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Hey guys Tecmo Koei updated the Hyrule Warriors website. http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/zelda/index.html Fi from Skyward Sword is a playable character, and apparently Agitha from Twilight Princess? There's also Zant, and some new pale guy who I don't recognize (he might be a Skyward Sword villain, never played it). They also updated the character galleries with DLC costumes, looks like Link and Zelda get their Twilight Princess outfits, and some other outfits I don't immediately recognize.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:47
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5er posted:Some Three Kingdoms 2010 chat- I've made it to about ep.70. Lu Su's dead, Lu Xun's introduced, Dingjun and Hanzhong battles are concluded. Cao Cao is usually way more entertaining, regardless of Villain-mode or not. Everyone is a violent douchebag warlord but at least Cao Cao got style / is enjoying himself. I am finding the campaign in DW8 to be a bit dull, the scenarios feel poorly strung together and it doesn't feel like you have much of an effect on the outcome short of some of those really specific "alt-scenarios" you can unlock. Something more structured/free-form outside of ambition mode would have been nice. Like, all factions are around, there's a map, pick a character and follow history / don't, big events will happen with or without you but you might have an effect. But I guess that's more like Empires?
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Jul 10, 2014 20:10
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People are talking about how DW8's story doesn't really stack up to previous entries in the series and mentioning fun gameplay elements from earlier installments. Are there specific earlier games those people think would be fun to play for someone who's sucked the juices out of DW8 and wants more?
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Jul 10, 2014 21:31
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I think DW5 is best for the story mode. You pick a character and play up until the point they die in the story. Its got tons of exposition for every character and a lot of unique dialogue. You play the same levels over and over, but if your into DW you end up doing that anyway and probably dont care.
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Jul 10, 2014 23:06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IuPN0aCwA Trailer for SW4. Got posted today.
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Jul 10, 2014 23:15
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Question for those who've played SW4, is the Other (Yellow) side back in some of the battles? That's a weird little feature I didn't realize I missed until I was playing Gundam Reborn
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Jul 10, 2014 23:55
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I see Japan has its own versions of the peach garden oath and cao pi
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Jul 11, 2014 00:29
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Twelve by Pies posted:Hey guys Tecmo Koei updated the Hyrule Warriors website. I'm surprised they haven't added adult Midna since she basically already looked like a ridiculous Dynasty Warriors character.
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Jul 11, 2014 00:32
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Twelve by Pies posted:Hey guys Tecmo Koei updated the Hyrule Warriors website. So it looks like the power gloves are basically Hulk hands by way of Koei 
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Jul 11, 2014 00:41
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Calax posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IuPN0aCwA Looks like they finally switched over to the DW7/8 Musou bar system. Definitely looking forward to this.
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Jul 11, 2014 01:38
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Calax posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IuPN0aCwA I forgot how much I love Samurai Warrior's music.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:17
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I tried following you guys' advice for saving Zhou Yu, and I stayed in the base and didn't go outside it at all when that phase began, and still got the "Zhou Yu isn't injured, it's a trick!" message after like ten seconds.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:24
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Anonymous Robot posted:I tried following you guys' advice for saving Zhou Yu, and I stayed in the base and didn't go outside it at all when that phase began, and still got the "Zhou Yu isn't injured, it's a trick!" message after like ten seconds. Just play as Lu Su or, uh, whoever else is available in that stage. Seriously, it's not difficult, and it's much less headache-inducing.
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Jul 11, 2014 02:40
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Anonymous Robot posted:I tried following you guys' advice for saving Zhou Yu, and I stayed in the base and didn't go outside it at all when that phase began, and still got the "Zhou Yu isn't injured, it's a trick!" message after like ten seconds. I followed the guide on this page and it worked for me on the second try. http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7080371/1/ make sure to let everyone finish all their dialogue before you move to the next stage of the plan
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Jul 11, 2014 02:59
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Shinjobi posted:Guan Yu should count for three or four deaths, since holy poo poo Liu Bei goes absolutely bonkers and throws away benevolence as soon as he dies. Sun Quan never comes close to unraveling the same way, he just goes crazy. Yeah, and at least it's the fun, "time to step up" kind of crazy.
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Jul 11, 2014 03:58
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I finally got DW8XL for PS4. Which order should one do the story mode in?
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Jul 11, 2014 04:01
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oblomov posted:I finally got DW8XL for PS4. Which order should one do the story mode in? Wei>Wu>Shu>Jin>Lu Bu
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Jul 11, 2014 04:04
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Neo Rasa posted:I'm surprised they haven't added adult Midna since she basically already looked like a ridiculous Dynasty Warriors character. Reason #1: Adult Midna is lame. 
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Jul 11, 2014 04:18
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The best part about Sun Quan is that his voice actor makes him sound like a pulp novel action scientist.
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Jul 11, 2014 04:57
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GoatLord posted:Wei>Wu>Shu>Jin>Lu Bu Shu>Wu>Wei>Jin>Lu Bu Get the Benevolence out of the way early, and hopefully by the time you're finishing up Wei's story it'll start sounding like a real word again.
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Jul 11, 2014 05:13
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I sort of did it by where they chronologically all end. Wu starts earlier and ends earlier than the others, then Wei, then Shu, then Jin.
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Jul 11, 2014 05:14
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Anonymous Robot posted:I tried following you guys' advice for saving Zhou Yu, and I stayed in the base and didn't go outside it at all when that phase began, and still got the "Zhou Yu isn't injured, it's a trick!" message after like ten seconds.
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Jul 11, 2014 05:49
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FredMSloniker posted:If it's the mission I'm thinking of, there's kind of a gotcha. The base you're in when he gets wounded is not the base they want him to wait in. You want to book it to the one a bit to the north as soon as they ping it and wait there. There should even be a ping at the location where you are supposed to be when the order appears.
