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Thinking about jumping ship and getting this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lx.launcher8. Even though the tile padding is messed up, and I am not sure if there's live tiles for music and the photos app, it just seems like a better idea if I decided to switch. Also, not sure if the keyboard is wp8 styled or android (gross) or if the live tiles support non-english phone languages Stay Safe fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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So a quick update: 1. Making more progress on awful music. It's starting to become somewhat useable!  2. I actually started making updates to Awful forums viewer again. So expect some nice stuff soon on that. 3. The 1020 is nice, but the 1520 feels higher quality to me. That being said, the camera is a bit better. I also took the 520 out for a little bit. I don't know how anyone deals with it. It's not "bad", but there are so many better phones for not much more money. Dealing with the performance issues is a pain, but hopefully it will make my app better for all phones.
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"Not much more money" is relative, to be blunt about it, and what a middle class developer in Seattle and a middle class factory worker in, say, Vietnam, can afford are very different.
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Drastic Actions posted:I also took the 520 out for a little bit. I don't know how anyone deals with it. It's not "bad", but there are so many better phones for not much more money. Dealing with the performance issues is a pain, but hopefully it will make my app better for all phones. Yeah, 520 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I am a bit disappointed in the 630 sticking with 512MB of RAM, seems like a gig should probably be the new "entry level"
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Drastic Actions posted:
Just wanted to jump in this thread and say thanks for this. I've been using your app and any new features will be appreciated by at least me.
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Drastic Actions posted:2. I actually started making updates to Awful forums viewer again. So expect some nice stuff soon on that. Please continue on it! I'm comparing it to the "Awful" ipad app. What's nice about the ipad app is that it feels much quicker, mainly because it never leaves me at blank screens while it's loading data. Also for some reason it seems to download "unread thread counts" for my bookmarks much faster. Also: when I click on web links from Awful forums viewer, or click on "this post is hidden because the user is in your ignore list", they take me to a page which says "this content can't be viewed" or something like that.
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Doomsday Jesus posted:I'm so happy that we are getting BBM!
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:"Not much more money" is relative, to be blunt about it, and what a middle class developer in Seattle and a middle class factory worker in, say, Vietnam, can afford are very different. True. I am in a position of privilege to get basically any phone I want (and have, considering how many I do own). I meant more in a "if a comparable android phone comes out at or near that price, there will be little reason to get this one." I can't see many people choosing this one just because of Windows Phone. Yoyboy posted:Just wanted to jump in this thread and say thanks for this. I've been using your app and any new features will be appreciated by at least me. I was adding search at one point. Right now I have to actually get the basic features I kept forgetting about back in and working again. I rushed to get it out without finishing important parts of the app. Such as... ljw1004 posted:Please continue on it! I'm comparing it to the "Awful" ipad app. What's nice about the ipad app is that it feels much quicker, mainly because it never leaves me at blank screens while it's loading data. Also for some reason it seems to download "unread thread counts" for my bookmarks much faster. In the newest trunk builds, I'm actually keeping the thread viewmodel around so I can update threads as I need to. Now you won't have to stare at blank listviews while it is loading. I still need to fix it for refreshing forums, but it's getting there. (There is also a bug where the listview is continuing to fire for more data, even if you don't move on the list. It does not happen in my 8.1 solution, so I really need to fix that. It does not happen on the store build. Web links and links to in forums threads should work already. If they don't, then I need to push out a new build since it's working on my trunk stuff. "Hidden posts" never worked, since I never knew "ignore" was a feature  . I'll add it in ASAP.---- Here's some more screen grabs from Awful Music.    I gotta say, making a music app is pretty loving hard. I mean, I knew it was complex going in, but there are a lot more variables I did not think about when I started. Handling a tracklist between the background media player and Awful itself is so drat complex. Still, it's a good learning experience. Hopefully it won't be as awful as Xbox music. Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jul 20, 2014 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:Was this the big announcement hinted at a while ago? No idea, but it wouldn't surprise me. Overhype and under deliver!
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Combat Pretzel posted:Was this the big announcement hinted at a while ago? I think that was 3D touch & McLaren, which has been postponed and cancelled respectively. The guy that made that announcement has been let go also!
