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I think it's a question of whether Disney wants to pick up the tab to do proper restorations of the unaltered cuts. They can, obviously, they're loving Disney, but it's a question of whether they want to go to the effort. Then again they obviously have time.
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When was the last Star Wars Blu-Ray release? I want to say it's only been like 3 years. I don't think 4k alone is incentive enough for most people who bought the last one to drop the money on this one.
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Jul 16, 2014 06:53
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I haven't bought any of the Star Wars releases since I was 12 and the VHS special editions came out. I will buy the blu ray set of the original trilogy the instant they release the non-special edition versions. Until then I will happily continue to not own Star Wars.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:When was the last Star Wars Blu-Ray release? I want to say it's only been like 3 years. I don't think 4k alone is incentive enough for most people who bought the last one to drop the money on this one.
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Jul 16, 2014 07:42
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Fox still has the distribution rights to the films until 2020, and permanently in the case of ANH, so I doubt Disney is going to be helping out with restoring the theatric versions any time soon. Snowcow fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:I think it's a question of whether Disney wants to pick up the tab to do proper restorations of the unaltered cuts. They can, obviously, they're loving Disney, but it's a question of whether they want to go to the effort. Especially when they'd have to split the profits with Fox, who, for all monetary intents and purposes, own the films. efb
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Jul 16, 2014 16:10
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I seriously can't imagine watching a Star Wars movie without the Fox fanfare at the beginning. Whatever that experience will be like is inconceivable to me.
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Jul 16, 2014 19:05
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No wait what if they use the first 8 seconds of this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq6Kgf6Tnus
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Sirotan posted:Was there some reason you didn't want to order from Amazon Japan? With the exchange rate, you're looking at about $54 USD plus shipping (which was I think around $11 for me). In case any of you were wondering, no, Amazon Japan will *not* ship to a PO Box. 
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Steve Yun posted:I seriously can't imagine watching a Star Wars movie without the Fox fanfare at the beginning. Whatever that experience will be like is inconceivable to me. Agreed. You know they're going to try an opening with a "When You Wish Upon A Star (Wars)" kind of thing that is going to be so weird. 
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Jul 17, 2014 14:16
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Just replace the intro with this.
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Sith Happens posted:Agreed. You know they're going to try an opening with a "When You Wish Upon A Star (Wars)" kind of thing that is going to be so weird. I didn't realize this would happen but it just seems like sacrilege. I don't think I can accept a Star Wars movie not opening with that fanfare. More on topic, wouldn't it benefit both Disney and Fox to release the originals again? Fox profits from the sales and Disney profits from the brand awareness.
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Cloks posted:I didn't realize this would happen but it just seems like sacrilege. I don't think I can accept a Star Wars movie not opening with that fanfare. I dunno. I can see two major corporations pissing away money over politics.
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Disney just spent an ungodly fortune for Lucasfilms - how much extra would it really take to get distribution rights from Fox, even if just for a particular release (the way studios come to agreements over certain films so, say, a complete Hitchcock or Halloween set can be released)? Star Wars is worth so much to Disney as a way to pump out new sequels forever and then make boatloads on the merchandising. How much can Fox make from catalog Blu-ray sales of the original Star Wars, a film everyone who cares already owns in some configuration, and a film that will be less and less relevant to the young kids who are the real market that Disney wants to tap? I think its in Disney's interest to release the original trilogy as a first (and most likely final) olive branch to the diehards to get good vibes flowing across the board around the release of Episode VII, and I think it's in Fox's interest to take the moneyhat from Disney as that might be the largest chunk of change they will ever make on Star Wars ever again. Either way, SOMEONE commissioned a 4K scan, so something has to be up. Maybe Fox thinks they can make more selling it themselves than taking money to let Disney release it.
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CPL593H posted:It's that time again: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/Criterion-Collection-Blu-ray-Disc-DVD-Special-Editions/379003202 gently caress you. I went drinking, saw this, and spent $100.
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Has anyone ever heard talk of a release for Peckinpah's Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid?
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Neo_Reloaded posted:Either way, SOMEONE commissioned a 4K scan, so something has to be up. Maybe Fox thinks they can make more selling it themselves than taking money to let Disney release it. The scans were done years ago. LFL sent the neg to Reliance and it was the special editions. I've seen them.
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Egbert Souse posted:new remasters of True Lies and The Abyss These were done years ago along with the Terminator remaster. They've been sitting there gathering dust.
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Five Cent Deposit posted:These were done years ago along with the Terminator remaster. They've been sitting there gathering dust. Why? As long as you're sharing do you have any insight? The Abyss has never had a good release EVER, and every time I see a ton of new posts in this thread my heart jumps a bit thinking we'll finally get an official release date. I kind of love the film and the wait is infuriating.
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Five Cent Deposit posted:These were done years ago along with the Terminator remaster. They've been sitting there gathering dust. ... That isn't true unless James Cameron was lying in interviews about how he was going to supervise the new transfers. Or maybe it is true. It has been like 2-3 years since he talked about them (jeez, it didn't feel that long ago) Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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Blu-Ray.com on Shout! Factory's Herzog set Most of the films appear to be from older transfers that have some noise and filtering built-in, but nothing horrible like a typical Universal no-effort video master. However, the BFI release of Nosferatu is apparently less filtered, so we'll have to see if there's major differences on that set.
