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Clean climb from Nibali, just a natural talent finally allowed to express himself with Froome dropping out due to fake injuries (fear of AICAR testing).
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Jul 24, 2014 16:39
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The only times quicker than his were all from before 2000. Most from 1994-96
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Jul 24, 2014 16:40
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Hegay posted:6.09 according to tweets Well that's nothing after all, gotta hate this microdosing era  Riis with his 60%+ hematocrit going 12 percent faster 
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serious gaylord posted:The only times quicker than his were all from before 2000. Most from 1994-96 Not sure if serious...
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Jul 24, 2014 16:42
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Hegay posted:Not sure if serious... I'm afraid he's the quickest rider up that mountain since the notorious years Hegav. Its a sad day for cycling that we're back to those dark times.
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Jul 24, 2014 16:48
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 It's true, 26th time on Hautacam for Nibali but the last time the tour finished in Hautacam was 2008, before that 2000.
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Jul 24, 2014 16:54
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serious gaylord posted:I'm afraid he's the quickest rider up that mountain since the notorious years Hegav. Its a sad day for cycling that we're back to those dark times. Way to miss the big picture. Did you miss the part where a talentless gently caress like Brarne Riis went 12% faster (6,84 w/kg) than Nibali (6,09 w/kg)? Not even the same loving ballpark.
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Jul 24, 2014 16:55
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Nibali climbed Hautacam faster than the 2008 tour, I don't see how that says anything about doping. The Riccardo Ricco attacking is more suspicious than his usual but it's not like Nibali was a domestique losing cat 2 races in 2010.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:01
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Bolivar posted:Way to miss the big picture. Did you miss the part where a talentless gently caress like Brarne Riis went 12% faster (6,84 w/kg) than Nibali (6,09 w/kg)? Not even the same loving ballpark. Ah yes, he went a little bit slower than some of the most notoriously doped to the gills riders of all time. He's clean. My mistake.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:07
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Andy Schleck is about to pop for Bio passport rumors are saying. Lol that it punishes you for riding clean. Froome has to be making GBS threads himself, Wiggins has already accepted his fate. The axe is coming.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:11
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There are literal French riders on the podium of the Tour. Dark clouds are forming. End times are near. Hold me
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Jul 24, 2014 17:15
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African AIDS cum posted:Andy Schleck is about to pop for Bio passport rumors are saying. Lol that it punishes you for riding clean. Froome has to be making GBS threads himself, Wiggins has already accepted his fate. The axe is coming. How can Fat Andy be giving dodgy bio passports? Do they check for burger consumption?
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Jul 24, 2014 17:16
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serious gaylord posted:How can Fat Andy be giving dodgy bio passports? Do they check for burger consumption? Drop in levels since 08 when he was riding high and mighty now he's gone clean and its confirmed he was doping then. Boom roasted. Bio passport encourages lifelong doping now.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:18
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African AIDS cum posted:Drop in levels since 08 when he was riding high and mighty now he's gone clean and its confirmed he was doping then. Boom roasted. Bio passport encourages lifelong doping now. Explains Wiggins 'retirement' rumours after the commonwealth games.
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Jul 24, 2014 17:21
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African AIDS cum posted:Drop in levels since 08 when he was riding high and mighty now he's gone clean and its confirmed he was doping then. Boom roasted. Bio passport encourages lifelong doping now. I was thinking about this exact scenario the other day. Can't really think of a good solution either. Getting banned for riding clean might just be the way cyclists end their careers from now on. Anyway, pretty OK stage if only for Valverde crumbling off the podium. I hope both Frenchmen hang in there somehow, that would own. Oh and if anyone's got gifs of The Great Voeckler Crack of 2014, I'm all ears (eyes)
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Jul 24, 2014 18:29
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Valverde doesnt deserve to even be in the top 10 he's a gormless rider.
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Jul 24, 2014 18:49
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Smirr posted:I was thinking about this exact scenario the other day. Can't really think of a good solution either. Getting banned for riding clean might just be the way cyclists end their careers from now on. Some sort of amnesty program like they offer to the losing army in a civil war might be one way to eliminate the incentive to dope forever. Except not a lot of guys are gunna want a) to admit,to doping in the past or b) quit doping.
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Jul 24, 2014 18:50
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TJ can probably get 2m7s on Bardet in the TT, so the final top five will be Nibali 1, Peraud/Valverde 2 and 3, Pinot 4, and TJ in 5th. Majka won the mountains jersey today; Bardet can't get 2m17s on Pinot so the latter gets White. Sagan has had Green locked up since the first week, so it seems like we're just watching for stage wins now (and I guess 2nd and 3rd place overall). I'm really annoyed at NBC showing the women's race on Universal Sports instead of NBC Sports. Now I can't watch La Course. What are they showing on the regular channel? A replay of the boring TT stage. 
