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Queen_Combat: Jan 15, 2011

Anphear posted:

130 times less 'deadly' than smoking.

3667 per year die due to mesothelioma each year in the United States which is 0.02 of all cancers.

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including an estimated 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.1 This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day

While it terrible stuff and should have been removed long ago, as long as it remains fairly solid its not a big hassle.

You have to factor in exposure before you can say something is more or less deadly. If 1000 people a year smoke and 20 of them develop cancer, and ten people are exposed to asbestos dust and one develops cancer, you still can't say that smoking is 20 times deadlier.

Smoking is still horrible, and may be nite dangerous per exposure (i don't have numbers in front of me), but the way you presented your statistics bugged me a bit.

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Jul 22, 2014

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# ? May 31, 2024 07:31

CAT INTERCEPTOR: Nov 9, 2004; Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Anphear posted:

130 times less 'deadly' than smoking.

3667 per year die due to mesothelioma each year in the United States which is 0.02 of all cancers.

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including an estimated 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.1 This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day

While it terrible stuff and should have been removed long ago, as long as it remains fairly solid its not a big hassle.

Ummm... "deadly" doesnt work like that. There's a drat sight fewer people exposed to asbestos but it is much more lethal if the fibres get into your lungs and it gets going. Mesothelioma basically is a death sentance, it's just not able to be treated well. The exposure time needed is also much lower than smoking - 1 to 3 months for Asbestos, smoking is many years (And even if you are a 20 year smoker, quit and you can most likely dodge the ill effects. You get exposed to asbestos, you can be just plain A-Class hosed, there is no known safe exposure. The risk of mesothelioma is also linear in relation to your exposure)

Why do you think it's treated like a unstable bomb? This poo poo is seriously dangerous and really is a hosed up way to die.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 12:46

kastein: Aug 31, 2011; Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Yeah, the worst part is that there's no known safe exposure level, some people have gotten asbestosis/mesothelioma after one exposure, others have gone 40 years exposed to it occupationally without significant ill effects.

BTW, there are worse things than asbestos. Like, say, chromates, and hexavalent chromium ions. Chromates are something like 11 times the carcinogenic potential of asbestos depending on who you ask... and you are exposed to them if you grind or weld chromate coated bolts or other hardware.

So don't weld grade 8 is what I'm saying.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 14:01

Super Aggro Crag: Apr 23, 2008; And, of course as always, kill Hitler.

Kastein and I are practically half asbestos half human at this point.

Also, shoutout to this building for being double sheetrocked with plywood behind it. I'm trying to cut out holes in the walls for outlets and what should take 5 minutes each is taking 15 now. PITA hospital. At least there are mad hot nurses walking around.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 14:09

bandman: Mar 17, 2008

BigHouseOfBooty posted:

My workplace is choke full of asbestos insulation. I can see they are slowly getting rid off parts of it but good lord man it's 2014, that should of been done eons ago. How deadly is this stuff really?

it's a hospital

Hi! It's your friendly neighborhood Environmental, Health, and Safety Specialist here again to inform and educate!

For those that don't know, asbestos is a family of naturally occurring minerals that have long, thin fibrous crystals. It is a fantastically useful material, in that it is cheap to produce, mostly inert, and a great insulator. The downside is that exposure to airborne asbestos particles can result in one of the more horrible cancers, mesothelioma. That's cancer of the mesothelium, which is the lining of your lungs and chest cavity. Yeah.

In buildings, it is most commonly found in floor tiles, ceiling tiles, pipe insulation, putty and mastic, drywall joint filler compound, and stucco. If you see an older house with siding that looks like shingles but obviously isn't made of wood, that's transite siding and it's full of asbestos. That same house probably has transite shingles on the roof too.

STR is absolutely correct in that it is only dangerous once it is made friable. Unless you have an angle grinder or something, it is extremely hard to make the asbestos from floor tiles friable, so it's not a big concern. Same for transite siding (don't rip it off the house and break the tiles...). Most asbestos will be contained within mastics, glues, or other compounds, so unless those get brittle or broken, they won't hurt you. The problem is that on things like pipe insulation and drywall joint compound, they do get brittle and are easily made friable, so they have to be removed and disposed of appropriately. That can get really expensive in a hurry.

