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I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
I'm a vegetarian because pretty much any meat but shrimp and some fish gently caress my body up something fierce. poo poo sucks.

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StimpsonJCat
Mar 20, 2008

Happy Happy Joy Joy
Posted absolutely unironically by a friend's husband who loves his conspiracies:



I was so close to replying, but he's not one to be bothered by "actual facts."

karl fungus
May 6, 2011

Baeume sind auch Freunde
Of all the lovely things Monsanto does, why do people focus on the GMO food? It's perfectly fine for you to eat, whereas they have really lovely business practices and gently caress around with farmers in developing countries.

I'm a botanist and the sheer amount of spirituality and wholesomeness and purity that people focus onto plants is loving hilarious to me.

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747
I still eat meat because as long as they're producing it anyway I might as well, but I think within a century meat farming will be phased out. Which is a good thing, IIRC it takes 50 lb of grain to produce one pound of beef so let's just distribute and eat the 50 lb of grain.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

karl fungus posted:

Of all the lovely things Monsanto does, why do people focus on the GMO food? It's perfectly fine for you to eat, whereas they have really lovely business practices and gently caress around with farmers in developing countries.

I'm a botanist and the sheer amount of spirituality and wholesomeness and purity that people focus onto plants is loving hilarious to me.

This is what bothers me about people talking about big pharma as well. Theres some really corrupt poo poo going on there and we should be more aware of what's going on but all those retarded image macros go so far into :tinfoil: that it makes it hard to take any of it seriously.

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.

karl fungus posted:

Of all the lovely things Monsanto does, why do people focus on the GMO food? It's perfectly fine for you to eat, whereas they have really lovely business practices and gently caress around with farmers in developing countries.
Because people are scared of things they don't understand. "THEY'RE TRYING TO PLAY GOD!!!111" has been something from (horror) scifi for a couple hundred years now

scorpiobean
Dec 22, 2004

I'll have one sugar coma drink, please.

StimpsonJCat posted:

Posted absolutely unironically by a friend's husband who loves his conspiracies:



I was so close to replying, but he's not one to be bothered by "actual facts."

This...this has to be a joke, right? There's no way this was made seriously. :catstare:

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
Maddox was kind of a shitlord but I liked his stance on how to deal with preachy vegetarians;

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Excels posted:

Maddox was kind of a shitlord but I liked his stance on how to deal with preachy vegetarians;



He was kind of the original ~edgy~ guy on the internet and got famous for it. I'd say his 9/11 thing about conspiracies being bullshit is also really solid.

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

scorpiobean posted:

This...this has to be a joke, right? There's no way this was made seriously. :catstare:

Holy poo poo, I didn't read that one closely before. :derp:

Well... in a way, he's right. Every organism with those chemicals in its body will, in fact, die. :v:

karl fungus
May 6, 2011

Baeume sind auch Freunde
So do koalas taste like cough drops?

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



karl fungus posted:

Of all the lovely things Monsanto does, why do people focus on the GMO food? It's perfectly fine for you to eat, whereas they have really lovely business practices and gently caress around with farmers in developing countries.

I'm a botanist and the sheer amount of spirituality and wholesomeness and purity that people focus onto plants is loving hilarious to me.

I guess it's the mentality of Big Business = EVIL! so anything Big Business does also has to be EVIL!. Granted this is going from my observations with the anti-GMO crowd around me being either old hippies or neo-hippies all waxing nostalgiac for some pre-industrial times where everyone was living in total harmony with nature and all united under some pagan matriarchal vegan paradise that never existed.

scorpiobean
Dec 22, 2004

I'll have one sugar coma drink, please.

razorrozar posted:

Holy poo poo, I didn't read that one closely before. :derp:

Well... in a way, he's right. Every organism with those chemicals in its body will, in fact, die. :v:

I choose to believe it's a parody image, except it sounds like it's getting shared in earnest. :( For those whose basic biology's a little rusty:



(replace thymine with uracil for RNA)


Bonus picture for GMO chat! The plant on the right is what corn used to look like before we started genetically modifying it! (through breeding)

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted

Tracula posted:

He was kind of the original ~edgy~ guy on the internet and got famous for it. I'd say his 9/11 thing about conspiracies being bullshit is also really solid.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

yeah, that's really good

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

razorrozar posted:

I still eat meat because as long as they're producing it anyway I might as well, but I think within a century meat farming will be phased out. Which is a good thing, IIRC it takes 50 lb of grain to produce one pound of beef so let's just distribute and eat the 50 lb of grain.

That's simply not true. The most efficient beef cattle require less than 10 lbs of non-human quality grain to gain a pound of meat. The least efficient are more like 15-20 pounds. Beef producers are always looking to breed more efficient animals, as it reduces the costs dramatically.

