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Having explosions in space is fine, having sound in space is fine, having a hundred other things happen that shouldn't be able to in space is fine. Woah there a floating hand that doesn't adhere to the very strict rules of science I've now just acquired? JJ you done fell off man. I really don't get the hate. Who the hell cares. It works perfectly fine within the bendy science logic that already exists within in the SW universe.
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DrVenkman posted:Having explosions in space is fine, having sound in space is fine, having a hundred other things happen that shouldn't be able to in space is fine. Woah there a floating hand that doesn't adhere to the very strict rules of science I've now just acquired? JJ you done fell off man. Yeah star wars have never given a gently caress about any sort of science, as seen by all the space wizards, and I think it could definitely a cool intro visual if they do it right.
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Jul 21, 2014 16:10
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Yeah it sounds bizarre and fantastic and more inspired than anything Star Wars has done since 1980.
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Jul 21, 2014 16:16
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It sounds stupid and excessive and attention-grabbing. Star Wars doesn't need more violence or any of that, it needs someone that can actually direct a good PG-rated movie.
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Jul 21, 2014 16:48
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euphronius posted:Lucas and his cinematographers used a still camera almost exclusively, no? Nah, it's more mostly swoops and pans and fairly steady camera maneuvers as opposed to the shakier stuff.
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Jul 21, 2014 16:49
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Yeah I meant 'steady' not 'still'.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:08
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MrBigglesworth posted:That's a Z-95 Headhunter right there! Two blasters on the tips of the wings. It's not a Headhunter, though the wings tricked me too for a second.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:21
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Does the camera shake with Echo Base is being bombed in ESB? I think it does.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:28
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euphronius posted:Does the camera shake with Echo Base is being bombed in ESB? I think it does. Inside the space worm's belly is the Bourne Ultimatum of the Star Wars universe.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:49
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How would a space worm even exist???! What is it eating? Where is the moisture from? How does it stay warm when the asteroid is probably like negative 1 million degrees? It doesn't make SENSE.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:53
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Was this posted yet? Footage of the new X-Wings. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=783460195038917 EDIT: Not footage but a reveal of a practical X-Wing.
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Jul 21, 2014 17:55
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euphronius posted:How would a space worm even exist???! What is it eating? Where is the moisture from? How does it stay warm when the asteroid is probably like negative 1 million degrees? It doesn't make SENSE. A space worm is a demonic presence, like Giger's Alien. It's beyond those concerns. 
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Jul 21, 2014 18:00
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euphronius posted:How would a space worm even exist???! What is it eating? Where is the moisture from? How does it stay warm when the asteroid is probably like negative 1 million degrees? It doesn't make SENSE. It's not impossible to think evolution could occour within a large asteroid field. There is ice for water, organic chemical compounds within the asteroids, and sunlight from the nearest star. A whole ecosystem would exist with all other kinds of space plants, animals, bacteria, viruses, etc. as far as the temp the life of space would have enzymes which react at the temperature of the asteroids.
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Jul 21, 2014 18:12
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Lord Krangdar posted:A space worm is a demonic presence, like Giger's Alien. It's beyond those concerns. Space worms suckin dicks. Is that from the cancelled Dune project? Otto Von Jizzmark posted:It's not impossible to think evolution could occour within a large asteroid field. There is ice for water, organic chemical compounds within the asteroids, and sunlight from the nearest star. A whole ecosystem would exist with all other kinds of space plants, animals, bacteria, viruses, etc. as far as the temp the life of space would have enzymes which react at the temperature of the asteroids. And I'm sure all of this was considered when the screenplay was written.
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Jul 21, 2014 18:18
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Lord Krangdar posted:A space worm is a demonic presence, like Giger's Alien. It's beyond those concerns. I know i was making fun of the the floating hand stuff earlier.
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Jul 21, 2014 18:19
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For a moment I thought I was still in the comic book movie thread and these spoilers were for Guardians of the Galaxy and man, I was confused. Then I thought about it and now I'm sad GotG wont start that way, and then Hooked on a Feeling starts playing.