Your best bet when purchasing an older building for a commercial use (like a model train museum) is to call an environmental consulting firm and have them do an asbestos assessment. If you want to cover all of your bases, have them do a Phase I Environmental Site Assessment on the property as well. A Phase I will assess the potential for environmental issues arising from past and present uses of the property and surrounding properties, like soil/groundwater contamination, vapor intrusion, Superfund site next door, etc. If you purchase a piece of property before doing a Phase I and contamination is found coming from your property, you are on the hook for all of the cleanup. If there is a potential for contamination of some sort based on the information gathered for the Phase I, whoever wrote the report will recommend a Phase II, which is where they poke holes in the ground and actually see what's there. A Phase I will run you about $2500, maybe less, but don't go for the cheapest company. I've reviewed some Phase Is that were done on the cheap (under $1600) and they missed huge, glaring issues that could put the new buyer in a very bad situation. You get what you pay for with environmental work. A Phase II will generally start around $6000 and could go upwards of $30k, depending on the size of the property and how involved the sampling is. If a Phase I identifies any issues, you could use that as leverage for negotiating a lower price, but I would cut bait and find a different property. There are plenty of other fish in the sea that don't smell like gasoline and aren't chock-full of lead.

edit: If your dad decides to get a Phase I (and I HIGHLY recommend it with all commercial properties) one company to call would be Cardno ATC. They aren't the best in the business, but they do lots of these Phase Is without being a bargain-basement Phase I mill, so their data will generally be reliable. They also have an office in Dayton, which is only an hour and a half south.

bandman fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jul 22, 2014

# ? Jul 22, 2014 15:32

Throatwarbler: Nov 17, 2008; by vyelkin

Nowhere else to put this

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140721/LEGALFILE/307219975/selling-vehicles-for-export-angers-automakers-but-is-it-illegal

quote:

When U.S. Secret Service agents showed up at Jaguar Land Rover Cincinnati, a customer wearing a T-shirt and shorts who claimed to be a wealthy energy broker was about to buy a Range Rover with a cashier's check for $93,005.

The agents watched the deal close, then followed the buyer to his home. There, they learned he was unemployed and lived with his mother, court documents show.

The man was buying the Range Rover for a company called Automotive Consultants of Hollywood. He was to leave it at a storage yard a few days later in exchange for $500. Had the agents not seized the SUV, they say, it was destined for a buyer in China who didn't want to pay the marked-up prices at Land Rover dealerships there.

Authorities, who say these types of transactions happen frequently, began working last year to stop the increasing flow of high-end cars overseas. But they've run into a significant obstacle: What the exporters are doing may not be illegal -- even if the government and the automakers don't like it, and even if so-called straw buyers are sometimes deceptive.

Most automakers prohibit sales to exporters and have charged dealers who violate the bans more than $30 million in recent years, according to court testimony.

"What they're complaining about is competition," said Ely Goldin, a Pennsylvania lawyer representing several exporters that have had property seized. "Why should somebody who goes into a dealership and pays top dollar for a car be legally prohibited from selling the car to whoever they want to sell it to?"

The Secret Service, customs agents and authorities in at least 11 states have been cracking down on export operations but with relatively little to show for their efforts.

They experienced a big setback in April, when a federal judge in Ohio ordered the government to return the Range Rover, a $64,000 Porsche Cayenne and $1.2 million in cash it had taken from Automotive Consultants of Hollywood. The judge, Sandra Beckwith, said prosecutors failed to provide enough evidence that the company had broken any laws. Because the vehicles were fully paid for, Beckwith also was skeptical that the dealerships, which prosecutors were portraying as victims, had suffered a loss.

Arbitrage opportunity

One thing is certain: Exporting cars to China can be extremely lucrative, even considering the cost of obtaining and shipping them. That's because many automakers set their Chinese sticker prices at double or triple what U.S. buyers pay. A BMW X6, for example, starts at $61,900 at U.S. dealerships but 1.06 million yuan, or $171,000, in China.

Thus, exporters say they are merely enjoying the benefits of a free market and the arbitrage opportunities that high prices and demand in China create.

"What you have is the federal government protecting foreign manufacturers' profit margins," said Josh Widlansky, a Florida lawyer representing Automotive Consultants of Hollywood, which says it locates vehicles for overseas clients but does not actually export any vehicles itself. "You have totally noncriminal conduct that the government is criminalizing because of these private contracts between the manufacturers and the dealerships."

