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So, I'm itching to play a good driving game. There are a ton of options out there, and it's frankly overwhelming. Maybe someone can give me a suggestion. Here is what I'm looking for: I have a Fanatec Porsche Carrera wheel that I bought for GT5 that I want to use (shut up, it was what I could afford at the time  ).I don't have a ton of time for video games and I don't like to spend too much time on any one thing (I will probably play for a couple of weeks, then not go back for months), so MMO-style subscription fees are no bueno. I don't want to spend a fortune - I will probably get 100 hours at most out of a game I really like. If it costs more than a typical AAA game for everything I need to have fun, it's not worth it to me. I want to race online with goons, and generally chill out. I'm a horrible driver (as far as driving fast goes), and I want to get better at it. Realistic physics are good,  communities are not.I don't mind DLC if the base game is cheap, but having 90% of the content behind a paywall really puts me off. I'm kind of all over the place, so one day I may want to race on an oval and the next I may want to do a rally course. Help me out Goons, what should I play?
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To be honest it sounds like you would have the most fun with something like forza 4 on the xbox 360 or gran turismo 6 on ps3. They are easy to pick up and put back down. Your wheel works with either console, there is a large variety in each game, a huuuuge amount of cars and the physics are realistic enough that you'll be challenged if you've never really gotten into sim-racing. PC sim racing can be really frustrating at first because the cars are genuinely hard to drive (and arguably harder than those same cars would be to drive in real life because sim nerds have this attitude that difficult=realistic) If you're anything like me the forza/gt games will get you interested in something a bit more serious later and then when you try the serious PC sims they won't seem as frustrating and you'll know a lot of the tracks like the back of your hand from your time playing the console games. I do wish there were more "normal" cars in these sims though. I want to take a non-race trimmed gt86 or rx8 or 240sx out on old spa with realistic physics but I'm probably in the minority there. Spec miata in rfactor 2 is pretty good for that but it's pretty much the only "slow" car I can find. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 03:03
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I spent a lot of time on GT5 (a few hundred hours, at least). I'm really looking for something more realistic (physics-wise) that I can play on the PC. I don't mind a steep learning curve (I play Dwarf Fortress  ), I just know I probably won't put enough time into it to justify spending a lot, since I don't have as much time to game as I used to.
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Jul 5, 2014 03:13
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KillHour posted:I spent a lot of time on GT5 (a few hundred hours, at least). I'm really looking for something more realistic (physics-wise) that I can play on the PC. I don't mind a steep learning curve (I play Dwarf Fortress In that case rfactor2 is great and assetto corsa is great and beautiful.
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Jul 5, 2014 03:16
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rFactor2 is double the price, so Assetto Corsa wins. Thanks.
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Jul 5, 2014 03:25
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Jul 5, 2014 04:04
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After playing RF2 and AC for awhile, I kind of differ them between using Linux and Windows. AC is easier to get into and is more intuitive and user-friendly (and will most likely be even more so on release), works well, and is definitely good enough for the vast majority of people. RF2 requires a lot more tweaking under the hood, the interface is clunky and confusing, and the graphical settings are more finicky. Once you get everything set up to your liking though, it can't be beat. I definitely like AC and all, but I keep coming back to RF2 in the end.KillHour posted:rFactor2 is double the price, so Assetto Corsa wins. Thanks. Aren't they around the same price? RF2 is double if you buy the lifetime license, but the yearly one comes out to like $40, same as AC.
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Original_Z posted:After playing RF2 and AC for awhile, I kind of differ them between using Linux and Windows. AC is easier to get into and is more intuitive and user-friendly (and will most likely be even more so on release), works well, and is definitely good enough for the vast majority of people. RF2 requires a lot more tweaking under the hood, the interface is clunky and confusing, and the graphical settings are more finicky. Once you get everything set up to your liking though, it can't be beat. I definitely like AC and all, but I keep coming back to RF2 in the end. Unless I read it wrong, AC comes with a "lifetime" license for $40. I specifically wanted to avoid paying MMO-style fees.
