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Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

pseudorandom name posted:

there's already a native gallium d3d9 driver and most of a d3d10 driver, wine explicitly rejected it and it's gone nowhere since

the gallium d3d stuff isn't a complete d3d implementation. it's the backend to write a graphics driver that could provide d3d.

e.g. there's no hlsl compiler

# ? Jul 18, 2014 02:37

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# ? May 15, 2024 13:48

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

Why isn't the part that says "I want the GNOME desktop" a separate set of configuration that tell it the list of system components needed for the desktop and the list of default applications?

this is called debconf
and also tasksel
and also apt recommends

the problem is that configuration and "what files go on disk" are tightly related problems that are hard to unpick. even when you have the best of intentions poo poo steps on each other

debconf handles most of the problems like "what are the default applications," but the details of needed components ended up as a better fit in the package system

# ? Jul 18, 2014 02:40

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the gallium d3d stuff isn't a complete d3d implementation. it's the backend to write a graphics driver that could provide d3d.

e.g. there's no hlsl compiler

The HLSL compiler isn't part of the runtime. It's part of the SDK. Gallium's D3D is designed as a runtime implementation, not an SDK implementation.

# ? Jul 18, 2014 02:52

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

The HLSL compiler isn't part of the runtime. It's part of the SDK. Gallium's D3D is designed as a runtime implementation, not an SDK implementation.

a runtime without an sdk is completely useless to the wine project

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:00

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Why?

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:01

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

Why?

Wine Is Not an Emulator. that's not (only) a joke.

keeping winelib viable as a complete sdk is really important to the people who work on this stuff, even if it isn't noticed by the average user

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:01

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Wine doesn't ship a source-compatible replacement for cl.exe or nmake.exe. Why would they ship one for fxc.exe?

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:07

z0rlandi viSSer: Nov 5, 2013

ShadowHawk posted:

To be clear, on Ubuntu,

did anyone else stop reading right there?

lmfao

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:10

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

i run arch.

works well as a desktop.

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:19

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Suspicious Dish posted:

Wine doesn't ship a source-compatible replacement for cl.exe or nmake.exe. Why would they ship one for fxc.exe?

they ship a suite of tools (winemaker/winemake) to generate new makefiles for your native compiler and native make. target platforms tend to have C compilers and make tools.

they don't tend to have hlsl compilers. that would be a tool wine would have to bring with it. (or some other d3d sdk could do it)

# ? Jul 18, 2014 03:26

SpaceAceJase: Nov 8, 2008; and you
have proved
to be...

a real shitty poster,
and a real james

still searching for a tiled window manager that doesn't suck

# ? Jul 18, 2014 08:08

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

SpaceAceJase posted:

still searching for a tiled window manager that doesn't suck

ion3

# ? Jul 18, 2014 08:27

SpaceAceJase: Nov 8, 2008; and you
have proved
to be...

a real shitty poster,
and a real james

ahmeni posted:

ion3

Screenshot plz

# ? Jul 18, 2014 08:40

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

SpaceAceJase posted:

still searching for a tiled window manager that doesn't suck

i3wm

owns owns owns

plus it has good documentation

http://i3wm.org

# ? Jul 18, 2014 13:45

Careful Drums: Oct 30, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

i run arch.

works well as a desktop.

I used to too when I gave a drat about a Linux. Arch owns pretty hard but you have to know a lot about how computers work and be able to read the only good unironic wiki (the arch wiki) and documentation and poo poo.

It gives you a hell of a lot of rope with which to hang yourself, though.

# ? Jul 18, 2014 14:25

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSgUPqygAww

# ? Jul 18, 2014 14:30

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

Careful Drums posted:

I used to too when I gave a drat about a Linux. Arch owns pretty hard but you have to know a lot about how computers work and be able to read the only good unironic wiki (the arch wiki) and documentation and poo poo.

It gives you a hell of a lot of rope with which to hang yourself, though.

i spend my entire work day in vim, so i haven't really had to change anything in my configuration in a long time.

basically i got i3 up, rxvt, and gcc/gdb going and that was all i needed

# ? Jul 18, 2014 16:30

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

i used to use a tiling wm but then i matured a bit so now i use gnome3

well that's my story cya

# ? Jul 18, 2014 16:55

Careful Drums: Oct 30, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

is i3 like awesomewm but with a useful configuraton?

because gently caress writing code to configure a loving thing that is the worst thing ever i shouldn't have to learn a god drat api to use consumer software

# ? Jul 18, 2014 18:00

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

some guy reported a bug in gtk+ once with i3 and i was like "ugh, time to configure another bespoke crazy tilnig wm" but then i installed i3 and tried it out and it's actually really not that bad.

