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Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.
Well when he was in the casino the bill sorter obviously went through the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42. Coincidence? I THINK NOT

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

RICKON WALNUTSBANE posted:

I sometimes watch Louie but don't follow the thread. Brief synopsis?

They had an episode this season involving the Pamela character where Louie got a kiss out of her really forcefully and dragged her around the room and poo poo. It was terrifying and clearly intended to be so, and is basically a huge dump on male entitlement, but it made some people too uncomfortable or they misunderstood it and thought it was advocating that poo poo, especially because in the later parts of the storyline they end up dating. Ambiguity is hard for people.

Also I don't want to sound smug but I know I'm going to but gently caress it: it was clear to anyone familiar with the basic tenets of television that True Detective was never ever going to actually go full supernatural. Another case where people really were ruined by LOST.

Okay now I've wrapped up everything that wasn't about The Leftovers y'all can go back to talking about The Leftovers

Mister Blueberry
Feb 17, 2010

Mike, Steve, what the hell
Holy poo poo, I really didn't meat to fire up this discussion, all I wanted to say that he's a better actor when he's speaking in his own scottish accent, he just delivers his lines better... His acting is fine, his accent is a bit jarring, but hey, who cares. He's a great actor, this episode was awesome etc.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Bown posted:

Also I don't want to sound smug but I know I'm going to but gently caress it: it was clear to anyone familiar with the basic tenets of television that True Detective was never ever going to actually go full supernatural. Another case where people really were ruined by LOST.

Yeah but it walked a thin line that was equally clearly intended to allow viewers to go either way. Arguing for one over the other is the equivalent to arguing that the Leafs are better than the Habs(:canada:); in the end you just choose which one you like better and are happy.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo

Mister Blueberry posted:

Holy poo poo, I really didn't meat to fire up this discussion, all I wanted to say that he's a better actor when he's speaking in his own scottish accent, he just delivers his lines better... His acting is fine, his accent is a bit jarring, but hey, who cares. He's a great actor, this episode was awesome etc.

He's English (Are you confusing him with David Tennant, another Doctor Who?)

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

That was one of favourite episodes of television in a long time. It was on the level of Breaking Bad, early LOST good. I feel we are in a drought of good tv and at least we have the Leftovers to hold us over until TD season 2 or whatever. The whole ep was a big set up for the last golden ten minutes. So good!

EDIT \/\/\/\/ Bitching about bitching is bitching.

Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jul 17, 2014

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Please shut the gently caress up about accents. The derail about other tv shows' equally awful threads has been the best part of this thread so far.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Can we discuss whether the GR that were hanging out in front of the church were actually trying to recruit Matt, or were they scoping out their potential new digs?

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Max posted:

Can we discuss whether the GR that were hanging out in front of the church were actually trying to recruit Matt, or were they scoping out their potential new digs?

I figured it was to recruit him knowing that he will lose the church soon and perhaps be more susceptible to joining GR at that time.

It's so sad when you realize that the reason Matt missed the foreclosure deadline and lost his church to the GR is because he stopped to check on the GR member who got rocked in the head and got rocked himself into a 3-day coma.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
I wonder if he even would have been able to get the church, or if the banker guy was just putting him off because he knew there was no way Matt could come up with the money.

I'm not a banking/real estate expert but I don't think you can just walk into a bank with a bloody envelope full of money and that is the financial equivalent of the GR's lawyer-drafted, bank-approved title transfer paperwork.

messagemode1
Jun 9, 2006

Really liked the last episode as opposed to the second.

I wasn't thrown off by the priest's accent but I did notice he spoke weirdly.

The thing that took me out of the episode the most was the sort of cliche dream-immolation and his sister's uneven acting when he asked her for money.
At several points in that scene I was taken out of it by her capital A Acting.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Max posted:

Can we discuss whether the GR that were hanging out in front of the church were actually trying to recruit Matt, or were they scoping out their potential new digs?

I think the idea was that we were led to believe in the beginning that they were watching him but, as it turns out, they were just watching the church. That makes it more of a "gotcha" moment.

Unlike the GR who watch Liv Tyler, the GR who are watching the church are not shown to be watching Matt anywhere else, as far as I remember.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

fullroundaction posted:

I wonder if he even would have been able to get the church, or if the banker guy was just putting him off because he knew there was no way Matt could come up with the money.