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Jul 20, 2014 06:47
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So basically: There is nothing big or new to get excited about.
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Jul 20, 2014 11:08
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Having been with win phone since Win phone 7, I have had an 820 which my fiancée now has and Im thinking of upgrading my 920 to a 930 and I just want to ask what the general feeling here of a 930 is?
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Having been with win phone since Win phone 7, I have had an 820 which my fiancée now has and Im thinking of upgrading my 920 to a 930 and I just want to ask what the general feeling here of a 930 is? For what it is worth it got a 3.5/5 at Cnet, with the biggest knock being the ecosystem. They raved about the hardware and performance.
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Jul 20, 2014 11:58
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I have an icon, the is version of the 930 and love it.
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Maneki Neko posted:Yeah, 520 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I am a bit disappointed in the 630 sticking with 512MB of RAM, seems like a gig should probably be the new "entry level" So I just got a 630 because of the sale at Cricket as an inbetween phone, and I'm actually not all that disappointed. I sent in the rebate form already so the phone is effectively free, but it does everything I want. It plays videos fine, does music just fine, a simple but working native podcasting app, and it's battery life is MUCH better than my last phone (SGS3 on Sprint). I was worried about the LCD screen because I remember them from forever ago but it's definitely serviceable and despite some cloudy blacks I can still read it for a while. It's just as snappy as my SGS3 for the things I actually do and the speaker is louder as well (important for using it as a podcasting radio in the car). The Nokia maps app is great thus far and it was much nicer to save offline maps than google maps was. The screen could be better but it's good enough to dissuade me from buying a new phone until a great deal comes along.
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So I haven't been able to find the option, but where did they bury the voicemail audio notification in WP8.1? I can't find it anywhere and it just replays my ringtone currently.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Having been with win phone since Win phone 7, I have had an 820 which my fiancée now has and Im thinking of upgrading my 920 to a 930 and I just want to ask what the general feeling here of a 930 is? I upgraded from a 920 to a 930 recently. The screen and camera are a good upgrade - the screen is bigger on a phone around the same size, OLED, but loses glance. The camera gets a lesser version of the zoom in functionality from the 1020. It feels a little lighter but has edges where the 920 had rounded edges on the sides to allow for the bigger screen. Other than that its the same deal, so if you're having issues with Xbox music or lack of apps that's still there. Basically its more 920, so if you like your 920 now its more of that, just with more res and more megapixels - nothing really ground-breaking.
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LifeSizePotato posted:A lot of my complaints about WP stem from my impression that nobody at MS actually uses the phone and thinks about how they'd improve anything. It seems like everything is created in a sealed office somewhere, and nobody is ever out with their phone saying "I wish it could do this useful thing" or "why does it do it like this, this is unintuitive and clunky" and then making actual changes happen. This is the scenario I believe, because I don't think anyone at MS ever looked at their phone and said "I wish I could not send more than 5 images to Facebook at a time, and I wish I had to sit and babysit the upload or lose the progress because it won't do it under the lock screen. In fact I wish this entire progress was more unintuitive and clunky!"
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Dead Man Posting posted:Thinking about jumping ship and getting this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lx.launcher8. Even though the tile padding is messed up, and I am not sure if there's live tiles for music and the photos app, it just seems like a better idea if I decided to switch. Keyboard would be Android but you can change keyboard at will. Also from what I can see there would be no live tiles at all.
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Krinos posted:I upgraded from a 920 to a 930 recently. The screen and camera are a good upgrade - the screen is bigger on a phone around the same size, OLED, but loses glance. The camera gets a lesser version of the zoom in functionality from the 1020. It feels a little lighter but has edges where the 920 had rounded edges on the sides to allow for the bigger screen. It is not just a 920. Bigger screen, better camera, better body design, quad core processor, and double the RAM.
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Maybe in the past week or so, my Lumia 520 has been randomly duplicating photos that I take with the camera. If I delete one, the other will delete as well. Nothing has changed on the phone. All I really do is text and listen to music. Short of a format, anything I can do to fix?