"What you have is the federal government protecting foreign manufacturers' profit margins."
Josh Widlansky
Florida attorney
For dealers, exporting represents a mixed bag. Sales to exporters are often easy, fast transactions at sticker price. But those who knowingly sell to exporters -- or don't do enough to screen them out, even at the risk of missing their end-of-month target -- can face severe consequences from the factory. These include monetary penalties known as chargebacks, the loss of future inventory or even termination of their franchise.

BMW, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz and Porsche -- four of exporters' most-favored brands -- penalized their U.S. dealers with chargebacks totaling $30.4 million from 2008 through 2013, Secret Service Agent Morgan Morgan, who investigated the Ohio case, said during a March court hearing. Land Rover accounted for $5.6 million of that amount.

Big business

The automakers estimated their losses to be about five times the penalties they have levied, Morgan testified. And that may be a conservative figure.

One company, Efans Trading Corp., was involved in the export of 2,000 high-end vehicles worth more than $80 million to be exported to China in 2012. Efans expected to do 3,000 vehicles last year, Morgan said, before the government seized millions of dollars from its accounts and dozens of the vehicles.

Automakers maintain lists of known exporters and bar their dealerships from doing business with them. But beyond checking that list, many dealers say they have few ways to separate straw buyers from legitimate customers whom they don't want to turn down.

Goldin, the Pennsylvania lawyer, said he is certain that some dealers knowingly deal with exporters to boost their sales numbers, then claim they were duped if audited by the factory.

At another Cincinnati dealership, Joseph Porsche of Kings Automall, one salesman sold cars to nine out-of-state buyers recommended by one man who now appears on Porsche's list of exporters, according to court documents. All of the buyers paid with cashier's checks.

Porsche has issued $4,800 in chargebacks against the dealership, Morgan said, including $600 related to those nine cars, five of which were located later in China. The store's general manager, Bill Winstel, declined to comment.

Mercedes-Benz GL63

New penalties

Automakers' policies for dealing with dealerships that sell to exporters vary. Porsche issues a chargeback beginning only with a dealership's third such sale in a given year, Morgan said.

BMW and Land Rover each sent lengthy letters to their U.S. dealers in recent months outlining more stringent penalties for selling to exporters. The BMW letter, obtained by Automotive News, says dealerships linked to exported vehicles could forfeit bonuses and future vehicle allocations if they can't demonstrate adequate due diligence. Even the first violation could be grounds for franchise termination if the circumstances are particularly egregious, BMW of North America CFO Stefan Sengewald warned.

"This practice is a serious violation of BMW center agreements," Sengewald wrote. He said authorities are investigating, among other allegations, "potential bribery or kickback schemes involving sales by BMW center personnel." "Center" is the BMW term for a dealership.

The letter also listed a series of warning signs that dealers should watch for in a potential buyer, such as traveling from far away to buy a specific model or paying in cash with no trade-in and no test drive. It says BMW could distribute fewer X5s and X6s to North America if many of them end up in China, where they are especially popular.

Spotting straw buyers
BMW has told its U.S. dealers that these red flags could indicate a customer is buying on behalf of an exporter.
� BMW X5 or X6 with 3.5-liter engine
� Payment with cash or bank cashier's check
� No down payment; credit card in a different name; or credit-card number provided without presenting the card
� No trade-in and no test drive
� Traveling a great distance because �you have the exact model I'm looking for�
� Student purchasers
� Same address as someone else on the exporter list
� Requesting a build sheet
� Getting minimal insurance
� Purchases at other stores
� Irritable and evasive when asked to sign a non-export agreement

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman has been investigating BMW, Land Rover, Mercedes and Porsche dealerships around New York City for months. A spokeswoman for Schneiderman's office said the investigation was ongoing and no charges have been filed.

One dealership group, Prestige Motors, fired or suspended about six executives in connection with the investigation in April, The New York Times reported then. A spokeswoman for the group, whose nine locations include BMW, Mercedes and Land Rover stores in New Jersey, said the company doesn't publicly discuss personnel matters but "does not condone export transactions." She said the letter BMW sent to its dealerships was not related to any known allegations against Prestige BMW.

Few criminal cases

Most of the cases against exporters have come in the form of civil lawsuits filed by the government rather than criminal charges. The criminal cases generally have involved ancillary activities such as identity theft or tax evasion. Two men pleaded guilty in New Hampshire last year to charges of mail fraud.