I'm not a banking/real estate expert but I don't think you can just walk into a bank with a bloody envelope full of money and that is the financial equivalent of the GR's lawyer-drafted, bank-approved title transfer paperwork.

I got the feeling he would have let him do it, if it was at all possible. He was trying to get a hold of him for a while, Matt was just ducking his calls.

Like, that would have been much more possible had he just addressed the phone calls when he first started getting them.

messagemode1 posted:

The thing that took me out of the episode the most was the sort of cliche dream-immolation and his sister's uneven acting when he asked her for money.
At several points in that scene I was taken out of it by her capital A Acting.

She was kind of putting it on, but it really hit home when he dropped the "your husband was cheating on you" bomb.

tadashi posted:

I think the idea was that we were led to believe in the beginning that they were watching him but, as it turns out, they were just watching the church. That makes it more of a "gotcha" moment.

Unlike the GR who watch Liv Tyler, the GR who are watching the church are not shown to be watching Matt anywhere else, as far as I remember.

I got that.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

Max posted:

I got the feeling he would have let him do it, if it was at all possible. He was trying to get a hold of him for a while, Matt was just ducking his calls.

Yeah the more I think about it there was probably a hard date that Matt had to make a counter offer. Even though the bank repossessed it he probably has some sort of legally-mandated time period to get it back or whatever. Someone who knows what they're talking about please feel free to expound.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

I was trying to think about what the "Two Boats" were in the episode. The bank guy trying to call him for weeks has to be one, and his sister telling him she'll give him the money if he just stops his investigations must have been the other one.

I don't know about the helicopter.

IMB
Jan 8, 2005
How does an asshole like Bob get such a great kitchen?

Max posted:

I was trying to think about what the "Two Boats" were in the episode. The bank guy trying to call him for weeks has to be one, and his sister telling him she'll give him the money if he just stops his investigations must have been the other one.

I don't know about the helicopter.

Maybe he took the helicopter.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

IMB posted:

Maybe he took the helicopter.

Then some rear end in a top hat bird got caught in the engine and "OH NO! I'M IN A COMA!"

imperialparadox
Apr 17, 2012

Don't tell me no one has told the girl she isn't exactly human!

thathonkey posted:

I figured it was to recruit him knowing that he will lose the church soon and perhaps be more susceptible to joining GR at that time.

It's so sad when you realize that the reason Matt missed the foreclosure deadline and lost his church to the GR is because he stopped to check on the GR member who got rocked in the head and got rocked himself into a 3-day coma.

That was some nice irony there, I like how at the end of the episode he gave them the death stare - that whole situation was the kind of thing that could make a man snap (I don't think he is though).


messagemode1 posted:

The thing that took me out of the episode the most was the sort of cliche dream-immolation and his sister's uneven acting when he asked her for money.

Were we supposed to take from the immolation scene that he had something to do with the fire/felt guilt over it? I wasn't sure what they were trying to say there.

Knives and Hot Dust
Feb 21, 2010

metal gear??!?

Max posted:

I was trying to think about what the "Two Boats" were in the episode. The bank guy trying to call him for weeks has to be one, and his sister telling him she'll give him the money if he just stops his investigations must have been the other one.

I don't know about the helicopter.

Somebody brought up that he has 160k with no burden to continue running the church now. Maybe that is the helicopter.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Can someone link that season trailer people were talking about after the last episode?

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.

Boris Galerkin posted:

Can someone link that season trailer people were talking about after the last episode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs_Zahx334E

Pretty nuts

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Christopher Eccleston piloting his new helicopter over the GR.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



Oh wow poo poo is going to go down. This looks good.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Knives and Hot Dust posted:

Somebody brought up that he has 160k with no burden to continue running the church now. Maybe that is the helicopter.

For another character, like one of the teenagers, that makes sense. But for his character, I doubt he cares that much about personal wealth.

Like, he wasn't burdened with it to begin with. It was foreclosed and he was staying there only because the bank let him. Dude could have walked whenever.

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005

Max posted:

For another character, like one of the teenagers, that makes sense. But for his character, I doubt he cares that much about personal wealth.

