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ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

"But I have to admit, only half."

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Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
Why do you think tunney writes love letters to the google management if not to secure her job there

THAT AINT GROW BACK
Sep 29, 2003
She's like Carlos Latuff in that the type of people she enthusiastically supports are the exact same people who would have her killed or imprisoned for being queer.

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien
I believe tht a war is coming, between techies and progressives

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

THAT AINT GROW BACK posted:

She's like Carlos Latuff in that the type of people she enthusiastically supports are the exact same people who would have her killed or imprisoned for being queer.

It's fun watching her interact with the NRx clowns on Twitter. Half of them engage with her and her ideas and the other half despise them for interacting with her, partly because she's queer and partly because she's even crazier than they are and makes them look bad by association.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
How many people has she hung. I want to know if the Republicans have let it in to their ranks yet or not.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

uber_stoat posted:

It's fun watching her interact with the NRx clowns on Twitter. Half of them engage with her and her ideas and the other half despise them for interacting with her, partly because she's queer and partly because she's even crazier than they are and makes them look bad by association.

Those types are the easiest to make fun of, even better when you can pretend to be a neonazi and then suggest that they would be the first sent to the camps.

Unknowable Hole
Feb 2, 2005


Pillbug

So is pooping in the street.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Gazpacho posted:

Why do you think tunney writes love letters to the google management if not to secure her job there

If you call love letters "Getting bent over and rear end hosed while reciting Atlas Shrugged"

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

Cat Terrist posted:

If you call love letters "Getting bent over and rear end hosed while reciting Atlas Shrugged"

I do

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

EXTREME INSERTION posted:

I am goign to shove her in a locker, and she will pop out as hitler

im sure this happened regularly on You Cant Do That on Television

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum
If superior genetics equals cutting your own dilz off I like being inferior

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Fandyien posted:

i like profoundly broken dorks who, in a desperate search to justify their arrogance, are reduced to citing "superior genetics" in their twitter slapfights. especially when they're obvious examples of non-viable genetics on account of being transgendered which sure as gently caress wouldn't hvae been conducive to survival in the grittier age they're so misinformed about, but also lust for

hi fandy how are you

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
she is not a fascist but she is every petit bourgeois who ever looked at a fascist and said "we need someone like that"

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000


lady have you even seen india lately

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum
what was its original name? Justin? Or something else like Matt? How did Justine become a name?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
there's so much poo poo wrong with this lady and gibbis zeroes in on her being trans? smdh

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Literally The Worst posted:

hi fandy how are you

pretty good, pretty blazed, how r u

also ive been reading some of this dark enlghtenment stuff, unsurprisingly they really dig hans herman hoppe lol



quote:

A Marxist attack on neoreactionaries ends with the sentence: “They’ve never role-played the part of the peasant.”

Funny that they should bring this up, because such a central focus of both Moldbug and neoreactionary thought in general is the systematic disenfranchisement of the Vaisya (blue collar workers, “flyover country” inhabitants) in favor of the Brahmin (university graduate progressives whose values come from Harvard). In general, Vaisya tend to be described by coastal yuppies as “white trash” and only mentioned with derision. Chances are, if you’re reading this, you and all your friends are Brahmin. The extreme split between upper and lower class whites was described by Charles Murray in Coming Apart.

Theden has an article that goes into the difference in more depth. In his writing, Moldbug refers to Vaisya as “the wrong kind of white people”. The goal of progressive whites (Brahmins) is to signal to themselves and everyone around them that they’re not the wrong kind of white people, but the right kind. Brahmins are the whites who are playfully mocked on the website Stuff White People Like, people who non-ironically love TED.

The world of the 19th century onwards has been controlled by the merchant class—as with so many important social changes, I believe this happened around the time of the French Revolution, maybe a decade after. Countries with the merchant class placed at the top of the social pyramid are generally called capitalist. The question is whether life for the poor, the peasants, is better under the merchant class or under the old aristocratic class. Brahmin values are merchant values.

In traditional societies, taking time off was a common thing:

block quote about peasants having it good

The capitalist system pushes us to work as hard as possible to increase our wealth and therefore our social status. In a world with less emphasis on tribes, community, and extended family, wealth has become the primary indicator of social status. Communists/socialists and libertarians/capitalists are equally obsessed with wealth, money, and their distribution, speaking of them as if they were the beginning and end of all human value, providing us not with just essentials for living but also the substance of social status and the arbiter of self-worth.

The traditional view of life places higher value on family and independent pursuits over “work” for the sake of work itself. This is why Evola places action over work.

In a capitalist, industrial system, without the benefit of organic, local social order, there is a tendency for national corporations to grow in power until they exert decisive influence over all aspects of human society. A social system is created where income is the sole determinant of social status, so there is no reason not to work as long as possible. This process has reached its logical conclusion in places like Japan and South Korea, where fertility rates are at extreme lows and people with corporate careers regularly work or spend time with their co-workers all day every day. This has led to social devitalization whereby many young people have even lost interest in romantic relationships. This is the neoliberal capitalist endgame; 70 hours of work a week, no children, no family.

In a traditional, normal society, more emphasis is placed not only on leisure but also personal study, activity, hobbies, and exploration. That is why Keynes and many futurists of the 20th century believed that in the present time (post-2000), we would use our great wealth to facilitate more time away from work. Instead, we’re trapped on a status treadmill that asserts we must continue to work harder at any cost, to improve our social standing.

