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Gavok posted:I wrote up a thing on the 30 Best Thunderbolts Moments. Yes, there's a Daniel Way entry tossed in there. I'm not perfect. I enjoyed reading that. When it was coming out (though I only followed it in trades), New Thunderbolts was my favourite comic (jointly with JSA by Geoff Johs). I'm not sure why I liked it so much, since I didn't really have any familiarity with the characters, but I thought it was great. In retrospect, I'm a little cooler towards it, and it seems like it was especially badly derailed by Civil War, but I still have a certain degree of nostalgia for it. I also think Nicieza is an underrated writer. He may not break new ground on a regular basis or anything, but he's very good at what he does. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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I love the Cable and Deadpool series so Fabian Nicieza is alright with me. I still think it's the best run of Deadpool ever.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:22
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Deadpool posted:I love the Cable and Deadpool series so Fabian Nicieza is alright with me. I still think it's the best run of Deadpool ever. Yeah, don't get me wrong. Dude's a fantastic character writer and I tend to enjoy his stuff. It's just that he has a tendency to write overly complicated Maguffin stories that my brain just glosses over and pays attention to everything else.
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Jul 22, 2014 04:56
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Gavok posted:I wrote up a thing on the 30 Best Thunderbolts Moments. Yes, there's a Daniel Way entry tossed in there. I'm not perfect. That's legit my favorite thing you've written to date. Shame on you for not mentioning Boomerang trying to score a threesome with Meteorite and Moonstone though.
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Jul 22, 2014 05:02
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Wendell posted:I was just joking about the last name because of how silly it was that a man with magnet powers was named Magnus at one point! Joker => Jack Napier The Riddler => Edward Nigma Mr Freeze => Victor Fries
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Jul 22, 2014 05:06
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One of these things is not like the others, one of these things isn't a DC Comics property.
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Jul 22, 2014 05:08
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Rhyno posted:That's legit my favorite thing you've written to date. Thank you. quote:Shame on you for not mentioning Boomerang trying to score a threesome with Meteorite and Moonstone though. That was pretty fantastic. Especially because they had been building up a Boomerang/Moonstone romance and the moment he made his move, it was never mentioned again.
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Jul 22, 2014 05:12
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Gavok posted:That was pretty fantastic. Especially because they had been building up a Boomerang/Moonstone romance and the moment he made his move, it was never mentioned again. Well how would you react if the dude who's been charming you tried to hook up with you and your younger self at the same time? Maybe you should amend the article with 10 honorable mentions?
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Jul 22, 2014 05:19
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"A pig coughed and you fell out." is one of my favourite comic lines ever. 
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Jul 22, 2014 05:36
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At what point in the comic books did Magneto and Xavier become old friends? In the earliest X-Men books, there is no mention of any prior relationship.
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Jul 22, 2014 05:51
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Baron Bifford posted:At what point in the comic books did Magneto and Xavier become old friends? In the earliest X-Men books, there is no mention of any prior relationship. Claremont's run around 165 or so. There's a whole issue detailing how they met. I think that's where it starts, but I know we see them together when Charles gets crippled by space Satan before that.
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Jul 22, 2014 06:00
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Did Magneto first take over Genosha in the X-Men cartoon or in the comics?
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Jul 22, 2014 07:10
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Thinking on it, I believe Magneto was first referred to as "Erik Lensherr" in X-Men Unlimited #3, which served as a prologue/lead-in to the Fatal Attractions event.
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Baron Bifford posted:Poison Ivy => Pamela Isely Like the Magnus thing I'm pretty sure they eventually retconned that Edward Nigma isn't actually his real name.
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Jul 22, 2014 09:53
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The Max Eisendhart has to be the most pointless retcon ever. Sorry, second to the "She-Hulk didn't sleep with Juggernaut" retcon.
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Jul 22, 2014 10:32
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Rhyno posted:Well Mags was first wasn't he? That's the best part of Erik the Red. The first person to use the costume was Cyclops.
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muscles like this? posted:Like the Magnus thing I'm pretty sure they eventually retconned that Edward Nigma isn't actually his real name. Obviously it's silly when the person gets powers thematic with their name like Mr. Freeze or Captain Atom, but sometimes the idea is the character chose their hero/villain name based on their real name. Jubilee, Steel, Crossfire, etc.
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Jul 22, 2014 13:54
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Baron Bifford posted:Poison Ivy => Pamela Isely I thought Joker had no real name and pretty much every one we've been given was a pseudonym. And shame on you for leaving out his highly original "Joseph Kerr."
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Jul 22, 2014 13:57
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Don't forget the Spot or whatever his name is, a teleported named Telfred Porter. Marvel character.
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Jul 22, 2014 13:58
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SilverSupernova posted:I thought Joker had no real name and pretty much every one we've been given was a pseudonym. Jack Napier's from the movie.
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Jul 22, 2014 14:01
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irlZaphod posted:The Max Eisendhart has to be the most pointless retcon ever.