Like, he wasn't burdened with it to begin with. It was foreclosed and he was staying there only because the bank let him. Dude could have walked whenever.
True, but it's not just the money - he also emerged from his ordeal with renewed faith and purpose. He'll be able to continue ministering without the building anyway, and I'm curious to see what he'll do re: his new feud with the GR, seeing as how a war chest for doing "God's work" just materialized.

warcrimes
Jul 6, 2013

I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life. :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:

imperialparadox posted:

That was some nice irony there, I like how at the end of the episode he gave them the death stare - that whole situation was the kind of thing that could make a man snap (I don't think he is though).

On second viewing, it's pretty clear from his look there are going to be consequences.


imperialparadox posted:

Were we supposed to take from the immolation scene that he had something to do with the fire/felt guilt over it? I wasn't sure what they were trying to say there.

I figure that, accidentally or purposely, he's the one that set the fire. That seems too obvious, though.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Haha all the top reviews on imdb are like one star. So many people still mad about Lost.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Haha all the top reviews on imdb are like one star. So many people still mad about Lost.

Blaming Lost for everything is still a pretty popular choice, as seen in this thread.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Haha all the top reviews on imdb are like one star. So many people still mad about Lost.

My girlfriend has never watched LOST but would more than likely give this show a one-star review. I guess for people who really like this show it comes with a built in crutch against criticism.

I think it's an okay drama with potential to be good or bad.

bbf2
Nov 22, 2007

"The White Shadow"
Matt certainly has his flaws but the fact that he was like the only person who stood up for and helped the GR and they repaid him by royally screwing him over (which was only made possible because he was trying to save the life of one of their members) makes them incredibly unsympathetic.

That in and of itself may be intentional and not a flaw of the show and we may be supposed to hate the GR for this action, but based on the way that the Judging Amy/Liv Tyler interactions have been going so far I'm not sure that this is the case. I'll give the showrunners the benefit of the doubt as of now, but if they continue on a path where we're supposed to root for the GR and Judging Amy to succeed in their goals and recruit Liv Tyler to their cause and whatnot then they have seriously misjudged things.

Lucky Raccoon
Aug 17, 2006

Let's put on our classics and have a little dance shall we?
I don't think there's an argument against the show trying to paint Patti as a bad dude and the GR as a menace. The previews make it seem like they might paint the town's reaction to them as bad stuff as well. I'm down for everyone being kind of a shitheel tbh.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I wasn't sold on this show based on the first two episodes, but the third one definitely won me over. It has a lot of promise, and I'm honestly surprised that people have such an issue with the premise. Even ignoring the theoretical implications of such an event, it strikes me as being a largely allegorical story - unlike Lost, I'd actually qualify the absence of any explanation as one of its strengths, because one of the major points of the show seems to be people are angry because there are no explanations.

Which is pretty apt all things considered.

Siid
Oct 18, 2012


I hope that we can get another episode as good at the third. I am somewhat doubtful though.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Yeah basically everyone I talk to was struggling after episode 2, and this episode turned them around. I love how Lost like the intertwining story feels.

Also, of course this is the worst thread and everyone posting in it is poo poo (including myself).

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

The Dave posted:

Also, of course this is the worst thread and everyone posting in it is poo poo (including myself).

It's also a summer escape for the True Detective thread, doubling down on poo poo!

Edit: The 2% are in Carcosa

Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jul 19, 2014

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

bbf2 posted:

Matt certainly has his flaws but the fact that he was like the only person who stood up for and helped the GR and they repaid him by royally screwing him over (which was only made possible because he was trying to save the life of one of their members) makes them incredibly unsympathetic.

How could they know he had the money? Only he knew he could afford to buy the church. It's not like they intentionally screwed the guy over, poo poo just happened.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
The GR seem to be pretty well funded. They have homes (a whole subdivision?), minivans, and now a church. Theyve showed how Wayne's cult of hugs earns money but i assume GR money comes from its members who figure they dont need it any more now that they have joined a weird rear end cult.

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jul 20, 2014

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I get the feeling that the Guilty Remnant like it when people attack them. It confirms that humanity is violent and terrible. Moreover non-violent resistence often gets results because its hard to fight someone who doesn't fight back without feeling wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the extras who have attacked GR members already don't show up in white robes later on.

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.

I'm surprised any of those are still made here to film this part.

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Tomahawk
Aug 13, 2003

HE KNOWS
Baby Jesus got raptured

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