Shares From Your Aunt is amazing.
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Jul 13, 2014 02:52
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Segmentation Fault posted:Shares From Your Aunt is amazing. Illegal immigrants are coming to America to cosplay! 
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Jul 13, 2014 03:08
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RFC2324 posted:Since when was the draft cancelled? Selective Service isn't the draft. If we had a draft the US Army wouldn't have to run ads talking about how badass shooting muslims is.
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Jul 13, 2014 03:13
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The likelihood of the draft coming back any time soon is also pretty slim. Drafted soldiers tend to suck as you get a bunch of people who have no desire to be there. It's been proven that a professional, all volunteer army just plain performs better. Something on the level of WW3 would need to break out for the draft to actually come back.
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Jul 13, 2014 03:24
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I don't think any politician would be stupid enough to call for a draft. That would be political suicide.
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Jul 13, 2014 03:41
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Peanut President posted:Selective Service isn't the draft. If we had a draft the US Army wouldn't have to run ads talking about how badass shooting muslims is. Selective service IS the draft, but the US army has always preferred volunteers. The laws are still in place, and any male over the age of 18 not signed up for it is a felon. It will just never get called again since it is only worth it if we are in a war and lack enough soldiers. Between our force multiplication technologies, and the fact that we do not lack for poor kids who can be tricked into signing up, this isn't going to happen in our lifetimes.
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Jul 13, 2014 04:03
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Angry Tiny Man posted:
Brown is a terrible chucklefuck but those kind of unsubstantiated witch hunts with a picture of a conceivably random person are also really stupid and distasteful.
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Jul 13, 2014 04:14
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Segmentation Fault posted:Shares From Your Aunt is amazing. Funraisers are cool. Everybody should raise their fun!
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Jul 13, 2014 04:25
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Jul 13, 2014 05:00
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Sorry little Timmy, your dad has a drug problem so you aren't allowed to eat.
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Jul 13, 2014 05:16
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One of my college friends just shared this:  Cancer from everything, even taking pills with cold water.
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Jul 13, 2014 05:20
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I'm fairly sure Dees cartoons cause more cancer than phone signals. I base this on the extra breathing I do while laughing.
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Jul 13, 2014 05:28
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Segmentation Fault posted:Shares From Your Aunt is amazing. So thousands of midgets and cannibals live in Mexico? Who knew...
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Jul 13, 2014 05:35
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RFC2324 posted:Selective service IS the draft, but the US army has always preferred volunteers. The laws are still in place, and any male over the age of 18 not signed up for it is a felon. But this brings us back to the main problem with the MRM. Instead of actually getting off their asses and making any sort of effort to get rid of laws or, in the very least, tweak them so that women might be called upon as well, they just want to bitch on reddit forums about how this is all somehow the fault of feminists.
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Jul 13, 2014 06:41
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When you combine slacktivism with awful opinions in an echo chamber, you get the most potent, toxic internet sludge imaginable.
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Jul 13, 2014 06:44
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into the void posted:But this brings us back to the main problem with the MRM. Instead of actually getting off their asses and making any sort of effort to get rid of laws or, in the very least, tweak them so that women might be called upon as well, they just want to bitch on reddit forums about how this is all somehow the fault of feminists. Well, yes, to some degree. MRA's are pretty much trapped in the victim mentality, because they cannot admit to personal fault.
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Jul 13, 2014 06:55
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I was a welfare kid for a couple of years growing up, after my parents divorced and my dad refused to support us and the courts wouldn't make child support mandatory. I couldn't imagine people thinking it's okay for me and my sister to starve just because my mom occasionally smoked pot or drank with her friends some weekends. gently caress those assholes.
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Jul 13, 2014 06:58
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Not to mention that in practice it costs far more to administer then money saved. This is ignoring the fact though that drug testing may be needed in a workplace depending in your responsibilities. Drug testing for welfare achieves....?
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Jul 13, 2014 07:13
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Boywhiz88 posted:I still don't understand how people could think FDR was a bad president. I think internment camps and the National Housing Act are very good reasons to say FDR wasn't a good president. He was also very insistent on U.S. control of Southeast Asia after WW2.
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Jul 13, 2014 07:35
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Plus drug testing for jobs is completely random and dependent on the employer or management. I've worked for places where everyone got together and smoked weed, places that didn't care if you did drugs in general as long as you didn't show up high, and places that did random drug tests to everyone. Eg clerical workers/call centre that were all nice 50 year old ladies for one company all got drug tested frequently while engineer at big software company got high at work with managers.
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Jul 13, 2014 07:45
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JoeyJoJoJr Shabadoo posted:Plus drug testing for jobs is completely random and dependent on the employer or management. I've worked for places where everyone got together and smoked weed, places that didn't care if you did drugs in general as long as you didn't show up high, and places that did random drug tests to everyone. Eg clerical workers/call centre that were all nice 50 year old ladies for one company all got drug tested frequently while engineer at big software company got high at work with managers. Every job I had except for my last one all drug tested, so I was surprised that it wasn't a mandatory everywhere. When my fiance applied at the same job in the same department I was in, they drug tested him and he's the sort who'll show up in the crisp button down shirt and dress slacks. The general consensus with my co-workers since the only other guy that got tested also looked as clean cut was that they only bothered testing the people they could presume would pass.
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Jul 13, 2014 10:02
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I love this argument because these conservatives/libertarians get mad at the government because their job invades their personal lives for no real reason. Unless you are working machinery or something, why does it matter if you smoke some pot?
