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Any recommendations for using 40k Chapter Tactics to represent the Chaos Legions before their turns to Chaos? Aside from using their Horus Heresy rules, I mean. Examples I've seen so far have been the Carcharodons CT for World Eaters, and Salamanders CT to represent Emperor's Children due to characters getting a master crafted weapon.
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Most assault-heavy factions aren't known for their rock-solid shooting either. It's often buckets o' dice (Orks) or 'bolt pistols' with a few low-strength blasts (Tyranids) for the most part. Not saying there isn't quality shooting in those factions because there is, it's just not spammable like 9pt BS3 Pulse Rifles.
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Jul 21, 2014 06:01
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Alpha Legion: Exorcists (lol) Iron Warriors: Minotaurs Word Bearers: Executioners Night Lords: Raptors? Death Guard: Red Scorpions Sons of Horus: Star Phantoms Thousand Sons: Mantis Warriors
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Jul 21, 2014 06:06
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Alpha Legion: Exorcists (lol) Good call. Now I know the perfect way to start collecting Alpha Legion! I'll walk up to Space Marine players and let them know some of their models were actually MY Alpha Legion models that infiltrated their army and I would like them back.
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Jul 21, 2014 06:21
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Had a real fun time playing 40k with my little bro , my nurgle csm against his Crimson Fists. Highlights included his sterngaurd wiping 4 out of my 6 nurgle bikers , and Typhus destroying an entire Terminator Squad in CC.
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Jul 21, 2014 06:23
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HiveCommander posted:Most assault-heavy factions aren't known for their rock-solid shooting either. It's often buckets o' dice (Orks) or 'bolt pistols' with a few low-strength blasts (Tyranids) for the most part. Not saying there isn't quality shooting in those factions because there is, it's just not spammable like 9pt BS3 Pulse Rifles. Well, yeah because they are assault-heavy factions. But I think you are under-selling them. Orks throw a ton of shots down field even if 2/3 of them miss, and Nids can really spam mid-strength shooting. I think one of the errors many people make when playing with or against Orks and Nids is ignoring all the shooting they can bring to the table. E: Your phrasing does a good job of acknowledging that. I like that you call them "assault heavy" instead of "assault focused" or just plain "assault." PeterWeller fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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Jul 21, 2014 06:41
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speaking of ork shooting I had a shokk attack gun go vortex twice on saturday.
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Jul 21, 2014 07:01
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That's the thing about Ork shooting. On average, it's pretty unremarkable, but it's also very swingy, so when the dice are hot, it can be devastating. Of course, it can also swing the other way, but you often expect it to be mediocre anyway. Lootas are a good example. On average, 10 of them will land 7 or 8 hits a round, but that can spike to a potential 30 hits in a round. Orks can be an absolutely ruthless source of shooting, just not reliably so.
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Jul 21, 2014 07:12
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PeterWeller posted:That's the thing about Ork shooting. On average, it's pretty unremarkable, but it's also very swingy, so when the dice are hot, it can be devastating. Of course, it can also swing the other way, but you often expect it to be mediocre anyway. Lootas are a good example. On average, 10 of them will land 7 or 8 hits a round, but that can spike to a potential 30 hits in a round. Orks can be an absolutely ruthless source of shooting, just not reliably so. and it's magic to see an opponents face when your dakkajet shoots his stormraven out of the sky
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Jul 21, 2014 07:30
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Anyone in the Seattle-Tacoma area play 40k? I just moved and i'm looking for a place that actually hosts wargames. So far all I've found has been tiny storefronts with the occasional MtG group..
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Jul 21, 2014 07:33
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Jul 21, 2014 07:43
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PeterWeller posted:Well, yeah because they are assault-heavy factions. But I think you are under-selling them. Orks throw a ton of shots down field even if 2/3 of them miss, and Nids can really spam mid-strength shooting. I think one of the errors many people make when playing with or against Orks and Nids is ignoring all the shooting they can bring to the table. Thanks. Like I mentioned, there are some really drat good shooting units in both armies (Lootas, Tankbustas, Exocrines, Biovores and Flyrants as good examples) but as opposed to a shooting-heavy army they're a lot less likely to be forcing those morale checks. Not sure how Tau are as I haven't come across them in a long while (one of our Tau players hasn't played a game in nearly two years and the other one is uh... not tactically-minded) so I'm not sure on what they have to skirt leadership tests. Last time I looked through a Tau book, Ethereals were the be-all-end-all for stopping units from running away and apparently they're no longer a liability if they die. Not many factions seem to care about leadership tests in the current age; Fearless is becoming less prevailent (GKs and Orks losing it, for instance) and less of a kick in the groin thanks to No Retreat saves going the way of the Squats but there's still a ton of ways to sidestep falling back, even if it does mean more of your models off themselves via the new Mob Rule. Buckets of dice are swingy as hell but the unreliable results make them that much more fun, and it's even better when a small handful of dice come up as ones for important armour saves. I'll never forget a 1250pt tournament back in 4th, when on the bottom of turn 1 I charged 5 Assault Terminators with 8 Hormagaunts and killed 4 of them 
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Jul 21, 2014 07:45
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Strength of Many posted:Anyone in the Seattle-Tacoma area play 40k? I just moved and i'm looking for a place that actually hosts wargames. I've lived here in Seattle for a few years, and I've managed to play 40k at exactly two stores, one of which doesn't seem to exist anymore. When I play 40k in public, I typically do so on Sundays at Card Kingdom in Ballard. They have 4 nice tables with a good selection of terrain, but even on GW day (Sunday) you will have to compete against warmachine/hordes players for a spot. I also play at co-workers houses, and hopefully soon at my own house. Feel free to PM me if you want to meet up for a game sometime!