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.
Where do you people find all these idiots? I even had a GMO discussion on my Facebook frontpage with no idiots showing up!
The worst I got was this

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Khazar-khum posted:

That's simply not true. The most efficient beef cattle require less than 10 lbs of non-human quality grain to gain a pound of meat. The least efficient are more like 15-20 pounds. Beef producers are always looking to breed more efficient animals, as it reduces the costs dramatically.

Alright, fair enough. That's still ten or fifteen times as much food you put into it as you're trying to produce so I still think meat farming is a bad thing.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling




Wait, the FDA banned apricots? poo poo, I like those, I guess I'll have to give them up when I move to America. :smith:

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!

Moatman posted:

Where do you people find all these idiots? I even had a GMO discussion on my Facebook frontpage with no idiots showing up!
The worst I got was this


that's actually funny though.

also i liked the maddox article where he posted pictures of lovely children's drawings and reviewed them critically. the best bit was a fire truck where his ending statement was "i'd rather burn to death than be saved by this hairy piece of poo poo"

but of course his ego is always driving him to new levels of irony or whatever so now that mildly funny article is an entire loving website of its own.

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Moatman posted:

Where do you people find all these idiots? I even had a GMO discussion on my Facebook frontpage with no idiots showing up!

In my case, it's a combination of former co-workers from the call centers I've been at and a few classmates that seemed reasonable when we shared classes.



http://i.imgur.com/Yv9cQ0R.jpg possible :nws: for drawn nudity.

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

Tracula posted:

This crap always reminds me of a simple quote I've heard. "Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine."


I hope this person gets cancer and they take literally nothing but B17 to cure it. Lets see how well that works out.

I had to look up what this was referencing, since I'd never heard of Vitamin b17.

quote:

Since the early 1950s, both amygdalin and a modified form named laetrile or Vitamin B17 have been promoted as cancer cures. However, neither of these compounds nor any other derivatives are vitamins in any sense,[3] and studies have found them to be clinically ineffective in the treatment of cancer, as well as dangerously toxic.

M_Sinistrari posted:

Still lucking out so far with no shares about either Gaza or the Ukraine.







StimpsonJCat posted:

Posted absolutely unironically by a friend's husband who loves his conspiracies:



I was so close to replying, but he's not one to be bothered by "actual facts."

Between the two of these posts, I'm having a really hard time figuring out if whoever made the originals were creating parodies or not. The egg=cigarette one has to be a parody....right?

Bored has a new favorite as of 07:57 on Jul 20, 2014

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Bored posted:



Between the two of these posts, I'm having a really hard time figuring out if whoever made the originals were creating parodies or not. The egg=cigarette one has to be a parody....right?

I'd like to think so, but for how often eggs have been bounced around as healthy or pure toxins encased in a shell along with the person who shared this being a more crunchy granola than thou type, I'm thinking they were posting it totally serious.

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.
We've got Israelchat!
Chip's a Jewish guy I knew in high school. Dunno who the rest are



Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
#freepalestine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJs-mbwuFVU

moerketid
Jul 3, 2012

Re: Fake mac and cheese, I'm not a vegan but have made this because my boyfriend has some kind of weird childhood hangover hatred/phobia of cheese and I was hoping against hope for some kind of gateway drug.

It tasted passable, but nowhere like cheese. Still getting mad at vegans for trying to recreate food they miss is loving idiotic.

Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

Friend to Fishes. Just keep swimming.
Isn't there a huge problem with Israel illegally using land and natural resources that others use/need around them? I know there was something on some make up about Israel taking mud from someone among other things. Still, the whole situation is a giant clusterfuck. :/ Guess that's what we get for randomly carving a country out of the middle east and hoping for the best.

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots
Related to social media: I'm at a three day training for mental health folks in Long Island and two of my colleagues that I have known for a while do/did a lot of work with folks in Sandy Hook (because they live in Newtown). I asked them if they had ever come into contact with any conspiracy nuts about that and then had to explain to them that there are people that believe none of that happened and no one died. One of them (former military) got so angry the tears started flowing. The other one was just in dismay and the people around us couldn't believe what I was saying. I had to assure them that indeed there are people that believe that and everyone was pretty disgusted.

I hope one day someone who actually believes that was a false flag says something to one of these guys, who have been dealing with trauma and grief of the survivors and first responders, in person.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

razorrozar posted:

Alright, fair enough. That's still ten or fifteen times as much food you put into it as you're trying to produce so I still think meat farming is a bad thing.