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Stage 18 Pau / Hautacam          Spectator getting smacked EN - Summary - Stage 18 Full Results Stage 19 Maubourguet Pays du Val d'Adour / Bergerac 208.5km  Stage 19: by Pierrick Fedrigo Mountain passes & hills Km 195.5 - Côte de Monbazillac 1.3 km at 7.6% - category 4 Intermediate sprint  Finish  Weather Storms and rain Stage 19 odds  Time schedule Start : 12h25 Finish : 17h20
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Jul 24, 2014 19:17
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lol he really reminds me of Lukas Podolski, just with fewer thumbs
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Jul 24, 2014 19:21
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Rojas kicked from the Tour for drafting behind a team car. Apparently it was on the descent of the Tourmalet, which seems pretty unnecessary. Had to use Google Translate to make sense of it as I can't find any report in english yet - http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/2014/07/24/tour_francia/1406214841_859282.html
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Jul 24, 2014 19:59
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"Quitte à être prétentieux, ce n'était pas du grand Thomas aujourd'hui." --Thomas Voeckler (At the risk of sounding pretentious, it wasn't the great Thomas today) I LOVE him.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:14
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I hope he's back next year.
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Jul 24, 2014 21:26
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Bolivar posted:Way to miss the big picture. Did you miss the part where a talentless gently caress like Brarne Riis went 12% faster (6,84 w/kg) than Nibali (6,09 w/kg)? Not even the same loving ballpark. Then start adding in poo poo like the bikes / wheels / tyres are faster than when all those absurd times were done. Put Nibbles on a 1996 or even 2000 bike, he'll be a minute or more slower again.
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Jul 24, 2014 22:24
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What an awesome stage. Lol if you think Nibali is doping.
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Jul 24, 2014 22:43
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Cat Terrist posted:Then start adding in poo poo like the bikes / wheels / tyres are faster than when all those absurd times were done. Put Nibbles on a 1996 or even 2000 bike, he'll be a minute or more slower again. Yep, okay, you're absolutely right. Its the bike, totally the bike. Nothing to see here, move on people.
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Russian Bear posted:What an awesome stage. Lol if you think Nibali is doping. This is not an emptyquote. God drat can that guy ever accelerate.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:20
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Russian Bear posted:What an awesome stage. Lol if you think Nibali is doping. Of course he is lol
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Jul 24, 2014 23:28
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I assume he's doping, yes. Everyone is doping. It's not casting aspersions on him specifically. He's a good rider that I assume is doping.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:30
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I'm just disappointed at how bad everyone else is at doping.
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Jul 24, 2014 23:35
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serious gaylord posted:Yep, okay, you're absolutely right. Its the bike, totally the bike. Nothing to see here, move on people. And yet again you miss the point. There is nothing remarkable about what Nibbles is doing. quote:I assume he's doping, yes. Everyone is doping. It's not casting aspersions on him specifically. He's a good rider that I assume is doping. Every single professional sportsman dopes in some way (That's not to say all doping is illegal) but clearly this TdF has performances back in the "Yep, that's actually believeable" area so whatever the teams are doing (legal or illegal), it's not some sort of Team Sky jungle juice. It's probably about as clean as we're ever going to get and probably cleaner than any winner in the last 50 years outside of Cuddles.
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Cat Terrist posted:And yet again you miss the point. There is nothing remarkable about what Nibbles is doing. If you take out the times before 50% hematocrit was enforced only Armstrong remains with a better time. That's somewhat remarkable. serious gaylord posted:Yep, okay, you're absolutely right. Its the bike, totally the bike. Nothing to see here, move on people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaVcb0iTRFo&feature=youtu.be&t=1m26s
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Jul 25, 2014 02:24
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6.1 w/kg? I'm not impressed.
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Jul 25, 2014 03:26
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Must have been some hardcore drafting by Rojas for a DQ. Considering we watched Stybar (?) in Paris-Nice draft a team car for 20k and only get 2 minutes or something. Horners Saddle has to be the least used piece of equipment in the peloton.
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Jul 25, 2014 03:58
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I'd love to live in a world where Vino runs a clean team. Can you imagine.
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Jul 25, 2014 05:33
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Another thing to consider is that this stage was super short and the climb up Hautacam came after a long descent. 90s mountain stages were longer. Is he doping during the race? I doubt it. In training however..
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Russian Bear posted:Another thing to consider is that this stage was super short and the climb up Hautacam came after a long descent. 90s mountain stages were longer. Yeah that is fair, he isn't some no name popping up and destroying people Sky style. Deserving winner. Wish the race was closer but grand tours are too controlled these days for the most part. Need smaller teams.
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Cat Terrist posted:And yet again you miss the point. There is nothing remarkable about what Nibbles is doing. Everything you're saying now is exactly the same thing as what Armstrong supporters were saying. 'He's slower than the guys from Festina' 'The bikes have gotten quicker' 'Marginal gains'. Think about that for a second. If you honestly think the sport is now cleaner than it has been in the last 50 years theres honestly no point even continuing to talk about this.
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