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Jul 22, 2014 14:09
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Rubiks Pubes posted:Don't forget the Spot or whatever his name is, a teleported named Telfred Porter. Marvel character. I like the Golden Age JSA/Silver Age JLA enemy the Wizard, whose real name is something like William I. Zard.
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Gavok posted:I wrote up a thing on the 30 Best Thunderbolts Moments. Yes, there's a Daniel Way entry tossed in there. I'm not perfect. That was a really good list and makes me want to read some of the older Thunderbolts stuff. I would've added that Civil War T-Bolts issue where Zemo gives him a treasure chest of WWII nostalgia including his original SHIELD.
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Jul 22, 2014 15:11
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Rubiks Pubes posted:Don't forget the Spot or whatever his name is, a teleported named Telfred Porter. Marvel character. He's "The Vanisher" from way back in X-Men #2. He was used as recently as Second Coming I believe.
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Jul 22, 2014 15:28
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Gavok posted:I wrote up a thing on the 30 Best Thunderbolts Moments. Yes, there's a Daniel Way entry tossed in there. I'm not perfect.
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I'm sad that's no love for the issue where the New Avengers get attacked by the Thunderbolts as a message from the government while Joystick sneaks into Avengers Tower and gets her rear end kicked but manages to steal their files or something like that. I really liked the idea and way that played out. It was one of the better Hero vs Hero things at the time.
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IUG posted:He's "The Vanisher" from way back in X-Men #2. He was used as recently as Second Coming I believe. Didn't XForce use him for a while?
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Nevvy Z posted:Didn't XForce use him for a while? Yeah, but he was killed when all the other teleporters were slain. It was part of the plan to isolate them on the Utopia island, seal them in a barrier, and flood the place with nimrods. I remember a big scene of him trying to escape his fate.
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I was glad when he died. Didn't know the guy outside of X-Force but c'mon. Telford Porter. Whoever came up with that one probably felt smug all drat week. Magneto will always be Erik Lehnsherr to me. It's the only one that isn't stupid (this was for the two people who didn't know Eisen means "iron" in German).
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Diet Poison posted:I was glad when he died. Didn't know the guy outside of X-Force but c'mon. Telford Porter. Whoever came up with that one probably felt smug all drat week. It sounds like a Stan Lee name and when isn't he smug?
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bobkatt013 posted:It sounds like a Stan Lee name and when isn't he smug? Speaking of Magneto, how long can Marvel keep saying he was a survivor of the Nazi Holocaust? He's bloody old yet, aside from his hair, he's fit as a fiddle and totally jacked. Unless Marvel adds biological immortality to his list of mutant powers, they should revise his origin story. I think they should rewrite him as a survivor of the ethnic cleansings that occurred during the Balkan civil wars of the 1990s. Make him a Bosnian or a Serb. That was the most recent episode of genocide in Europe AFAIK. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Baron Bifford posted:Speaking of Magneto, how long can Marvel keep saying he was a survivor of the Nazi Holocaust? He's bloody old yet, aside from his hair, he's fit as a fiddle and totally jacked. Unless Marvel adds biological immortality to his list of mutant powers, they should revise his origin story. I think they should rewrite him as a survivor of the ethnic cleansings that occurred during the Balkan civil wars of the 1990s. Make him a Bosnian or a Serb. That was the most recent episode of genocide in Europe AFAIK. Hasn't he been killed then resurrected a couple time? I think he got de-aged recently.
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MH Knights posted:Hasn't he been killed then resurrected a couple time? I think he got de-aged recently.
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He was deaged yep. Though eventually they'll have to explain how he was like 80 and had kids before getting deaged. Unless they just say his powers made him age slowly.
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bobkatt013 posted:It sounds like a Stan Lee name and when isn't he smug? He prefers names that start with the same letter. Bruce Banner, Peter Parker, et al.
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Codependent Poster posted:He was deaged yep. Though eventually they'll have to explain how he was like 80 and had kids before getting deaged. Unless they just say his powers made him age slowly. They did that for Sebastian Shaw in the movie. Lots of mutants have incidental immortality.
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They could even go as far as to say that just by virtue of being X-Gene positive you age slower and have something like a 150% expected lifespan. Of course, that would raise more questions for people like Tony Stark and J. Jonah Jameson who have no reason to not be old as gently caress/dead by now even if Magneto does. Whoops.
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Diet Poison posted:They could even go as far as to say that just by virtue of being X-Gene positive you age slower and have something like a 150% expected lifespan. Why would Tony? They changed his to Afghanistan and there will always be wars there.
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irlZaphod posted:The Max Eisendhart has to be the most pointless retcon ever. To be fair, the series where it came about (Magneto: Testament series by Greg Pakk and Carmine Di Giandomenico) is so well researched that it makes sense in context. ( I think part of his reason for doing it was that Leshner wasn't even a real name, but a quick Google search proves that is wrong.) It also tied it all into an actual historical escape attempt from Auschwitz.
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Rubiks Pubes posted:Don't forget the Spot or whatever his name is, a teleported named Telfred Porter. Marvel character. The Spot's real name is a much better, subtler pun. His name is Jonathan Ohnn.
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