That depends on how you're raising cattle. Feeding them corn is really inefficient and a problem but livestock are actually a good part of crop rotation. You let a field lie fallow for a year then you graze livestock on it. They eat the grass, poo poo all over everything, and then the poo poo makes the ground real good for growing stuff humans eat. It is true, however, that beef is extremely inefficient when compared to other meats. You can, for example, get a pound of chicken for only two pounds of feed, if memory serves, on top of eggs and stuff.

Humans are omnivores so it's pretty unlikely we'll quit eating meat, especially once we finally get around to realizing that monoculture farming is stupid.

Marley Wants More
Oct 22, 2005

woof

Strudel Man posted:

What the hell is it with goons and invoking Dunning-Kruger.

Whatever it is, it must be the same thing that makes them take every opportunity to use the phrase "cognitive dissonance"

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Aerofallosov posted:

Isn't there a huge problem with Israel illegally using land and natural resources that others use/need around them? I know there was something on some make up about Israel taking mud from someone among other things. Still, the whole situation is a giant clusterfuck. :/ Guess that's what we get for randomly carving a country out of the middle east and hoping for the best.

Yeah they are kind of pulling something simliar to what the US did to the Indians. Putting Settlements on all the good land and slowly forcing the them to only holding relatively making GBS threads land. Plus they control almost all other utilities and can cut them off when needed. Which they did when they invaded Gaza.

Also until the end that was actually a rather decent discussion for I/P. Until Chip went all anti-semantic on their asses. Which Pro-Israel people are want to do.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Ewww, who likes their own posts?

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug

razorrozar posted:

I still watch kiddie porn because as long as they're producing it anyway I might as well

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Sure, okay, that's totally a valid parallel and not overblown at all.

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug

razorrozar posted:

Sure, okay, that's totally a valid parallel and not overblown at all.

Yeah I forgot to specify that eating meat isn't at all similar to watching kiddie porn, just that it's the exact same justification train of thought.

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

newreply.php posted:

Yeah I forgot to specify that eating meat isn't at all similar to watching kiddie porn, just that it's the exact same justification train of thought.

Have actually heard that argument used for it too, along the lines of 'they should let admitted/convicted pedos use confiscated kiddie porn because that way they'll be able to sate their urges on material that's already done all the harm anyway'.

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug
same as how this:

Excels posted:

Maddox was kind of a shitlord but I liked his stance on how to deal with preachy vegetarians;



is about as clever as this:

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
To be fair I don't think Maddox is actually eating a chimp, a koala and a toucan whenever someone tells him they're a vegan. People like that truck driver literally exist and take pride in spewing more exhaust.

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

newreply.php posted:

Yeah I forgot to specify that eating meat isn't at all similar to watching kiddie porn, just that it's the exact same justification train of thought.

Alright, that's a fair point. I kinda knee-jerked, and I apologize.

My second thought is "what does it help to exclude myself, not enough people will ever do it to make a difference", but thinking a bit more shows that that exact line of thought is precisely why not enough people will exclude themselves. It's bystander syndrome.

If I'm going to be honest, I won't stop eating meat because A) I like it and B) I disagree that there is a moral imperative NOT to eat meat.

...both of which could also be used as justifications for child porn. :negative: Bad justifications, but justifications nonetheless.

newreply.php
Dec 24, 2009

Pillbug

razorrozar posted:

Alright, that's a fair point. I kinda knee-jerked, and I apologize.

My second thought is "what does it help to exclude myself, not enough people will ever do it to make a difference", but thinking a bit more shows that that exact line of thought is precisely why not enough people will exclude themselves. It's bystander syndrome.

If I'm going to be honest, I won't stop eating meat because A) I like it and B) I disagree that there is a moral imperative NOT to eat meat.

...both of which could also be used as justifications for child porn. :negative: Bad justifications, but justifications nonetheless.

I like meat a lot too, but I haven't eaten any in 16 (17? 18? gently caress if I even know) years. Chicken breast is awesome and healthy, but by now it's just become a habit that I don't make a fuss about. My good friends all know that I'm a vegetarian but most casual acquaintances have no idea until we go out for dinner and it comes up.

I don't think everyone should stop eating meat btw, if you're not actively counting macro/micronutrients it's the best way to get the necessary protein and iron in your diet. I DO very much support a local initiative called "Veggie Thursdays" that offers support and information to large organizations to offer a vegetarian alternative in their cafetarias at least once a week. Same for "Days without Meat", which replaces the traditional christian fast with 40 days of no meat. 10 million occasional vegetarians >>>>>>>>>> 10 thousand whiny straight-edge assholes.

I hope this seriouspost is enough to avoid the meatchat derail :ohdear:

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Is SA a social media platform? becaue i got some fuckin' idiots talkin' about eating meat like it's watching kiddie porn and i think it's pretty funny

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