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Senerio posted:Every archetype that's fun is weak, and every archetype that's strong is boring as hell or just no fun to play against. Elemental Heroes. 
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Masked Heroes are the best heroes.
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Jul 1, 2014 04:41
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Guys, Neo-spacian Elemental Heroes are clearly the only ones worth playing.
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Jul 1, 2014 06:27
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Destiny Heroes or bust.
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Jul 1, 2014 06:36
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Xoidanor posted:Guys, Neo-spacian Elemental Heroes are clearly the only ones worth playing. I really wish Neo-Spacians were actually playable.
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Jul 1, 2014 11:49
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All the hate for Judgment Dragon is absolutely justified. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g7bsPj4BGQ
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Jul 1, 2014 14:38
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Ep 11 of ARC-V was pretty great. Yuzu's a lost cause, but I really hope these LDS guys stick around cause they seem pretty cool, which surprised the hell out of me. Also, in their duel, they made a big deal out of Masumi using a card to fuse two monsters in her hand, but... I thought you could already do that. Like, that's what makes fusion bearable at all instead of just tedious. Did they change the rules for it somewhere down the line?
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Momomo posted:Ep 11 of ARC-V was pretty great. Yuzu's a lost cause, but I really hope these LDS guys stick around cause they seem pretty cool, which surprised the hell out of me. No, fusions basic mechanics are the same. It's probably just anime being anime.
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Jul 1, 2014 15:56
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The anime is trying to teach the audience how to play the game. Surprise reaction to new things is definitely better than Yuma going "I AM DUMB, HOW DOES THIS WORK!?"
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Jul 1, 2014 17:33
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Destiny Heroes or bust. His deck was one of the reasons why Aster/Exo was one of my fave characters in GX. The duel when he first busted out the Destiny Heroes (and proceeded to stomp Jaden) was also one of my favorite duels in any YGO series.
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Nyaa posted:The anime is trying to teach the audience how to play the game. Surprise reaction to new things is definitely better than Yuma going "I AM DUMB, HOW DOES THIS WORK!?" Or, alternatively: "Wait, gently caress it's been so long since this mechanic was relevant, how does it work?"
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Jul 1, 2014 22:55
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And to be fair, not every Fusion card lets you fuse from the hand.
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Jul 1, 2014 23:24
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From the Super starter: And suddenly I feel like I can run just one Round Table and Terraforming on my Noble Knight Deck
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Jul 2, 2014 07:00
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:From the Super starter: Yeah I was expecting to get the new Field/Starting rules with this. Hopefully we get the new End Phase/End of Turn rulings soon also. http://www.yugioh-card.com/japan/notice/revision/#date20140710 OCG ruling changes regarding the End Phase and how card effects that end in the End Phase will now be applied to the end of the turn. This affects a massive amount of cards, and will eventually be incorporated into our game. Goes into affect in the OCG on July 10th. Example: Effect Veiler now works against things like Kuribandit, Bujin Yamato and Justice of Prophecy
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Zackcat posted:Example: Effect Veiler now works against things like Kuribandit, Bujin Yamato and Justice of Prophecy About loving time, that ruling has been an eyesore for me ever since I first attempted to stop Yamato with Veiler all the way back in February. 
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Xoidanor posted:About loving time, that ruling has been an eyesore for me ever since I first attempted to stop Yamato with Veiler all the way back in February. Well it made sense before since Veiler stopped working in the End Phase and the other effects activated in the end phase, and how you can resolve things in your chosen order, but now with text changes to End of Turn for Veiler (and about 100 cards), it will be easier to understand and just a more straightforward thing.
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List is up No new Forbidden Limited: Goyo Guardian, Geargiagear Semilimited: Magician of Faith, Formula Synchron, Reinforcements of the Army (My Nobles right now  )No longer limited: Mirror Force, Dimensional Prison. Outside of Warriors getting a push and the return of Goyo, no important changes.
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Formula getting its collar loosened, wow. I guess they don't care about people summoning tons of Quasars. Man, Goyo seems like it'd be extra strength crazy in a format with Xyz. MJeff fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:no important changes. 
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Jul 3, 2014 23:19
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Nyaa posted:I like how we have come to a point where Mirror Force unbanned is consider an unimportant change. It's been a pretty bad card for years though. I am surprised it hasn't went to three long ago. Blackwings is crying tears of happiness, having back it's best synchro monster, but I really don't see it shaping much. The best decks in the game currently have mandatory effects that get around his effects (ie. Hands, Madolche) or just outright can't be killed in battle without a lot of support (ie. Bujins). I am curious to see how it does in today's YGO though. Edit: I have been playing a AF-The World Lock deck with Pendulums on DN. Here was my latest victim. 
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Jul 3, 2014 23:55
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Goyo is back to help push Cosmic Dragons/Yang Zing when they release in the TCG. They haven't done anything over in the OCG, so Konami wants to help give them a bigger push when we get DUEA over here.
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Dexie posted:Goyo is back to help push Cosmic Dragons/Yang Zing when they release in the TCG. They haven't done anything over in the OCG, so Konami wants to help give them a bigger push when we get DUEA over here. Right, right. Those dudes. We will see how they do with Goyo in tow.