# ? Jul 18, 2014 18:08

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

Careful Drums posted:

is i3 like awesomewm but with a useful configuraton?

because gently caress writing code to configure a loving thing that is the worst thing ever i shouldn't have to learn a god drat api to use consumer software

yes https://github.com/ivyl/i3-config/blob/master/config

# ? Jul 18, 2014 18:41

Careful Drums: Oct 30, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

yes https://github.com/ivyl/i3-config/blob/master/config

sweet

now i want to install a linux

# ? Jul 18, 2014 18:46

theadder: Dec 30, 2011

Fabricated posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSgUPqygAww

weird man op

# ? Jul 19, 2014 07:25

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

Fabricated posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSgUPqygAww

im the generally unused 3d printer

and the blocking out of the sun's light and warmth

# ? Jul 19, 2014 08:44

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

SpaceAceJase posted:

Screenshot plz

# ? Jul 21, 2014 00:08

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

apparently ion3 hasnt actually been maintained in like 5 years
look at this sperg

quote:

Tuomo Valkonen, the author of Ion, has been at the center of several controversies concerning the licensing and distribution of his software, in particular the proclivity of major Linux and BSD distributions of making outdated development versions of Ion3 (the current unstable development branch) available as part of "frozen" software repositories. Often, such versions will include patches, such as for Xinerama or Xft support, both of which Valkonen disapproves on professional and personal grounds and has had removed from the main source tree. Yet, such distribution would seem to imply that the patched version is the official Ion3 package maintained by Valkonen himself, which he sees as unacceptable. Valkonen has even recently become an outspoken critic of the entire free software and open source movement (the "FOSS herd", as he refers to it)[3] due to his perceived mistreatment at the hands of several major distributions, including Arch Linux, Debian, pkgsrc (NetBSD, DragonflyBSD), and FreeBSD.

On April 28, 2007, Valkonen warned the Arch Linux maintainers of possible legal action because the (unofficial) Arch User Repository contained scripts to install Ion3 with patches he did not approve of.[4] Later on he did the same with the pkgsrc maintainer of the NetBSD project[5] and the ports maintainer of the FreeBSD project.[6] As of December 12, 2007,[7] the development branch of Ion, along with other software by Valkonen, was pulled[8] from the FreeBSD ports tree, after the author filed a complaint about outdated development releases still being available. Any version of Ion may still be installed from source code on any Unix system with proper libraries and dependencies.

Valkonen has implied in several mailing lists that he has become completely disillusioned with, if not openly hostile toward, the free software community in general. He plans to switch to developing strictly closed-source software for the Windows platform in the future.[9] Subsequently the author has given up on *nix and started using Windows instead.[10]

# ? Jul 21, 2014 00:10

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

ahmeni posted:

apparently ion3 hasnt actually been maintained in like 5 years
look at this sperg

more like petulant childe

# ? Jul 21, 2014 03:03

Sniep: Mar 28, 2004; All I needed was that fatty blunt...

King of Breakfast

I don't think so, op

# ? Jul 21, 2014 06:02

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

$ bc -l
-bash: bc: command not found

I hate when this happens. cmon guys, what the hell you're saving like 100KB of space to not include a standard unix utility? :saddowns:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 14:21

Broken Machine: Oct 22, 2010

What about dc, do they at least have dc

# ? Jul 22, 2014 14:57

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

whats bc

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:01

Broken Machine: Oct 22, 2010

It is a calculator Bloody.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:03

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:03

Lysidas: Jul 26, 2002; John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.; Pillbug

i hate the jackass at redhat that decided to remove ddate from default builds of util-linux

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:08

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Lysidas posted:

i hate the jackass at redhat that decided to remove ddate from default builds of util-linux

maybe that change was reverted. it's in my minimal cent image

code:

[kitchen@2f2726c33eb0 ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release 
CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
[kitchen@2f2726c33eb0 ~]$ ddate
Today is Pungenday, the 57th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3180

# ? Jul 22, 2014 16:22

Forums Terrorist: Dec 8, 2011

it wasn't in fedora 20, i had to pull it down off yum

# ? Jul 22, 2014 16:23

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

maybe that change was reverted. it's in my minimal cent image

code:

[kitchen@2f2726c33eb0 ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release 
CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
[kitchen@2f2726c33eb0 ~]$ ddate
Today is Pungenday, the 57th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3180

what the gently caress is ddate

also does it ship with sl?

# ? Jul 22, 2014 16:34