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Jul 21, 2014 07:48
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 Counts-as Yarrick?
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Jul 21, 2014 07:56
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This. Also I paid $30 for this so y'all should at least have the courtesy to use it when the time comes(ie now): 
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Jul 21, 2014 08:03
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HiveCommander posted:Thanks. Like I mentioned, there are some really drat good shooting units in both armies (Lootas, Tankbustas, Exocrines, Biovores and Flyrants as good examples) but as opposed to a shooting-heavy army they're a lot less likely to be forcing those morale checks. Not sure how Tau are as I haven't come across them in a long while (one of our Tau players hasn't played a game in nearly two years and the other one is uh... not tactically-minded) so I'm not sure on what they have to skirt leadership tests. Last time I looked through a Tau book, Ethereals were the be-all-end-all for stopping units from running away and apparently they're no longer a liability if they die. I think they're doing a pretty good job of making Ld more important. While Demons and Orks may not fall back, they still suffer from their low Ld in other ways. Cutting back on the prevalence of fearless has the benefit of both making Ld more important and making fear and pinning more useful USRs. Really, the only place I think they have screwed up with the trend is with how punishing IB is now. They clearly think the fearless bubble is incredibly valuable, and as the game evolves, it looks to get more valuable, but that table is the shits. And yeah, the best Hams moments come from wild swings of the dice. I'll never forget the times when a single pathfinder blew up a devilfish and the entire squad on board, winning me the game, or a pair of berserkers ravaged an entire Nid backfield, cutting down hive guard, a horde of gaunts and a tervigon.
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Jul 21, 2014 08:14
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I just paid $50 for the stormclaw ork warboss. I already own 7 other warboss models. I give no fucks.
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Jul 21, 2014 08:20
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Fix posted:
This is seriously awesome. It's basically 40k.jpg Cataphract posted:I just paid $50 for the stormclaw ork warboss. I already own 7 other warboss models. I give no fucks. Also, this. 
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Jul 21, 2014 08:24
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Jesus the new space wolf flier is awful.
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Jul 21, 2014 12:10
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On the one hand it looks like a modified Caestus, which is cool. On the other hand I saw a shot from the side and it's basically shaped like a dog's head.
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Jul 21, 2014 12:17
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Fuegan posted:On the one hand it looks like a modified Caestus, which is cool. On the other hand I saw a shot from the side and it's basically shaped like a dog's head. It's also got a giant cannon in the middle called a frost beam or something idk its retarded as all hell.
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Jul 21, 2014 12:22
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Wow, yeah that thing looks terrible. Frost beam? Is that going to be another new weapon type?
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Jul 21, 2014 12:30
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Cross-post that poo poo already!
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Jul 21, 2014 12:33
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Looks like a chubby viper from BSG. Kinda neat.
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Jul 21, 2014 12:38
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In the grim darkness of the far future there is no such thing as aerodynamics.
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Jul 21, 2014 12:39
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On the other hand, following the giant walker trend from 6th it looks like with Orks and now the Wolves we've established the new unit trend for 7th edition - the 6 capacity support transport
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Jul 21, 2014 12:43
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helfrost destructor I don't mind the model honestly, it reminds me a lot of a Caestus.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:01
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Normally I'm a big fan of the GW Models and the hobby aspect regardless of how bad the rules are but that is one terrible model.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:09
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give other units ice weapons and reap my paychecks as I make a mr freeze army
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Jul 21, 2014 13:10
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It kinda looks like they carved a Caestus in two and replaced the crew compartment with a giant fuckoff gun. Also, Salty faeit212 posted:via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 No idea what the so-called Helfrost special rule will do, but it seems kind of weird to be expecting a Lance weapon in an Imperial army.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:12
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Not a fan initially either, but I do like the Caestus and it's not too different. Hoping to see more angles before I write it off. Rules will play a huge part.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:14
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Huge missed opportunity.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:19
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that thing looks dumb as poo poo. It looks like a flying shoe
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Jul 21, 2014 13:26
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As gw designs go this is a small thing to get annoyed by, but the missle pods will be firing exhaust right into their engine intakes, which would blow up the engines.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:27
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Drake_263 posted:No idea what the so-called Helfrost special rule will do, but it seems kind of weird to be expecting a Lance weapon in an Imperial army. Holy poo poo, an Imperial Flyer with a good non-lascannon gun!
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Jul 21, 2014 13:29
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I like the idea that the Wolves cut their Caestuses in half so that they would look more like boats.
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Jul 21, 2014 13:30
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Improbable Lobster posted:I like the idea that the Wolves cut their Caestuses in half so that they would look more like boats. Can only fit 3 Wolf Guard in Terminator armour in it though.
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I like the new flyer, but gently caress me if I can be arsed to buy new grey hunters because they took away bolters+chainswords.
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