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Jul 11, 2014 06:01
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Ambivalent posted:I sort of did it by where they chronologically all end. Wu starts earlier and ends earlier than the others, then Wei, then Shu, then Jin. Er, no, Wei ends at Fan Castle, and Wu has a couple stages after that.
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Jul 11, 2014 06:59
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Both Wu and Shu's historical ending cutscenes will always crack me up given what happens right after their victory charge.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:09
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Allarion posted:Both Wu and Shu's historical ending cutscenes will always crack me up given what happens right after their victory charge. Speaking of endings, other folks have mentioned that RotTK kind of dribbles to an end, with all the interesting characters dead long before the book stops. How would you end the book, though (keeping in mind that you obviously don't have to be completely historical, but you want to maintain at least a semblance of accuracy)? Just end it on a tragic note with Zhuge Liang's death? Or...?
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Jul 11, 2014 07:22
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SW4 looks amazing and if it doesn't come to PC I may finally have a reason to want a PS4.
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Jul 11, 2014 07:25
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FredMSloniker posted:Heck, even Cao Cao isn't long for this world after his historical ending. And doesn't everything fall to hell not long after the Jin ending? I seem to remember reading that Romance of the Three Kingdoms ends on an 'and the land was united the end' note without mentioning that it lasted a super short time before the new rule collapsed again. Just 20 years after Wu fell a series of civil wars kicked off. Then barbarians invaded from the north, sacked the capital and co-capital, and drove the Jin into south China for a few decades. Eventually one of the Jin's generals retook the north and usurped the throne, ending the dynasty. Wait a minute, haven't I heard that one before? 
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Jul 11, 2014 08:08
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In Samurai Warriors 4, it looks like Musou attacks work like they do in DW 7/8? My only experience with SW is with Warriors Orochi 3.
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Jul 11, 2014 09:24
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Unlucky7 posted:In Samurai Warriors 4, it looks like Musou attacks work like they do in DW 7/8? My only experience with SW is with Warriors Orochi 3.
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Jul 11, 2014 09:33
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I'll never get rid of the instinct to just keep slamming the musou button to make sure that everything dies, and Koei changing the mechanic won't change that.
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Jul 11, 2014 09:34
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FredMSloniker posted:Just end it on a tragic note with Zhuge Liang's death? Or...?
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Jul 11, 2014 11:04
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oblomov posted:I finally got DW8XL for PS4. Which order should one do the story mode in? If you want it based on chronological order, IIRC it starts Shu>Wu>Wei>Lu Bu>Jin, but ends Lu Bu>Wei>Wu>Shu>Jin on historical routes. In terms of optimal happenings, I'd suggest Shu>Wu>Wei>Lu Bu>Jin then Hypotheticals in order of who you liked the best. -- That reminds me - I was playing 7 Empires as Meng Huo a couple of nights ago, used Musou 2 on the enemy ruler. They flipped out and a private hit them as they recovered and captured the Kingdom. This ever happen to anyone else? Trollhawke fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Jul 11, 2014 12:42
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Empires games are the only ones where you don't have to be the one to get the final hit in on the main enemy officer. I think there's actually an achievement for that, too, in one of them.
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Jul 11, 2014 15:16
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Chortles posted:It's pretty much what drat near everyone did as far as Three Kingdoms adaptations up until DW7, and in TK2010 Zhuge Liang's death was in the penultimate episode with the series finale concluding with Sima Yi's death. I didn't care for how TK2010 skipped over the Eunuchs, as well as paraphrasing that whole Yellow Turbans thing as "Well, there was some fighting, you know. Kinda sucked, here's Cao Cao."
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Jul 11, 2014 18:00
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It was a deliberate choice I'm sure though, since the lore is so familiar to audiences that presumably Gao Xixi (director) found little in the way of plot hooks to be had for the main characters in the Yellow Turbans period to justify spending time on it; The Ravages of Time also picks straight up with Dong Zhuo's presence in the capital with the eunuchs and Yellow Turbans only being mentioned in retrospect -- although Cao Cao's first scene is the aftermath of his "failed" pursuit of Dong Zhuo, where his decimated army is reconstituted with Yellow Turbans, hence the beginning of the Qing Province troops.
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Jul 11, 2014 18:22
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I can't imagine how much longer the series would be if they added in the Yellow Turban. It took like 60 episodes before the three kingdoms were actually established.
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Jul 12, 2014 11:07
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if you do the hypothetical stars and then the historical route for most factions they just sweep the dudes you saved under the rug but for the jin all of the guys are explicitly mentioned with how they stabbed you in the back. poor zhao  but goddamn everyone in this faction is so grossly unlikeable and all the cool dudes are dead so its just like "faceless man did thing to other faceless man". what a bad story 
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Jul 12, 2014 11:22
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Man, DWGR got boring real fast. Even by musou standards the "proper" way to do combat is ridiculously samey across every single suit. It's fun to blow up 2000 dudes with an Acguy or something but it's about as shallow as a puddle and I feel no incentive to bother unlocking much of anything simply because the only real varying traits between suits boil down to area of effect on c attacks and type of musou.
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Jul 12, 2014 12:16
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Kanos posted:Man, DWGR got boring real fast. Even by musou standards the "proper" way to do combat is ridiculously samey across every single suit. It's fun to blow up 2000 dudes with an Acguy or something but it's about as shallow as a puddle and I feel no incentive to bother unlocking much of anything simply because the only real varying traits between suits boil down to area of effect on c attacks and type of musou. i feel the same way, once you see all the moves and musous the game is done
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