Lawyers for exporters say the lack of criminal charges relative to the number of allegations authorities are making shows that the business model is fundamentally legal. Widlansky, the Florida lawyer, said exporting should be a matter between automakers and their dealers, or between dealers and customers who violate the no-export agreements that are a routine part of many luxury-car transactions. Some dealers have sued straw buyers after being penalized by a manufacturer.

At Jaguar Land Rover Cincinnati, Morgan said, the general manager, Rich Allen, was "ecstatic" to get government help in deterring exports, according to a hearing transcript. Allen told the agent his dealership receives and rejects one to three inquiries from exporter suspects per week and could sell its entire inventory in one week if it did not screen out exporters.

Morgan said the dealership has limited inventory and wants to sell to buyers who will return for service work. Allen did not respond to a request for comment from Automotive News.

Chinese prices partly reflect hefty taxes and 25 percent tariffs on imported vehicles. But a report last year from Bernstein Research found that prices on several models were an average of 37 percent higher in China even after accounting for the extra costs. When Tesla Motors began selling its Model S in China, it took the unusual step of charging the same price as in the United States, plus a $3,600 shipping charge, $17,700 in value-added tax and $19,000 in duties and other taxes.

"We know that our competitors will try to convince Chinese consumers that our relatively lower price tag means the Model S is a lesser car," Tesla wrote on its blog, "when the real reason their car costs more is that they make double the profit per car in China compared to the United States or Europe."

Automakers argue that the vehicles they sell in one market are not designed to be transported elsewhere. They say cars sold in the United States can have problems with lower-octane Chinese fuel, for example, and that servicing those vehicles under warranty costs them more money. They also say they can't reach owners in case of a recall.

Beckwith, the Ohio judge, seemed unconvinced. "These nebulous issues aside," she wrote, "it appears to the Court that the primary concern of the manufacturers is guarding their foreign market profits from competition."-is-it-illegal

Apparently BMW's nonsense naming/engine displacement scheme is some kind of trap to expose straw buyers. :v:

:v:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 16:16

Human Grand Prix: Jan 24, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Powershift posted:

They get them, but the basic thought is that japan was picked clean of all the good ones by australia and canada. There are a lot of super haggard GTRs rotting away in canada.

The great ones stayed there, the decent ones went to AUS/NZ/UK/Hong Kong when legal, the ones that were in fair to poor shape went to Canada, the US gets the haggard half-destroyed ones that have experienced 1000 lapping days and were bought from breaking yards in Kagoshima.

Seriously, the amount of poo poo condition GT-Rs here is staggering. I would not recommend any Americans buy an Ontario or Quebec owned GT-R, you might have better luck out west. Maybe.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 19:01

Nodoze: Aug 17, 2006; If it's only for a night I can live without you

Still worth getting one IMO

# ? Jul 22, 2014 19:08

randomidiot: May 12, 2006; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 11 years!)

gently caress it, might as well bare my soul. Did it on reddit anyway.

Drinking poo poo is way out of control, enough that I need inpatient detox (this sounds familiar). I'm waiting for the place that I spent 30 days at several years ago to call me back about my insurance and upfront costs. If that doesn't work out, have a couple of other calls out to other inpatient places.

This time, my insurance very much does cover inpatient detox and rehab, it's just a matter of seeing how much of an upfront payment they want, and figuring out how I'm gonna get there.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 19:34

Cage: Jul 17, 2003; www.revivethedrive.org

Drinking poo poo? Good for you, you don't want to mess with jenkum, man.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:19

OBAMNA PHONE: Aug 7, 2002

How good/bad are Acura TSX's? I'm looking to spend under 10k for a 4 door daily driver with a stick

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=376130605

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:29

driguy: Feb 16, 2009; In The Pit!

some texas redneck posted:

gently caress it, might as well bare my soul. Did it on reddit anyway.

Drinking poo poo is way out of control, enough that I need inpatient detox (this sounds familiar). I'm waiting for the place that I spent 30 days at several years ago to call me back about my insurance and upfront costs. If that doesn't work out, have a couple of other calls out to other inpatient places.

This time, my insurance very much does cover inpatient detox and rehab, it's just a matter of seeing how much of an upfront payment they want, and figuring out how I'm gonna get there.

STR, I hope you pull through, dude. Been there done that and it sucks. Be safe. : :glomp:

:glomp:

:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:37

randomidiot: May 12, 2006; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 11 years!)

Hospital said oh hell no to the blood pressure, sitting in the ER. see you guys in a week or so I guess.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:41

The Midniter: Jul 9, 2001

some texas redneck posted:

gently caress it, might as well bare my soul. Did it on reddit anyway.

