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thathonkey posted:The one interesting character development/moment was Kevin's wife trying to retrieve the gifted lighter. This shows that she doesn't actually believe there is no more family. I think this is also the first time it is revealed that Tommy is not Kevin's biological son. EDIT: Also lol at the misdirection of the season preview with the flaming arrows. Knives and Hot Dust fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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Eukodol posted:I think the show might be just a smidgen more bearable if just one character wasn't a complete shithead to everybody else. Yeah, with some of the characters the show chooses to follow there's just not enough I like or find interesting about them to offset how scummy and annoying they act. I wish the Mayor and Nora got some of the screentime devoted to the Sheriff's kids.
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Jul 21, 2014 19:26
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Why do you need someone to act righteous and pure to follow a story, exactly?
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hemophilia posted:Why do you need someone to act righteous and pure to follow a story, exactly? I don't.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:19
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savinhill posted:the Mayor Oh yeah, there is one character I like.
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Jul 21, 2014 20:32
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savinhill posted:Yeah, with some of the characters the show chooses to follow there's just not enough I like or find interesting about them to offset how scummy and annoying they act. I must not be understanding the issue that you have with the characters because, like hemophilia, I'm left with the impression that the only characters you would like are purely virtuous ones. Frankly, those kinds of characters typically aren't interesting, because they're unrealistic and unrelatable. Ersatz fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jul 21, 2014 |
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Jul 21, 2014 20:45
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Yeah the storyline with Tommy and the pregnant asian girl are the only parts I don't like. Are we suppose to know what's going on with them? If I'm not, what reason do I have to care? Everything else is interesting though. And on not really having any likeable characters... I think it may be intentional. The Departure has made everyone miserable and not like themselves. They feel they are to blame for what happened. Just look at what happened when Kevin tried to crack a joke with the baby jesus on stage. The response was awkward and off.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:03
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Episode was a letdown after episode 3. The theft of the baby Jesus doll is a little heavy handed in metaphorical weight even if it's realistic for a group of bored teens. The mystery was almost interesting but the police chief solved it immediately, and to have it be his daughter makes the town/narrative world feel small. The realdoll comparison between manufactured babies and substitute corpses was cool, though I didn't even realize those were supposed to be dolls until I read this thread. They were presented like corpses ('cause they are, sort of) and I thought it was some sort of weird mass grave mystery setup. The assembly line imagery in the opener was a glimpse into how commercial and manufactured sentiments can be. A cynical interpretation would say that it's all meaningless, which is the core tenet of the GR. The substitute corpses could be just as empty, though both of their existence and commercial success shows that people find meaning even in emptiness. Christine and tommy are bad characters and the hospital scene doesn't make that much sense. Why couldn't Christine just exonerate him? Also you wouldn't scrape your knuckles against a pregnant belly, would you? Her naïveté and dream/faith/whatever are more frustrating than intriguing. 6 weeks is also a long period of time for Christine to go around telling everyone about Wayne without tommy chastising her. I'm ok with the GR. Liv Tyler is much too precious for me but I like Jill. I also kind of like Nora, and Matt is of course awesome.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:20
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I'm going to move to America and become a burglar because drat that poo poo looks easy.
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Jul 21, 2014 21:57
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Get ready to be castle doctrined to death.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:04
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R. Mute posted:I'm going to move to America and become a burglar because drat that poo poo looks easy. I hope you have a screwdriver.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:09
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R. Mute posted:I'm going to move to America and become a burglar because drat that poo poo looks easy. Not sure how big the show's town is, but in some small American towns it's still not that uncommon for people to leave their windows and even doors unlocked, not have security systems, etc. But still, that scene where the GR are suddenly expert cat burglars was as stupid as it was implausible. I really want to like this show but this episode was the weakest so far by a long shot.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:09
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This might be a stupid question, but is it possible the GR were breaking into their own (old) homes? I don't have it taped to rewatch it and check. Would make a little bit of sense I guess.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:25
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Jill and LIv Tyler broke into Nora's home so no, but it did cover a lot of familiar other homes.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:33
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This show is getting worse and worse. Sadly I will have to continue watching because my fiancé wants answers to all the dumb questions the show keeps bringing up. I don't think she's gonna get the answers she wants, just more questions. I don't know how anybody can rationalize leaving their family like Lori did. No "secret answer" the GR might have can possibly be good enough to see her daughter and still be a total bitch and not even speak to her. Doesn't she see the damage she is causing her own children? I got visibly frustrated watching the scene in the house. I guess that's good that the show gets a reaction out of me, but it's just frustrating and I'm definitely not enjoying myself.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:43
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Did someone else make episode 3? Was it filmed after the rest of the season by an entirely different director? Episode 4 nose-dived right back to the slow and bland of episode 1 & 2 and I just don't get it. 
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Jul 21, 2014 22:43
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Just watched the episode, and I enjoyed it a lot. After reading this thread I don't know if I am the boring or wrong person or the people hate watching are. Lost really ruined television, didn't it? Good episode, like the rest of you I am a bit confused about Tom and the pregnant Asian chick. Feels like there is more than enough in small town New York, without this weird distraction to the west. I guess the only good thing is we realize that poo poo is bad everywhere.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:45
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I can certainly understand not liking the show at this point but why do people keep acting like it keeps bringing up new mysteries and such?