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GutBomb posted:I do wish there were more "normal" cars in these sims though. I want to take a non-race trimmed gt86 or rx8 or 240sx out on old spa with realistic physics but I'm probably in the minority there. Spec miata in rfactor 2 is pretty good for that but it's pretty much the only "slow" car I can find. Amen, I use the E30 S1 most in AC and can hardly wait for the Miata mod to be released (street, not spec).
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Jul 5, 2014 09:07
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You might want to look at the original rFactor since it is pretty cheap ($27 through the official site), has no licence or subscription type nonsense, still has a very active online presence, and there's a staggeringly vast range of tracks and mods available. My gut feeling is that AC will be the next-gen title to go for but it will be a while yet before there are enough of the gold standard mods up and running to tempt the core simracing player base over.
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Jul 5, 2014 09:39
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Game stock car is another game worth a look, it has karts, some really fun open wheel cars and also has a bunch of modded content (seeing its basically rfactor its not too hard to get rfactor mods working, there is a fair few here http://m3challenge.webs.com/stockcar.html). I haven't played it much since AC came out but have certainly played it more than rfactor 2.
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Jul 5, 2014 14:49
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I went with AC. It's fun, but annoying that nearly all the servers are for the  cars. You can't get good if you can only drive McLarens.
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Jul 5, 2014 17:29
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tater_salad posted:Train sim people. Train sim people don't ignore real good sims though (as if there's many to choose from in their genre) for absolutely no reason at all. KillHour posted:I went with AC. It's fun, but annoying that nearly all the servers are for the I think you went with the right choice. AC is the PC sim to play right now until Project Cars comes out in November.
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Jul 5, 2014 17:50
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Are there any sims for PC where you can drive cheap lovely cars from the 80s/90s and possibly insert a supercar engine in them? That's my favourite part of Forza/GT.
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Jul 5, 2014 18:41
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Anyone know if the Thrustmaster T80 wheel and pedals are PC compatible? edit: Seems to be PlayStation only and the wheel axis and pedal axis isn't recognized by the computer so dammit, no driving for me this weekend. Read online it was PC & PS4 compatible but now after buying it I can only see sites saying otherwise. Obsidius fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Jul 5, 2014 19:06
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Nightblade posted:Are there any sims for PC where you can drive cheap lovely cars from the 80s/90s and possibly insert a supercar engine in them? Not really. The thing with Forza and Gran Turismo is that they are made by the only two studio's with the man power and resources to have gigantic car lists and a lot of features such as deep and complex car upgrading. The other game developers, especially the PC ones have to be pretty selective in the cars they add and rarely ever add upgrade features to their games, just a real good tuning feature. That said, take a look at Shift 2 but it honestly isn't that good.
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Jul 5, 2014 19:37
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That's a shame. Yeah, I've got Shift 2, but it's really really awful, imo.
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GutBomb posted:I do wish there were more "normal" cars in these sims though. I want to take a non-race trimmed gt86 or rx8 or 240sx out on old spa with realistic physics but I'm probably in the minority there. Spec miata in rfactor 2 is pretty good for that but it's pretty much the only "slow" car I can find. I'm with you on this one, sorta. I want the best simulation I can get as far as real tracks and driving dynamics go, but I want the vehicles to be "interesting" by which I mean more than just the top X performance cars from Y brands. I want slow but fun cars like the 86. I want fast cars that no one expects to be fast like the SHO, Syclone, Lightning, etc. I want stupid options like the Raptor, Hummer, Transit, etc. I want the ability to do insane things like the LS7 Aveo you could build in Forza 3 (which for some reason was removed in Forza 4, even though its literally a line in a SQLite database and takes up basically no space to make available) and then have a great physics engine accurately simulate me boiling the tires off it and slamming in to a wall at a million miles per hour. Crazy "unlimited performance" stuff like GT's Red Bull cars would also be cool. Basically if it's a real thing I want it to be as real as possible, but that doesn't mean everything needs to be real things. For some reason though the racing game world is content to work in two different silos, where stupid fun and realistic simulation of said stupidity rarely cross.
