism angle. Pneub has a new favorite as of 15:52 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Jul 11, 2014 12:47
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I feel like that's largely dependent on effects budget, which makes sense, but yeah, I agree there should be more half-eaten zombies, and zombies just twitching and writhing on the ground as extra-chunky skeletons.
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Jul 11, 2014 13:58
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I'm a dumb nerd so I made a thing to express my issue with the time travel in Days of Future Past: It's 2014ish and there are Sentinels everywhere, everyone's hosed. They send Wolverine back and he tries to change poo poo, but it seems like the Sentinel timeline is set and staying on track in spite of his efforts. Then the climax happens and everything changes and we decisively begin the timeline where the Sentinels don't exist so in that version of 2014ish everything is okay and everyone's alive. Now once the second timeline is secure and it's not necessary to send Wolverine back anymore, he snaps back to the present day but in the Non-Sentinel Timeline, but he has all his memories from when there WERE Sentinels. But presumably he's been walking around doing things for the 50ish years in between, living life in the NonSent time, until That Day happens when he wakes up and suddenly those 50ish years of memories just vanish and he is almost literally retarded.
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Jul 11, 2014 14:10
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Pneub posted:That's a weird plot hole in almost every zombie-related thing. Are they actually eating people? There's millions of fully intact people with one bite on their arm. You'd think they'd get lucky more than once a movie and actually catch and eat some people. John Romero's the only one that seemed to occasionally remember the whole cannibalism angle. John Romero programmed Doom. You're thinking of George A Romero.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:21
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Pilchenstein posted:I haven't seen Outbreak in ages but isn't he just distracted? I'm sure he's looking at something else and just sticks his hand in not realising it's still spinning. Which is still dumb, because 90% of centrifuges won't let you open the lid when it's spinning. I mean, yeah, these little tiny ones will:  But I'm pretty sure he's using a larger, more "fancy" one that wouldn't let him.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:36
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DrBouvenstein posted:Which is still dumb, because 90% of centrifuges won't let you open the lid when it's spinning.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:42
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Buzkashi posted:I'm a dumb nerd so I made a thing to express my issue with the time travel in Days of Future Past: That sure is the plot of the movie. I'm reading two possible things from this: 1. You don't like that he keeps his original memories. That happening was mentioned before his consciousness was sent back in time. It wasn't just a random thing that happened. 2. You don't like that the original timeline was intact right up until the one big thing that changes the future because anything he does would change the future butterfly effect style. That's probably true, but every alternate future he was creating had one thing in common, super sentinels being created because of some event(s) occuring involving mutants and the government in 1973. So until Mystique is definitely not captured in any possible future timeline, there will always be super sentinels that destroy the world and there is always going to be a final send-Wolverine-back standoff assuming that the core cast is still alive in that timeline's eventual war.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:43
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Jedit posted:John Romero programmed Doom. You're thinking of George A Romero. Ha, damnit.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:52
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Jedit posted:John Romero programmed Doom. You're thinking of George A Romero. Can you prove they're not the same person? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together? I rest my case.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:57
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Buzkashi posted:I'm a dumb nerd so I made a thing to express my issue with the time travel in Days of Future Past: This reminds me of the end of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, where at the end they've reset the timeline so everything that was touched by the big-bad never happened. Universally everything is better, to the point that Shaggy, for example, is an award winning amateur chef, and his parents are proud of him, and Daphne is the most successful of her sisters (in some vague way). But this really just bums them out because these are not their lives.
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Jul 11, 2014 16:20
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May Contain Nuts posted:That sure is the plot of the movie. I'm not saying I didn't like anything, I still enjoyed the movie, I'm just saying that must be rough on his students who are mid-semester and suddenly their history teacher doesn't know history.
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Jul 11, 2014 16:35
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Pilchenstein posted:I haven't seen Outbreak in ages but isn't he just distracted? I'm sure he's looking at something else and just sticks his hand in not realising it's still spinning. You would have to be completely deaf not to hear a spinning centrifuge, not to mention you would feel it moving when you went to open it. There are no plausible excuses for anyone working in a lab to blindly open a running centrifuge and jam their hand into it.
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Jul 11, 2014 20:03
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Buzkashi posted:I'm not saying I didn't like anything, I still enjoyed the movie, I'm just saying that must be rough on his students who are mid-semester and suddenly their history teacher doesn't know history. I am sure by the next movie he will have begun to also "remember" his "newish" life as well.
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Jul 11, 2014 20:15
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Buzkashi posted:I'm not saying I didn't like anything, I still enjoyed the movie, I'm just saying that must be rough on his students who are mid-semester and suddenly their history teacher doesn't know history. Luckily for him, 99% of history is unchanged. Just the last 40-50 years that will probably be the same for the most part until the full sentinel uprising stuff. KoB has a new favorite as of 20:38 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Jul 11, 2014 20:35
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Bill Dungsroman posted:You would have to be completely deaf not to hear a spinning centrifuge, not to mention you would feel it moving when you went to open it. I had to look it up, it's amazing. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xayghr_outbreak-part-7_shortfilms
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Jul 11, 2014 21:32
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Lotish posted:This reminds me of the end of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, where at the end they've reset the timeline so everything that was touched by the big-bad never happened. Universally everything is better, to the point that Shaggy, for example, is an award winning amateur chef, and his parents are proud of him, and Daphne is the most successful of her sisters (in some vague way). But this really just bums them out because these are not their lives. This is what bugs me so much about Hot Tub Time Machine. These guys come back to a time that they've had no part of. They aren't the same people that their wives married. They didn't earn these lives. They basically just stole someone elses lives and are being horrible people.
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Jul 11, 2014 21:39
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Non Serviam posted:Yeah, that's even worse. He didn't slow it down, he just opened it, while still moving, and shoved his hand inside. Contagion was pretty solid. Leper Residue posted:This is what bugs me so much about Hot Tub Time Machine. These guys come back to a time that they've had no part of. They aren't the same people that their wives married. They didn't earn these lives. They basically just stole someone elses lives and are being horrible people. That's kind of the joke though, isn't it?
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