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Jul 13, 2014 14:39
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Jul 13, 2014 14:49
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karl fungus posted:When you combine slacktivism with awful opinions in an echo chamber, you get the most potent, toxic internet sludge imaginable. Yeah, just think of GBS.
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Jul 13, 2014 14:55
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As a Norwegian I find it hilarious that american employers can just decide to drug test their workers.
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Jul 13, 2014 14:58
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Sandweed posted:As a Norwegian I find it hilarious that american employers can just decide to drug test their workers. Yeah, I'm Canadian and it's starting to be a thing here but not really, and it just seems so completely bizarre. What I don't understand is how the government drug testing welfare recipients wouldn't be, you know, an illegal search. I don't know much about the American legal system, but isn't there a constitutional amendment for that?
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Jul 13, 2014 15:13
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They're introducing it here (Victoria, Australia) on government construction jobs although there's also a bunch of union busting stuff too, so it's probably just the smokescreen for that.
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Jul 13, 2014 15:15
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Dogfish posted:What I don't understand is how the government drug testing welfare recipients wouldn't be, you know, an illegal search. I don't know much about the American legal system, but isn't there a constitutional amendment for that? It doesn't matter, they're poor people, they don't have rights. Seems like another expression of gently caress You Got Mine really, and misguided frustration at their own job doing the exact same invasion of privacy, possibly.
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Jul 13, 2014 15:15
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Dogfish posted:Yeah, I'm Canadian and it's starting to be a thing here but not really, and it just seems so completely bizarre. Well it would be voluntary. If you want the welfare check, you submit to the drug test. There are plenty of other reasons it's really dumb. In Florida, it ended up costing the state quite a bit of money and caught very few cases. But I'm sure none of that was because the governor owned the company that did the drug testing.
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Jul 13, 2014 15:17
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kazil posted:Well it would be voluntary. If you want the welfare check, you submit to the drug test. I can't imagine how that even works. I just feel like if that was implemented here we'd have a Charter challenge underway basically immediately because addiction is classified as a disability. In fact, I think Ontario was floating the idea back in the good ol' Mike Harris days and it basically just got slapped down at the consultation stage because it involved so many human rights violations. Are there no lawyers in Florida?!
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Jul 13, 2014 15:25
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Dogfish posted:I can't imagine how that even works. I just feel like if that was implemented here we'd have a Charter challenge underway basically immediately because addiction is classified as a disability. In fact, I think Ontario was floating the idea back in the good ol' Mike Harris days and it basically just got slapped down at the consultation stage because it involved so many human rights violations. Are there no lawyers in Florida?! Drugs are illegal. Therefore it is not a disability if you're addicted, you're a criminal, and criminals shouldn't get government help.
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Jul 13, 2014 15:33
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kazil posted:I love this argument because these conservatives/libertarians get mad at the government because their job invades their personal lives for no real reason. I got screenshots of this a while ago but never ended up posting it, but here's one idiots rationalizations for it.      tl;dr version is that anyone who spells it "marihuana" in English is an idiot with dumb opinions.
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Jul 13, 2014 15:34
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Soviet Commubot posted:I got screenshots of this a while ago but never ended up posting it, but here's one idiots rationalizations for it. My mom posted a "Hurray Let's Test Welfare Recipients!" thing (okay that's not what it actually said, but close enough) and I linked one of the Huff Post articles on why it's a retarded policy. I think she deleted the post because she's not a complete rear end in a top hat, just really ignorant about drugs. I think it might have been this one. I also recently got a job after being unemployed for a very long time and my estimation of the company before I started went WAAAAY up when I found out I wasn't going to be tested. Yeah, I might not be getting paid much, but the place has turned out to be pretty nice to work at. Bored has a new favorite as of 15:49 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Jul 13, 2014 15:46
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I was trying to tell my sister why all these sorts of enforcement procedures for welfare and the like are ultimately more expensive than just paying out to people and she just didn't care. She doesn't want to be paying for ~Those People~ that use welfare to get free money and buy drugs and Escalades and houses.
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Jul 13, 2014 17:42
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Including being in the military, I have worked for 5 different government organizations at both the state and federal level. Other than being in the military, I have never been drug tested.
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Jul 13, 2014 17:44
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SybilVimes posted:Lend-Lease, and the "Arsenal of Democracy" before it, was pulling US unemployment down already though, which like it or not was an affect of WW2. So if you're going to be technical, thank you Hitler for being such a crazy rear end in a top hat that it pulled us out of the depression!
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Jul 13, 2014 17:52
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I grew up in a really deprived area with a lot of alcoholics and drug addicts and yeah, gonna reiterate: many of these people have families and even if they are druggies, that is no excuse to let their kids go hungry.
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Jul 13, 2014 17:59
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Nibbles141 posted:They're introducing it here (Victoria, Australia) on government construction jobs although there's also a bunch of union busting stuff too, so it's probably just the smokescreen for that. As someone who works with heavy equipment sometimes, that's pretty much the one place I actually support drug testing. Someone typing poo poo on a computer who cares, but when other peoples' safety is on the line you don't gently caress around.
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Jul 13, 2014 18:18
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 Gerry is the fake Marine girl I've posted about before (currently unemployed and no education past high school). Tucker is her boyfriend (whom she calls her fiance, and claims they're engaged, but they've known each other less than a year and he refuses to even mark himself as in a relationship with her). She has one two-year old already that she can't afford to support on her own. Girl is thirsty as gently caress.
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Jul 13, 2014 18:25
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One of my teachers reposts one of those "drug test welfare queens" images like every 2-3 weeks. Every time people tell her why it's stupid (including former students who were receiving welfare/SNAP/WIC). Every time she's like "oh, that's a good point". But then she posts them again.
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