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The answer is probably iracing but, Are there good nascar Sims out there that are more recent than 11 years ago? I love iracing but having a family makes getting to scheduled races without a pause button for 45 min a rough go. Plus there's the price, I'd like to let my subscription lapse and try an offline sim but I have a feeling that iracing is the best
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Jul 6, 2014 00:48
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Nah, the recent Nascar games are not really even attempting sims. That said, given you can probably get last years for like, no money, it's probably worth you picking up any of the Eutechnyx developed ones and taking a look.
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Last year's was poo poo too I tries it for wii and it was buggy as poo poo. not sure of the 2011 versions of before were any better.
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Jul 6, 2014 11:49
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Selling my DFGT, if anyone is looking to get a wheel.
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Holy poo poo, Nissan 2000 GT-R and 240z released for rFactor 2. I've been waiting for more cars like this for a long time. I know what I'm doing in my spare time this week...
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Hi dudes, I've been playing some Race 07 with a Touring car mod and I enjoy it, but the dated feel is getting to me. I enjoyed Rfactor but hated how mods had variable AI and inconsistent....everything. Do goons recommend Assestto Corsa? I know I can read up on it, but is A.C aimed to be mod friendly like Rfactor (and I assume RF2?). If A.C is the 'ARMA' of Sim Racing at the minute let me know and i'll pick it up. I play with a controller and I love old shitters, touring cars (Especially British super touring!), not so much high end stuff like sports cars, open wheel. From what I can gather A.C is the most accessible out of the two [RF2]. Give me good ai or give me death motherfucker!
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simosimo posted:Hi dudes, I've been playing some Race 07 with a Touring car mod and I enjoy it, but the dated feel is getting to me. Well both sims are in a pre-release state so I wouldn't expect much. There's more modified content for rfactor2, but AC has a better presentation and a more forgiving (while remaining realistic) driving model. Personally I have both.
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Cool, actually here's a question. Do either offer good damage models / DNFs. I get a kick out of mechanical failures from myself or even the AI guys in a race. Also i'd love to see sand traps on tracks actually act like a TRAP, once you're in deep your screwed (the same for AI cars).
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Jul 8, 2014 14:56
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RF2 had much better AI than Assetto Corsa last time I checked.
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So, I couldn't find Tsukuba for rfactor2 so I decided to learn how to convert rfactor tracks to rfactor2. I'm not officially releasing this to the general public because I didn't ask for permission and don't want to have to update it or even put my name on it, but I wanted the track for myself and if you goons want it, here you go. http://gutbomb.net/Tsukuba.zip I'm learning a lot about the track editor and I'm hoping to actually make a track from scratch from Forza that I love and wish someone else had made, since I'm lazy, Maple Valley. I'll see how hard it is. GutBomb fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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GutBomb posted:So, I couldn't find Tsukuba for rfactor2 so I decided to learn how to convert rfactor tracks to rfactor2. I'm not officially releasing this to the general public because I didn't ask for permission and don't want to have to update it or even put my name on it, but I wanted the track for myself and if you goons want it, here you go. http://gutbomb.net/Tsukuba.zip You are awesome. I just knocked out a dozen laps in the Panoz, and it was great. How much time did you have to put into this to get it to this state? Just curious. Good luck with the track making, I haven't gotten up the ambition to try it at all yet.