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Jul 4, 2014 02:13
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Zackcat posted:It's been a pretty bad card for years though. I am surprised it hasn't went to three long ago. I don't don't know much about the way yugioh is now, other than the rules, so how is a card that at least seems to be very broken to me like mirror force bad?
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Obscil posted:I don't don't know much about the way yugioh is now, other than the rules, so how is a card that at least seems to be very broken to me like mirror force bad? More than bad, is obsolete now. There tons of option to revive monsters, lots of destruction negation effects and so very few decks are affected by Mirror Force
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Zackcat posted:Right, right. Those dudes. We will see how they do with Goyo in tow. It won't make a lick of a difference for them. Both Satellaknights and Shadolls have been walking right over them in the OCG and that comes down 2 two cards. Midrash and Shock Master. Both of those cards can put a complete stop to both their floating and enemy turn synchroing. Luckily Shock Master is banned in the TCG but that only means that shadolls will be even more dominant since that card is currently the only reason that Satellaknights can even beat Shadolls.
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I haven't touched Yu-gi-oh since the last DS game and I was wondering if the new 3DS game is salvageable, because I was considering picking it up with the US release. I don't really care about online play, but I really liked the fact that you can battle your own recipes and that there are a fairly large variety of premade AI decks to battle. Is the new game anything like this or is it irredeemable garbage like I heard some people say it is. Also, gently caress I have no clue what any of the archetypes you guys are mentioning are.
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A Meat posted:I haven't touched Yu-gi-oh since the last DS game and I was wondering if the new 3DS game is salvageable, because I was considering picking it up with the US release. I don't really care about online play, but I really liked the fact that you can battle your own recipes and that there are a fairly large variety of premade AI decks to battle. Is the new game anything like this or is it irredeemable garbage like I heard some people say it is. Well the European had its release recently and it was pretty horrible. They ripped out entire sections of content from the original Japanese release (the Card Database and Device modes), went from 40 playable characters to only 12, and finally like all YGO games, is a set or so behind. I don't know if they plan to complete the game for the US release, but it would seem to be very weird to do so, and completely piss off the European market in the process.
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Zackcat posted:Well the European had its release recently and it was pretty horrible. They ripped out entire sections of content from the original Japanese release (the Card Database and Device modes), went from 40 playable characters to only 12, and finally like all YGO games, is a set or so behind. More then a set. Try a year behind.
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Hey do you like to summon a shitload of Xyz and Fusion monsters in one turn? http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Radiant_Knight http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Foucault%27s_Spellstone_Cannon http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Heart_of_the_Underdog This combo + some HEROes + a bunch of Xyz monsters with a 'detach 2' cost like Castel or Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon or Silent Honor ARK + Miracle Fusion = 
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http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/pendulum/ Pendulum summon tutorial. I can see a lot of decks breaking the game with this 
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Pendulum summoning is pretty poo poo right now. I'm sure a year down the line when it has more support it'll be stronger, but right now it's just not worth it.
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Dexie posted:Pendulum summoning is pretty poo poo right now. I'm sure a year down the line when it has more support it'll be stronger, but right now it's just not worth it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBZtaOSidXg&t=206s
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Jul 12, 2014 06:34
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Yeah, Qlipoth's are pretty scary and Reiji's DD archetype is gonna be kinda crazy too, thanks to Hell Armageddon.
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Jul 12, 2014 06:48
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I haven't played the card game in a while, but it really just looks like you could shove two pendulum cards in your deck and instantly make it better. Is there really any drawback to them?
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Beyond Konami probably releasing an archetype a year or so later that hard counters it? (Note: I haven't played since... That pack that had a bunch of 'Cyber' monsters from GX in it).
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Momomo posted:I haven't played the card game in a while, but it really just looks like you could shove two pendulum cards in your deck and instantly make it better. Is there really any drawback to them? Most of them have lovely pendulum zone effects, terrible stats or terrible levels. Without a deck dedicated to them they simply don't work. We'll probably see some good generic pendulums in the future but right now Odd-eyes, Radiant Knight and Entermate Wolf are the only ones who are even slightly splashable.
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Momomo posted:I haven't played the card game in a while, but it really just looks like you could shove two pendulum cards in your deck and instantly make it better. Is there really any drawback to them? Deck that doesn't have a dedicated theme usually doesn't work as well as a focused themed deck (unless the theme itself sucked)... Except cookie cutter deck or really compatible hybrid. Nyaa fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Momomo posted:I haven't played the card game in a while, but it really just looks like you could shove two pendulum cards in your deck and instantly make it better. Is there really any drawback to them? The drawback is, if your opponent has a counter ready for you (Bottomless Trap Hole, Solemn Warning, Torrential Tribute, Darkfall, etc), and you go in with a big Pendulum play, you're going to be left wide open, and any smart opponent is going to know how to take advantage of that. And, like Xoidanar said, most of the Pendulum monsters we have right now are complete garbage.
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Oh hey, we're finally seeing Miwa fight! Oh...they just skipped most of the fight. How annoying. Oh he went and lost horribly. I think I've seen main characters in Bleach with more importance than this. I miss Asia Circuit.
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