Drinking poo poo is way out of control, enough that I need inpatient detox (this sounds familiar). I'm waiting for the place that I spent 30 days at several years ago to call me back about my insurance and upfront costs. If that doesn't work out, have a couple of other calls out to other inpatient places.

This time, my insurance very much does cover inpatient detox and rehab, it's just a matter of seeing how much of an upfront payment they want, and figuring out how I'm gonna get there.

Good luck man.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:42

trouser chili: Mar 27, 2002; Unnngggggghhhhh

BraveUlysses posted:

How good/bad are Acura TSX's? I'm looking to spend under 10k for a 4 door daily driver with a stick

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=376130605

They're somewhat known for timing chain stretching issues, this is typically caused by excessive oil consumption issues that are left unchecked. The only other common issue I know of is door lock failure. This is typically caused by the master door lock mechanism (in the driver's door) failing. It's not terribly expensive, but a bit of a pain to replace. Dealers will typically state all door lock mechanisms need to be replaced when this problem is encountered, but typically you only actually need the driver's door unit.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:46

InitialDave: Jun 14, 2007; I Want To Believe.

some texas redneck posted:

gently caress it, might as well bare my soul. Did it on reddit anyway.

Drinking poo poo is way out of control, enough that I need inpatient detox (this sounds familiar). I'm waiting for the place that I spent 30 days at several years ago to call me back about my insurance and upfront costs. If that doesn't work out, have a couple of other calls out to other inpatient places.

This time, my insurance very much does cover inpatient detox and rehab, it's just a matter of seeing how much of an upfront payment they want, and figuring out how I'm gonna get there.

I'm not one to give someone poo poo for their mistakes, or choices in life in general, but really? loving Reddit? Stay off that poo poo, man.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:57

bend: Dec 31, 2012

some texas redneck posted:

gently caress it, might as well bare my soul. Did it on reddit anyway.

Drinking poo poo is way out of control, enough that I need inpatient detox (this sounds familiar). I'm waiting for the place that I spent 30 days at several years ago to call me back about my insurance and upfront costs. If that doesn't work out, have a couple of other calls out to other inpatient places.

This time, my insurance very much does cover inpatient detox and rehab, it's just a matter of seeing how much of an upfront payment they want, and figuring out how I'm gonna get there.

Good luck man, hope you go alright.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 20:59

randomidiot: May 12, 2006; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 11 years!)

Well, sitting in the ER with 170/120 and a pulse of 150. Things are off to a fantastic start, right? :haw:

:haw:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 21:01

Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

Take it easy, eh? You need to be posting on SA for at least another decade

# ? Jul 22, 2014 21:06

freelop: Apr 28, 2013; Where we're going, we won't need fries to see

Get well soon STR

# ? Jul 22, 2014 21:18

NitroSpazzz: Dec 9, 2006; You don't need style when you've got strength!

some texas redneck posted:

Well, sitting in the ER with 170/120 and a pulse of 150. Things are off to a fantastic start, right?

drat man take care of yourself. Hope everything works out ok and you get things figured out.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 21:55

Applebees Appetizer: Jan 23, 2006

Put a test pipe on the Miata to replace the cat and now it's leaking even though I used new gaskets and "flange sealant" (like Hylomar) for the job.....Maybe shoulda used RTV instead? gently caress.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 22:57

the spyder: Feb 18, 2011

Ultracopper is your friend.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 23:00

Applebees Appetizer: Jan 23, 2006

Cool, thanks. Now I gotta clean all this other poo poo off god dammit.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 23:10

randomidiot: May 12, 2006; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 11 years!)

Still in the ER, with a banana bag and some iv Ativan so far. BP is a bit lower, but not as low as they want.

Now if they'd just uncouple me from all the machines so I could go pee... Or at least show me where the loving remote is for the TV. :argh:

:argh:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 23:12

Terrible Robot: Jul 2, 2010; FRIED CHICKEN; Slippery Tilde

some texas redneck posted:

Well, sitting in the ER with 170/120 and a pulse of 150. Things are off to a fantastic start, right?

drat man, I hope you feel better, good luck.

High blood pressure runs in my family, and as I've gotten older I've noticed that mine isn't as great as it once was. Gonna have to start giving up late night burgers :smith:

:smith:

# ? Jul 22, 2014 23:19

Applebees Appetizer: Jan 23, 2006

some texas redneck posted:

Still in the ER, with a banana bag and some iv Ativan so far. BP is a bit lower, but not as low as they want.