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ApexAftermath posted:Why? As long as you're sharing do you have any insight? The Abyss has never had a good release EVER, and every time I see a ton of new posts in this thread my heart jumps a bit thinking we'll finally get an official release date. I kind of love the film and the wait is infuriating. Cameron has to see it and be happy with it. He has to give a final sign off on it. Last I checked (years ago) Reliance didn't know why the project had stalled out. Their work was done, and his people had been notified. It was anyone's guess as to why he wasn't prioritizing it. But y'know, he is a pretty busy guy. Call Me Charlie posted:That isn't true unless James Cameron was lying in interviews about how he was going to supervise the new transfers. Two years ago, I was looking at outputs of Terminator that were finally being dusted off - this is what became the most recent Blu of that film. I asked about True Lies and The Abyss and was told that they, too, had been done "for years" and that "they were all done around the same time" in the memory of the guy who I was talking to. He pegged it at 2008 or 2009. Cameron already gave years of his life to these films, decades ago. He's like the most ambitious person in the universe. You really think he wants to be in the trenches supervising dozens of people for months or years to restore his old films? When he says "supervise" he means "sign off on" work that's already done. Now in his case that does mean looking more closely than most other directors would, and potentially kicking stuff back for additional work. And that is indeed a time and energy commitment - one that he has put off in favor of doing other things. And the world keeps turning.
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Egbert Souse posted:Blu-Ray.com on Shout! Factory's Herzog set Cancelled my pre-order, disappointing.
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Neo_Reloaded posted:How much can Fox make from catalog Blu-ray sales of the original Star Wars... It'll probably end up in the top 10 of most sold blu-rays in that year, so a lot I guess?
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Trump posted:It'll probably end up in the top 10 of most sold blu-rays in that year, so a lot I guess? http://www.the-numbers.com/alltime-bluray-sales-chart I guess the last set did sell pretty well (better than I initially thought). I'm not sure how many people really care about theatrical vs. revised, and whether that means a 2nd release will sell better or worse than the first. I do suppose it'd make a nice chunk of change if the numbers are similar to last time, but I still imagine Disney could make it worth their while somehow. Even if Fox is the one to make money off the discs, I feel like Disney would want them released mostly for the good will it'd bring to the whole franchise. Obviously all armchair quarterbacking on my part. Shame that the 4K scan being shown off is the special editions, but I hope they figure out how to do right by these films once and for all. Neo_Reloaded fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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Man, I don't own anything on that chart until Inception, and I own like... 400-450 titles.
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Five Cent Deposit posted:And that is indeed a time and energy commitment - one that he has put off in favor of doing other things. And the world keeps turning. You have to admit the fact that The Abyss has never seen an anamorphic release is loving pathetic.
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ApexAftermath posted:You have to admit the fact that The Abyss has never seen an anamorphic release is loving pathetic. It's been played on TV in HD, kinda like how True Lies got a D-Theater release once upon a time.
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Call Me Charlie posted:It's been played on TV in HD, kinda like how True Lies got a D-Theater release once upon a time. Well yeah it's FINALLY been played on tv in HD as in the last several months. I'm assuming the HD remaster was finally released to Showtime and the other networks. Before that even when HBO played it on HBO HD it was still the 4:3 SD version being upscaled. It was ugly as sin obviously.
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And it's still the edited cut that removes all the social commentary. I won't be happy until I have a full HD uncut release.
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What kind of cuts were made to the movie initially? I don't think I've heard of that before.
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quote:"The sequence with the aliens in their underwater ship has been greatly extended and now involves a whole extra twist to the plot. When Bud is taken inside their ship, they show him an assortment of images on a giant screen. The first few images are of the news reports about the NATO and Russian military buildups. Bud realizes that the aliens can pick up our television signals and have been monitoring our TV stations. Broadcast only shows the edited versions, which I swear I remember reading Cameron said he was very unhappy about, but I can't find it now for the life of me. The trimmed part being omitted essentially ruins the entire message of the film. Back when the special edition of The Abyss came out they put it back in, and redid all the CG now that ILM had become the CG powerhouse that it did. Cameron used his Terminator 2 money to have the now-insanely-powerful ILM redo all the CG. edit: here's the original script with the above sequence intact Slim Killington fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Kingtheninja posted:What kind of cuts were made to the movie initially? I don't think I've heard of that before. Oh man you gotta see the extended cut. The theatrical just seems incoherent by comparison. EDIT: There's also quite a few scene extensions and extra little parts throughout the rest of the film if I recall. It's been so long since I've seen the special edition since there is no good way to watch it right now. I have the dvd sitting on my shelf, but I'd rather just wait for this loving blu ray to finally drop so it can feel really new when I watch it. I hope they port over all the dvd special feature material too as the making of docs are really really good and capture just how tense that set was. Pretty sure Ed Harris knocked Cameron the gently caress out when he got too intense directing the resuscitation scene where Bud slaps Lindsey during CPR. ApexAftermath fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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ApexAftermath posted:I hope they port over all the dvd special feature material too as the making of docs are really really good and capture just how tense that set was. Pretty sure Ed Harris knocked Cameron the gently caress out when he got too intense directing the resuscitation scene where Bud slaps Lindsey during CPR. Wasn't there a story about Cameron loving around with the oxygen supply for a scene?
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Actually I think I've only ever seen the extended cut, I don't remember not seeing the war message at the end. And yeah, I would rather wait for a blu ray instead of watching the DVD again 
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The theatrical cut ending of The Abyss has the same effect as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoJ32JchVno
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I can't wait for this to hit blu-ray after it's theatrical run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IgDSKHv9jQ
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TheJoker138 posted:I can't wait for this to hit blu-ray after it's theatrical run. Is this going to be any better than the previous blu-ray?
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DVD Beaver has a review up for the German Blu-Ray of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari 
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CPL593H posted:Is this going to be any better than the previous blu-ray? It's a brand new 4k master that Hooper oversaw. All the early reports are it looks even better than it did in it's original run.
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