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Nice track choice, what other good third party tracks do people like for RF2? Just bought it last night
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CaseFace McGee posted:You are awesome. I just knocked out a dozen laps in the Panoz, and it was great. How much time did you have to put into this to get it to this state? Just curious. I'm glad you like it! It is one of the few tracks I that I wanted that I couldn't find for rf2. I'm going to convert autumn ring and trial mountain (gran turismo tracks available for rf1) next probably. It took about an hour, after I got the steps down. I changed the road surface to RealRoad (the dynamic track evolution thing) and I changed some textures (the grass and the gravel trap) because the ones in the original were really lovely but for some reason the gravel is yellow and I can't figure out how to change it, the texture isn't yellow. Also I'm not satisfied with the overall lighting, everything looks a little too bright. Also I don't know enough about the sim engine to know if the AI is any good. As for downloads racedepartment is great for rf2 but they don't have anything for rf1. Rfactorcentral has a lot but after 3 downloads (not per day but total!) you have to pay. Does anyone know a better place to get rf1 tracks? GutBomb fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jul 9, 2014 |
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Jul 9, 2014 01:41
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GutBomb posted:I'm going to convert autumn ring and trial mountain (gran turismo tracks available for rf1) next probably. I need to learn the map making tools and make a Midfield raceway clone
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Regarding getting rf1 tracks, you can get a ton of them on race2play.com here: http://www.race2play.com/sim/show/3#tracks
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I think I overdid the sim racing. I've had a few days off from work so I've been going nuts and my thrustmaster tx said "no more" and let out a puff of really stinky white smoke and died  this is my second TX so be warned. I guess they aren't that resilient.
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GutBomb posted:I think I overdid the sim racing. I've had a few days off from work so I've been going nuts and my thrustmaster tx said "no more" and let out a puff of really stinky white smoke and died My pedals are acting up, but they didn't release any smoke that sucks, man. My CSR pedals aren't showing full pedal travel for the accelerator. With the pedal floored, it is only showing about 80% travel on my computer. The other pedals work fine, and it reads fine when the pedal is fully released. The first time I press the gas it works about normal, but once I ease into it the travel doesn't work right anymore. I haven't dug into it too much yet, just recalibrated rF2 to the new "max", but iRacing has to be recalibrated every single time I log in. I don't know if it just needs a good cleaning, or if a board is going bad, or what. My firmware is current, as are my drivers. Once I finally get a chance to tear into it, we'll see what happens.
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Yeah, my clubsports are starting to show abuse. The rotating bolt on the brake where the sensor is (which has that stupid little screw despite there not being any groove for it on the bolt) is having trouble staying in, and keeps trying to pop out, causing the brake pedal to "click". Any solutions that don't involve me buying V2s?
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Ringo Star Get posted:Yeah, my clubsports are starting to show abuse. The rotating bolt on the brake where the sensor is (which has that stupid little screw despite there not being any groove for it on the bolt) is having trouble staying in, and keeps trying to pop out, causing the brake pedal to "click". Hey did I sell you my extra set of clubsport pedals when Fanatec unintentionally sent me two? Im looking at my pedals, That stupid screw is the black one on the underside of the pedals? I dont think that bolt in the black sensor mount block is supposed to rotate. The black sensor block is supposed to rotate around the bolt. Lube will help with this. Try lubing that bolt, Ive been using the aerosol breakfree CLP on mine. You may have scratched the bolt with the screw, try pulling the bolt out rotating it, and putting it in backwards. This should put the contact point of the screw on the bolt in an unscratched position. I havent had that problem with my pedals yet, so this is all wild speculation. You must have more miles on yours. Edit: rereading your post, rotating it might not do anything. Try lube and tighting the screw SanitysEdge fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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I know a lot of you are not able to play Project CARS until it comes out, but are interested in the car and track list. This is the most up to date version of that content, which probably won't be added to until after release; European Circuits - Azure Circuit - Monaco - Besos - Circuit de Catalunya - Brands Hatch (laser scanned) - Cadwell Park - Donington Park - Florence - Mugello - Hockenheimring - Imola - Le Mans Circuit 24h - Le Mans Bugatti Circuit - Monza - Moravia - Brno - Nürburgring Nordschleife (Team Member+ during development) - Nurburgring GP (Senior+ during development) - Oschersleben - Oulton Park (laser scanned) - Silverstone - Snetterton - Spa Francorchamps - Zolder North American Circuits - California Raceway - Willow Springs - Lakeville Raceway - Sonoma Raceway - Monterey - Laguna Seca - Watkins Glen - Wisconsin Raceway - Road America Asian Circuits - Dubai Autodrome - Jin Ding - Zhuhai - Sakitto - Suzuka Oceania Circuits - Bathurst - Mount Panorama Kart Tracks - Belgian Forest Karting Circuit (Spa-Francorchamps Kart Circuit) - Chesterfield (fictional) - Glencairn (fictional) - Summerton (fictional) - Dubai Kartdrome Country Roads - California Highway (Team Member+ during development) - Azure Coast (Team Member+ during development) Planned/Confirmed Tracks - Ruapuna Speedway - Macau Historic Tracks - Bannochbrae (fictional historic GP track located in the scottish highlands) - Hockenheim (Pre 2002) - Rouen Les Essarts - Historic Milan - Monza (1967. GPL2.) - Historic Milan Oval - Silverstone 1975 - Solitude Rennstrecke - Spa Historic Oval Tracks - Concord - Charlotte Motor Speedway - Daytona International Speedway - Delaware - Dover - Henrico - Richmond - Indianapolis Speedway - Memphis - Bristol Cars: 2013 Alpine A450 LMP2 (currently only a livery) 2011 Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged 2011 Ariel Atom 500 V8 2011 2011 Ariel Atom Mugen 2013 Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3 2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus 2011 Audi R18 TDI LMP1 2012 BAC Mono 2012 BMW 1M Coupe 1978 BMW 320 Turbo Group 5 1981 BMW M1 Procar 1991 BMW M3 E30 Group A 2012 BMW M3 E92 GT2 2012 BMW M3 E92 GT4 2012 BMW Z4 GT3 1990 Caper Monterey Stock Car (fictional 1990 Stock Car) 2012 Caterham Classic 2012 Caterham SP 300/R 2011 Caterham Superlight R500 1981 Ford Capri Zakspeed Group 5 1972 Ford Escort RS1600 2009 Ford Focus RS 1967 Ford MK. IV 2013 Ford Mustang Boss 302R1 1997 Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA Trans-Am 1988 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth Group A 2011 Formula A (fictional 2011 Formula 1) 2011 Formula B (fictional GP2-type Formula Car) 2013 Formula C (fictional Formula 3/Atlantic type car) 2012 Formula Gulf FG1000 2011 Formula Rookie (fictional 2011 Formula Ford type car) 2013 Ginetta G40 Junior 2013 Ginetta G55 GT3 2011 Gumpert Apollo S 1969 Lotus 49 Cosworth V8 1972 Lotus 72D Cosworth 1977 Lotus 78 Cosworth 1985 Lotus 98T Renault Turbo 2013 Marek PM06A (fictional community designed LMP1) 1994 McLaren F1 2013 McLaren 12C 2013 McLaren 12C GT3 2014 McLaren P1 2012 Mercedes-AMG C-Klasse Coupé DTM 1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II DTM 1971 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 AMG "Rote Sau" 2013 Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3 2012 Mitsubishi Evo X FQ-400 2013 Oreca 03 LMP2 2012 Pagani Huayra 2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster 2012 Pagani Zonda R 2011 Palmer Jaguar JP LM 2011 Radical SR-3 RS 2011 Radical SR-8 RX 2013 Renault Clio IV RS Cup 2014 Renault Megane RS 2013 RUF CTR3 Clubsport 2013 RUF RGT-8 2014 RUF RGT-8 GT3(Fictional Racing Version) 2013 RWD Motorsports P30 LMP1 (fictional community designed LMP1) 2014 RWD Motorsports P20 LMP2 (fictional community designed LMP2) 1989 Sauber C9 Mercedes Group C 2011 SMS Shifter Kart 125cc 2011 SMS Shifter Kart 250cc Super Kart Also wanted to give you all an idea of what the texture quality can be like in this sim; 
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Really excited to bomb this next quarter of school because of Project CARS.
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How are the physics coming along with it? I thought I had heard reports of a less-realistic driving feel, but that was a while ago. I still can't believe I missed out on joining the beta version. I started driving the Spec Miata mod in rFactor 2, and it is a pretty darn fun car. It still wants to kill me every other lap, but I don't want to give it an easier tune because I know that will make me lazy and slow. E: ISCI, how resource-intensive is the game? The Science Goy fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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