Now if they'd just uncouple me from all the machines so I could go pee... Or at least show me where the loving remote is for the TV.

'Sup ER buddy, I was just there because my entire body went numb and I thought I was going to die! And they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me so they sent me home. Boy that made me feel better! gently caress the VA is all I gotta say.

Get well, STR.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 23:23

mariooncrack: Dec 27, 2008

some texas redneck posted:

Well, sitting in the ER with 170/120 and a pulse of 150. Things are off to a fantastic start, right?

I was in a similar situation almost 2 years ago. It was a real wake up call to change my eating habits and overall lifestyle. I hope things workout well for you.

# ? Jul 22, 2014 23:40

meatpimp: May 15, 2004; Psst -- Wanna buy

EVERYWHERE
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

What is it about rental cars that makes me want to beat the ever-loving piss out of them?

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:07

bandman: Mar 17, 2008

meatpimp posted:

What is it about rental cars that makes me want to beat the ever-loving piss out of them?

It isn't yours, so who gives a gently caress if you redline it and do neutral drops at every stoplight and use the throttle like an on/off switch. If you break something, it's not your problem.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:15

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

I don't drive rental cars any harder than i drive my own vehicles, because i'm respectful :colbert:

:colbert:

Or because i beat on my own poo poo and it's not possible to drive them any harder, one of the two.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:18

LloydDobler: Oct 15, 2005; You shared it with a dick.

It's in the rules. Like anything loose or removable in the interior should be out the window before leaving the parking lot.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:28

Viper_3000: Apr 26, 2005; I could give a shit about all that.

some texas redneck posted:

Still in the ER, with a banana bag and some iv Ativan so far. BP is a bit lower, but not as low as they want.

Now if they'd just uncouple me from all the machines so I could go pee... Or at least show me where the loving remote is for the TV.

Jesus christ dude, get better/take care of yourself when you get out.

Protip: TV remote is normally plugged into the wall next to your bed somewhere along the headboard side or the controls are on the siderails of the bed.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 00:45

angryhampster: Oct 21, 2005

some texas redneck posted:

Well, sitting in the ER with 170/120 and a pulse of 150. Things are off to a fantastic start, right?

Jesus christ those are scary numbers. Take care man

# ? Jul 23, 2014 01:35

randomidiot: May 12, 2006; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 11 years!)

Surprisingly, I was sent home after a few mg of Ativan. Apparently what my insurance company says they'll pay for isn't stuff they actually cover, who'da thought?!

But have appointments made for intensive outpatient therapy, and enough benzos to knock down a horse. The interesting part will be getting between home and IOP.. on benzos.. without a car (which is still at the hospital, for some bizarre reason they didn't want to let someone with 4mg Ativan straight into an IV drive himself home).

The high BP was due to the withdrawal, btw. It was still a little high when I left, but down to a more acceptable 140/85 (after a few rounds of Ativan).

# ? Jul 23, 2014 03:42

CAT INTERCEPTOR: Nov 9, 2004; Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

bandman posted:

It isn't yours, so who gives a gently caress if you redline it and do neutral drops at every stoplight and use the throttle like an on/off switch. If you break something, it's not your problem.

Please tell me that aint your real opinion.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 03:53

Fender Anarchist: May 20, 2009; Fender Anarchist

Let's rephrase: It's not yours or an individual person's, therefore gently caress it.

Other peoples' stuff deserves respect just as your own does, but big rental companies can eat a dick.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 04:01

Queen_Combat: Jan 15, 2011

Heh, if you were in Phoenix, you'd be one of my transports tonight. Ambulance IF (interfacility) all night every night.

Except last night :v:

:v:

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jul 23, 2014

# ? Jul 23, 2014 04:17

SUSE Creamcheese: Apr 11, 2007

Be well and take care STR.

# ? Jul 23, 2014 04:20

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# ? May 31, 2024 07:31

CAT INTERCEPTOR: Nov 9, 2004; Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Fucknag posted:

Let's rephrase: It's not yours or an individual person's, therefore gently caress it.

Other peoples' stuff deserves respect just as your own does, but big rental companies can eat a dick.

No, people who abuse properly just because it's DA MAN's or some other utter inexcusable rubbish are fuckwits. That kind of attitude is exactly the same attitude vandals use

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