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I'm dogfooding my music app now. It's funny how much you take for advantage in a music app. For example, you don't get scrolling through a song with the volume player controls for free, you have to add the hooks in yourself. Sending those hooks back up the foreground app is pretty hard. There are tons of little elements that have to be thought of to make sure it actually works as expected. The main menu now shows your favorite albums as the background. If you don't have any favorites, it uses a random selection. I still have some big bugs to fix, but I should be hitting a point where I can release a beta. Before I do though, there are two requests I have. The first is I want some feedback on how to handle back and forward commands. In Xbox music (and most music apps I know of), if you hit the "previous" button a song, it will first start the song you were listening to again. If you push it again at that point, if it's within a certain time frame, it will actually go back to the previous song. My app right now always goes back to the last song, no matter what. What would you all prefer? Second, I need help making icons. I've been using the responsibility scallop everywhere as a placeholder, but I need to actually have real icons. I want to keep it SA-focused as a general theme, so maybe variations on other SA icons? I'm not sure. Basically I really want the responsibility scallop with headphones, and I will pay  for it.
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Drastic Actions posted:The first is I want some feedback on how to handle back and forward commands. In Xbox music (and most music apps I know of), if you hit the "previous" button a song, it will first start the song you were listening to again. If you push it again at that point, if it's within a certain time frame, it will actually go back to the previous song. My app right now always goes back to the last song, no matter what. What would you all prefer? In many of the apps I've used, it's always rewind song to beginning, then the previous song if pressed within that small time frame. I believe that's some sort of standard with many music-playing devices even dating back to cd-players and the first mp3 players. The scallop just looks so juvenile and gross. The frog icon many goons use is a decent choice, but you could always do the grenade logo with headphones attached?
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iLikeMidgets posted:Maybe in the past week or so, my Lumia 520 has been randomly duplicating photos that I take with the camera. If I delete one, the other will delete as well. Nothing has changed on the phone. All I really do is text and listen to music. My 920 used to do that until the latest update 'black' came out.
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Yeah, I'm changing the back function to rewind the song first, then go back. It's too annoying otherwise.Lblitzer posted:The scallop just looks so juvenile and gross. The frog icon many goons use is a decent choice, but you could always do the grenade logo with headphones attached? It really does stick out against the (not totally horrible) interface. So yeah, I do want to change it. As for the grenade; I like the idea of just riffing off the Xbox music logo with the Awful forums reader grenade in the middle. but i'm not sure. I want it to be linked to SA, but not look like an official SA sanctioned app. We already pushed the line with the forums app, but that is actually linked to SA being that it's a forums app. This is not, beyond the name of the other app. I'll just do it for now, I'm sick of looking at the scallop.
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Anyone using 8.1 with Ford Sync? If so, have you had problems with Bluetooth phone stuff? If I'm using Cortana on the phone, voice recognition is pretty good. If I use it through the car system, things seem like they have a much higher chance of getting garbled. As an example yesterday, "directions to sequim washington" became "hot erections to swim washington", which was so completely wrong as to be amusing and screenshot worthy.
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So unless someone has a fix for the 822 to work correctly with T-Mobile, I'm going to have to return this. This phone is nice but drat it sucks having to turn off data just to text. Was debating on the 635 but it makes some silly sacrifices.
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Maneki Neko posted:Anyone using 8.1 with Ford Sync? If so, have you had problems with Bluetooth phone stuff? If I'm using Cortana on the phone, voice recognition is pretty good. If I use it through the car system, things seem like they have a much higher chance of getting garbled. I'm using Sync with 8.1 and it works great. It seems to hear me better than 8.0. In my wife's Jetta, using whatever Volkswagen uses, Cortana can't understand anything I say. It doesn't even try to guess. "Sorry, I didn't catch that. Try again." If it helps, I'm using Ford Sync in a 2010 that hasn't been updated. I heard from some of my coworkers that 2012 Sync sucks at voice recognition.