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Jul 21, 2014 18:38
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euphronius posted:How would a space worm even exist???! What is it eating? Where is the moisture from? How does it stay warm when the asteroid is probably like negative 1 million degrees? It doesn't make SENSE. We have creatures alive right now on this planet that can survive the vacuum of space quite happily. Its not a stretch. Also a piece of metal floating in space near to this planet will reach around 256 degrees Celsius in the sunlight, but will cool to -100 degrees in the shade. Far from - one million 
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Jul 21, 2014 19:31
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Raku posted:It sounds stupid and excessive and attention-grabbing. Star Wars doesn't need more violence or any of that, it needs someone that can actually direct a good PG-rated movie. Dude, it'll be PG-13. The OT would have been PG-13 if it had existed, and episode 1 and 2 only got PG because of reasons.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:39
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Vintersorg posted:Was this posted yet? Footage of the new X-Wings. I hear they put actual engines on that thing and are going to fly it around rather than use CGI models for the dogfights. euphronius posted:Yeah I meant 'steady' not 'still'. There were a few shaky camera maneuvers during the end battle in Episode II, but nothing extravagant.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:32
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Also a piece of metal floating in space near to this planet will reach around 256 degrees Celsius in the sunlight, but will cool to -100 degrees in the shade. Far from - one million Please, God, let this be the last post about the science of a hand floating in space. Lord, I know Goons are a spergy lot, but this thread tests even my patience.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:34
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The most interesting thing about the new video of the X-wing and pilot is that there's no recognizable insignia anywhere to indicate whether they're part of a continuing Rebellion or reconstituted Republic.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:37
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Benedick Cuckold posted:The most interesting thing about the new video of the X-wing and pilot is that there's no recognizable insignia anywhere to indicate whether they're part of a continuing Rebellion or reconstituted Republic. Maybe they havent been final designed yet.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:45
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Benedick Cuckold posted:I hear they put actual engines on that thing and are going to fly it around rather than use CGI models for the dogfights. Um, what? Does that sound absolutely insane to anyone else?
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Jul 21, 2014 20:45
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Mogomra posted:Um, what? Does that sound absolutely insane to anyone else? Not as insane as JJ's plan to film half of the movies IN space.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:51
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euphronius posted:Maybe they havent been final designed yet. I just assumed they left them out for the video so plot details wouldn't be given away. Happy Noodle Boy posted:Not as insane as JJ's plan to film half of the movies IN space. Hey man, if you think about it....ALL movies are filmed in space.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:53
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I really like the look of that X-wing. It has that same aesthetic from the original trilogy of being a dinged and dirty fighter instead of clean and pristine.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:03
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Is the shown X wing different than the OT ones? I have not compared SSs but the engines look different and it looks flater. edit Yeah it is def an evolved design.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:04
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Nerding out: 
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Jul 21, 2014 21:08
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Yeah, it looks streamlined and updated, but it still maintains the original aesthetic. It reminds me of the way they updated the Vipers for the BSG reboot.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:10
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euphronius posted:Nerding out: And here's the one from Episode III.  They went from two engines, to four engines, and then back to two engines. It's like if razors started losing numbers of blades!
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Jul 21, 2014 21:12
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That's the strangest X-Wing, and I noticed something. The wing doesn't split down the middle on the front, it splits down the middle on the BROAD side. Take another look:  loving weird, but cool as hell
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Jul 21, 2014 21:14
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Red posted:Please, God, let this be the last post about the science of a hand floating in space. You will hear people complaining about this for decades.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:18
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Neowyrm posted:That's the strangest X-Wing, and I noticed something. The wing doesn't split down the middle on the front, it splits down the middle on the BROAD side. Or the engine splits in two, like the old concept art. 
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Jul 21, 2014 21:30
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Or both!
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Jul 21, 2014 21:32
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Cross-Section posted:Or both! This is what I was attempting to illustrate, but I am terrible at drawing diagrams, apparently.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:34
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The engine does appear to have a seam down the middle when the camera is in close.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:55
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Anyone able to grab a decent HD capture of that?
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Jul 21, 2014 21:57
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feedmyleg posted:You will hear people complaining about this for decades. I doubt it's even accurate, so probably not.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:02
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DrVenkman posted:Having explosions in space is fine, having sound in space is fine, having a hundred other things happen that shouldn't be able to in space is fine. Woah there a floating hand that doesn't adhere to the very strict rules of science I've now just acquired? JJ you done fell off man. Explosions and sound and fighter dogfights in space are departures from reality we accept because they're cool. They also follow an internal logic: fighter battles in Star Wars resemble dogfights from WWII with formations, looping maneuvers to get on the other guy's six, etc. A hand falling through a planet's atmosphere and not burning up is just straight up calvinballing so you can tell your stupid story your way. They are not at all the same thing: your uncritical acceptance is as bad as the worst Wookiepedian sperging about TIE fighter engine loadouts and would let the writers off the hook for lazy bullshit. e: the spaceworm is something they threw into the movie because, again, it's cool. It has no significant impact on the story. It's seen for five seconds and you could cut it out completely and change nothing in the plot. If you hinge the entire premise of your movie on some wacky bullshit that violates the laws of the universe as we know it, you had drat well better explain it. e: vvv It's literally the opening to The Gods Must Be Crazy on Tattooine. I can't envision it happening non-comedically. Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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Counterpoint: a hand flying through an atmosphere without burning up is cool.
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