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Jul 21, 2014 22:53
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Who has acted like that? I think the only mystery is that 2% disappeared and no one knows why. I think they people who are ok with the show, accept that and want to see what happens to the remainder. No mystery, just watching a summer social experiment. I could be completely off on why others are enjoying this like I am.
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Jul 21, 2014 22:57
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I enjoyed the Game of Thrones funeral reenactment with the baby.
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Jul 21, 2014 23:23
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Dirk Pitt posted:I could be completely off on why others are enjoying this like I am. When the competition is fine television Tyrant and Under the Dome this show will have to do a lot worse to make me actually drop it. There really isn't anything better to watch except Defiance and maybe The Strain.
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Jul 21, 2014 23:28
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Xoidanor posted:When the competition is fine television Tyrant and Under the Dome this show will have to do a lot worse to make me actually drop it. There really isn't anything better to watch except Defiance and maybe The Strain. Rectify
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Jul 21, 2014 23:29
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mistermojo posted:Rectify Welp, don't know how I missed this but I've got some catching up to do.
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Xoidanor posted:When the competition is fine television Tyrant and Under the Dome this show will have to do a lot worse to make me actually drop it. There really isn't anything better to watch except Defiance and maybe The Strain. This is my thought. I'm not bumping mad men to record this, but television isn't great in the summer and this is easy above average to me.
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Jul 21, 2014 23:34
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Am I wrong or were the GR cat burglars targeting just those homes/photos of those that were beamed away? Or was it them just loving with people for...reasons?
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Jul 21, 2014 23:51
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Am I wrong or were the GR cat burglars targeting just those homes/photos of those that were beamed away? Or was it them just loving with people for...reasons? You're correct. They were stealing every photo of people who had departed, leaving only empty frames. It makes me root for cops, and I am not used to rooting for cops.
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Jul 22, 2014 00:26
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Dirk Pitt posted:You're correct. They were stealing every photo of people who had departed, leaving only empty frames. It makes me root for cops, and I am not used to rooting for cops. Yeah, except for the Sheriff flexing his muscle to intimidate the twins into giving baby jesus back, the cops are the least realistic part of this show.
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Jul 22, 2014 01:01
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Tomahawk posted:Yeah, except for the Sheriff flexing his muscle to intimidate the twins into giving baby jesus back, the cops are the least realistic part of this show. That was intimidation? I thought he was just telling some kids to give back his baby jesus....
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Professor Shark posted:The GR remind me a lot of the Goth kids from South Park. They don't care so much that they devote their entire waking lives to letting others know how much they don't care while pulling drags from their cigarettes. This is so true, and makes me now just laugh at the GR instead of just being annoyed.
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Dirk Pitt posted:That was intimidation? I thought he was just telling some kids to give back his baby jesus.... Did you miss the part where he ran them off the road and threatened them or what
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Ersatz posted:The priest and the chief are both at least well-written and interesting (and neither strikes me as scummy - they have good motivations but are simply flawed in various ways). It's that some of the characters act like assholes, and not in an entertaining way, while also not really having anything interesting or exciting going on in their storylines, so its hard to like or root for those characters. Someone already pointed out the mother abandoning and shunning her kids; the daughter just acts all glum when she's not in gently caress-you-dad mode; and then there's Tom, who seems like an angry douche most of the time and has the further disadvantage of only interacting with another annoying character. I have no problem whatsoever with morally ambiguous, or even repugnant, characters as long as they're fun, interesting or entertaining to watch.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:24
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All the good characters in this show: Dean Nora Matt Lucy Aimee Adam&Scott Patti Unlikable, boring assholes: Everyone else.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:43
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Jul 22, 2014 02:56
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The priest.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:57
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If people are watching this show for "answers", they should probably stop. Im pretty sure the point is there are none and never will be any and the effect that has on people and society. Is that not incredibly obvious at this point?
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Jul 22, 2014 03:07
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AccountSupervisor posted:If people are watching this show for "answers", they should probably stop. Im pretty sure the point is there are none and never will be any and the effect that has on people and society. Is that not incredibly obvious at this point? I'd much rather prefer a weekly roll call on which poster has given up for which egregious sjw offense.
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thathonkey posted:Not sure how big the show's town is, but in some small American towns it's still not that uncommon for people to leave their windows and even doors unlocked, not have security systems, etc. For a show about 2% of the world's population vanishing, I'm not sure what it was about the burglary part that my suspension of disbelief choked on. I mean, not ONE of them caught in the act? It's not like they just broke in and took one thing and ran. They were carefully taking apart picture frames ffs. No dogs barking, no homeowner defending his property with a bat/shotgun. 100% success rate.
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savinhill posted:some of the characters act like assholes, and not in an entertaining way, while also not really having anything interesting or exciting going on Dantu posted:For a show about 2% of the world's population vanishing, I'm not sure what it was about the burglary part that my suspension of disbelief choked on.
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Apparently Sepinwall didn't see this episode, but he said the 3rd and 5th episodes were very good. I didn't think this episode was that good but the 3rd was fantastic so I'm going to keep with it. Also I don't really get the need for characters to be likeable. A bunch of assholes are a lot more interesting than a bunch of good guys. Sheng-Ji Yang fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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