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wookieepelt posted:I'm using Sync with 8.1 and it works great. It seems to hear me better than 8.0. In my wife's Jetta, using whatever Volkswagen uses, Cortana can't understand anything I say. It doesn't even try to guess. "Sorry, I didn't catch that. Try again." If it helps, I'm using Ford Sync in a 2010 that hasn't been updated. I heard from some of my coworkers that 2012 Sync sucks at voice recognition. Boo. Yeah, this is a 2013 with the MyFordTouch stuff, which is godawful. It took 2-3 Windows Phone 8.0 updates and 2-3 Sync updates to get stable, and then the 8.1 upgrade made it sad again. Maneki Neko fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Maneki Neko posted:Boo. Yeah, this is a 2013 with the MyFordTouch stuff, which is godawful. It took 2-3 Windows Phone 8.0 updates and 2-3 Sync updates to get stable, and then the 8.1 upgrade made it sad again. This is probably already known but I'll toss it out again for others. I've noticed in some cars there's a waiting period between when Cortana starts and when it passes through to you via the head unit. For example on my car I have to wait a good two seconds to hear the beep that means "NOW say your poo poo". If I say it right away then it only catches half since it starts actually listening after I've already started talking. Number two, try toggling the bluetooth advanced option where it connects in another totally mysterious way not explained.
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Maneki Neko posted:Anyone using 8.1 with Ford Sync? If so, have you had problems with Bluetooth phone stuff? If I'm using Cortana on the phone, voice recognition is pretty good. If I use it through the car system, things seem like they have a much higher chance of getting garbled. I am on my 920 using 8.0 with Ford SYNC and it is a loving nightmare. I am now worried about going to 8.1.
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Have you guys tried your phones in other cars by chance? I had a 2012 Focus and I loved MyFord Touch... when it actually worked. It broke at least once a day and was the ultimate reason I traded the car in, since even after several updates it still poo poo the bed regularly with no positive updates in sight per the dealerships. On my next car though the same phone (Lumia 920) worked flawlessly every time with the stock head unit. So basically I'm wondering how much of your issues are MyFord Touch. The best word I could use to describe MFT was inconsistent. I've heard it got better a few months after I ditched it, but maybe not that much better?
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Doomsday Jesus posted:It is not just a 920. Bigger screen, better camera, better body design, quad core processor, and double the RAM. That's pretty much what I said - the 930 is a 920 with better specs and a splash of 1020. Upgrading from a WP7 handset to the 920 got me hardware OIS and WP8 on top of the spec upgrades, both pretty good at the time. Since the 920 already has WP8.1 via the DP there's no real software changes (haven't really picked up on any Cyan specific stuff) and the CPU/RAM in the 920 already handled WP quite well so for me it feels like a newer 920 with a bigger, brighter screen and sharper camera.
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Drastic Actions posted:Yeah, I'm changing the back function to rewind the song first, then go back. It's too annoying otherwise. pretty sure you need permission from Lowtax to use the grenade, as well.
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I've had Bluetooth problems in a different ford as well. My 920 refused to connect to the Sync system in a 2013 Explorer, but my friends iPhone worked flawlessy.
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OldPueblo posted:This is probably already known but I'll toss it out again for others. I've noticed in some cars there's a waiting period between when Cortana starts and when it passes through to you via the head unit. For example on my car I have to wait a good two seconds to hear the beep that means "NOW say your poo poo". If I say it right away then it only catches half since it starts actually listening after I've already started talking. Number two, try toggling the bluetooth advanced option where it connects in another totally mysterious way not explained. Yeah, I'll give MYSTERIOUS OPTION B here a whirl and see how it works. Doomsday Jesus posted:I've had Bluetooth problems in a different ford as well. My 920 refused to connect to the Sync system in a 2013 Explorer, but my friends iPhone worked flawlessy. Yeah, 2013 explorer is what I've got. My wifes iPhone works fine, the 920 has gotten better as they've released 8.1 updates (the initial release wouldn't stay connected at all), right now the biggest annoyance is the garbled speech to text. Maneki Neko fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 16:40
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Just incase anyone wants a cheap 920, apparently SlickDeals has a deal on Unlocked Refurbs for $140.
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Okay quick employment check: Xylo and thestoreroom, you guys still around? Probably too personal but I'm super curious.
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LentThem posted:Okay quick employment check: Xylo and thestoreroom, you guys still around? Probably too personal but I'm super curious.
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