The trouble with social standing is that it is a zero sum game, and the harder everyone works, the harder everyone is in turn forced to work to advance themselves. This frantic ladder-climbing can be contrasted with the point of view of the peasant or farmer, who is happy with who he is, and works towards a secure life within the limits of his natural station. Instead of purely working towards maximizing income, he values the good things in life, the things that actually are known to bring happiness: family, an emphasis on producing work with an individual touch, directly benefiting from one’s own hard labor, leisure time, socializing, and so on.

Interestingly, these “good things in life” are also enjoyed by the ultra-rich. Primarily, they are enjoyed by the upper lower class and the ultra-rich. The middle class are stuck trying to move themselves in the direction of the ultra-rich, unaware that if they just sat still, they might be happier. The parallel between the upper lower class and the upper upper class was noticed by Paul Fussell in his book Class. Neither class has anything to prove, and is satisfied with who they are.

Within neoreaction, it is actually passion and concern for the lower class and lower middle class that motivates many of our arguments related to crime, the economy, social order, and so on. When social order begins to collapse, the poor feel it first; not just sacralized victim groups of the poor, but the poor in general. Liberalism fails to make cities safe for the poor, because liberal ideas come from inherently safe places like Harvard. A set of values formed in places like Harvard is not practical or helpful for actually helping the poor in general. It is based on the social assumptions of the wealthy and well-educated, who inhabit a social world very different than that of the poor, a world where physical force has no place.

There are many other points to be made along these lines, but these suffice for now.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Fandyien posted:

pretty good, pretty blazed, how r u

also ive been reading some of this dark enlghtenment stuff, unsurprisingly they really dig hans herman hoppe lol



Doing good I'm glad you're good I've been sucking dick all day and boy is my mouth tired

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum

Pornographic Memory posted:

there's so much poo poo wrong with this lady and gibbis zeroes in on her being trans? smdh

I asked this earlier and was never answered

me posted:


wait wait wait

this was originally a guy, right, therefore he was trans

but once he cut the dilz, he was a she, therefore she is not trans right, unless she wants the dilz back, which makes her a he that isn't trans, unless he wants to cut the dil....

is that how the stupid pronouns started?

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

quote:

The world of the 19th century onwards has been controlled by the merchant class—as with so many important social changes, I believe this happened around the time of the French Revolution, maybe a decade after. Countries with the merchant class placed at the top of the social pyramid are generally called capitalist. The question is whether life for the poor, the peasants, is better under the merchant class or under the old aristocratic class. Brahmin values are merchant values.
what was mercantilism?

we just don't know

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien

jackyl posted:

I asked this earlier and was never answered


is that how the stupid pronouns started?

You'd have to ask xie directly I guess

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

did anybody post her interview with the emoprog army podcast yet

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax

Gazpacho posted:

she is not a fascist but she is every petit bourgeois who ever looked at a fascist and said "we need someone like that"



I dunno, I can sorta see xir point there.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Fandyien posted:

Look at us! We are not out of breath, our hearts are not in the least tired. For they are nourished by fire, hatred and speed! Does this surprise you? it is because you do not even remember being alive! Standing on the world's summit, we launch once more our challenge to the stars!

Your objections? All right! I know them! Of course! We know just what our beautiful false intelligence affirms: "We are only the sum and the prolongation of our ancestors," it says. Perhaps! All right! What does it matter? But we will not listen! Take care not to repeat those infamous words! Instead, lift up your head!

Standing on the world's summit we launch once again our insolent challenge to the stars!

is this from the fuckin gurren lagann script

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Y-Hat posted:

did anybody post her interview with the emoprog army podcast yet



Holy poo poo

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
lol calm down, it is just trolling

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Justine's party of human suffering already exists, it is called the GOP

'Democracy inevitably leads to Marxism' - Hitler (and now Hoppe I guess)

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum

Y-Hat posted:

did anybody post her interview with the emoprog army podcast yet



wow, it loves computer janitors, which makes sense since it worked as a janitor

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



what side will the wealthy conservative bosses of the techies fight on

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien

Xaris posted:

lol calm down, it is just trolling

See, this is what I thought, but it's a pretty long term troll if so

Four Score
Feb 27, 2014

by zen death robot
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

“They’ve never role-played the part of the peasant.”

:drat:

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Xaris posted:

lol calm down, it is just trolling

hard to tell b/c she is deffo a confirmed crazy person

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien

jackyl posted:

wow, it loves computer janitors, which makes sense since it worked as a janitor

You should tell her this directly

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum

EXTREME INSERTION posted:

You should tell her this directly

I would but I'm afraid it will wear a clown mask and rip my arm off trying to drag me into a storm gutter

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

jackyl posted:

what was its original name? Justin? Or something else like Matt? How did Justine become a name?
https://www.youtube.com/user/ijustine

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Cat Terrist posted:

If you call love letters "Getting bent over and rear end hosed while reciting Atlas Shrugged"

Oh my God, the hate sex I'm fantasizing about right now...

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien

Majorian posted:

Oh my God, the hate sex I'm fantasizing about right now...

Galtse

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

EXTREME INSERTION posted:

See, this is what I thought, but it's a pretty long term troll if so

idk it seems like it's clearly just a tranny gasping for attention with ~edgy twitter opinions~ and everyone is giving it to him/her. but then again I have a problem where I read a lot of stuff like that as it's trolling so :shrug:

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Gazpacho posted:

what was mercantilism?

we just don't know

Bless you, ants.

Blants.

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