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Is it also the scenario that was described to me multiple times during Top Gear UK (during cheap car challenges) where scrapping a car costs money, and a poo poo car with MOT is actually worth selling for 200 pounds?
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You can usually find someone to bung you a few quid cash in hand for a scrap car, but used car prices in general seem to be far lower over here. If it has an MOT and drives somebody will buy it and run it into the ground. *E* Case in point, I've never spent more than £850 on a car (loved being a student) and each worked mostly fine. 2 (the Miata and my shitbox Peugeot) still work, one got written off in an accident and one failed its MOT and got sold for £130 as scrap. I don't think I could do that in the US. jammyozzy fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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Jul 25, 2014 19:09
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leica posted:Over here meaning you're in the UK? Yeah I don't see why rod ends or ball joints would be any different, they look exactly the same in the pics except the UK ends are silver instead of black. Why are they so much cheaper across the pond, I don't get it. It's $45 for shipping but it still comes out to almost half the price of the US parts. Weird how that poo poo works. I was trying to order new fork springs from a UK company for my ZRX. $265 ordering direct from the UK. $89 shipped if I email ordered from their US distributor.
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Jul 25, 2014 19:10
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Scrapping a car doesn't cost money unless you're easily taken in by the "Ah, well, not much call for scrap these days, guv, not really worth my time coming out..." spiel. If I take a car two miles down the road to a local yard, I can expect about £100 per ton at the moment. However, yes, a running, MOT'd car (so legal to use on paper, if not in reality, depending how bad it's got since that MOT test) has a certain minimum "floor" value, if only because you could drive it striaght to said scrapyward. Basically, the new and used car markets are completely different in the UK and US. The UK is noticeably more expensive for new vehicles, but our used prices are a lot lower. You could maybe argue the higher ownership costs of cars here (fuel etc) allow people to accept higher depreciation? I don't know what causes it specifically, it's probably quite complex, but why doesn't matter, it just is. Also, Miatas/MX-5s have the artificial boost that we have been able to import JDM cars and parts since launch with minimal difficulty. I think the average American would be amazed at the selection of cars you can get here for $500-$1000. They may not be particularly exciting, but they're probably all there and working, and will remain so for a long time.
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Jul 25, 2014 19:17
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InitialDave posted:Yeah, AFAIK Moog over here is the same Federal-Mogul sub-brand as in the US. No idea why there would be a noticeable pricing discrepancy, but I founf the same thing with performance brake pads for my Subaru. Initial part numbers are different, but the related numbers in "{}" after are the same. How different could they be? Maybe the threads possibly? Maybe I'll just take the risk and see what happens, it's only $95 shipped from the UK for two ends and two lower ball joints, if it works out it will be good to know for other Miata owners. Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 25, 2014 |
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Jul 25, 2014 19:20
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piss boner posted:Try a tent repair kit from BassPro/Dick Sporting? I got some vinyl at Joanne fabrics, going to see how well that holds up with some goop holding it on. I just need it to hold me over the winter I guess, then I'll use tax money to get a new one
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Jul 25, 2014 19:21
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Having a MOT or eqv also ensures that most deathtraps are less deathrappy than their US eqv. A car can only get so much worse in one year. Unless you commit outright fraud and have a separate but identical car that you test each year and then move the plates from (something I've heard about here in Sweden but never encountered in real life, although the cases I've heard about are when someone have stupid powerful cars that wouldn't pass test on account of being too modified, rather than rusty deathtraps. A 1000 hp E30 is another kind of deathtrap.)
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leica posted:Initial part numbers are different, but the related numbers in "{}" after are the same. If it's a Moog K9908 in both cases, for instance, fair enough. If it's the same OE-number compatible, though, I'd be more careful. Nodoze posted:I got some vinyl at Joanne fabrics, going to see how well that holds up with some goop holding it on. I just need it to hold me over the winter I guess, then I'll use tax money to get a new one  Nidhg00670000 posted:Having a MOT or eqv also ensures that most deathtraps are less deathrappy than their US eqv. A car can only get so much worse in one year. Unless you commit outright fraud... It's not normally a "duplicate car" fraud, more normally a "mate wot has a garage" fraud.
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Jul 25, 2014 19:27
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From what it sounds like getting a used car in Europe is a lot cheaper even in places where they pay crazy high taxes to buy new. Europeans really value new cars I guess?
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Jul 25, 2014 20:06
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I posted this in stupid questions but:Cakefool posted:Where can I buy a 22mm radiator fan blanking plug in a hurry? Are my local motor factors likely to hold them? The new rad I bought for my wife's car has a port her car doesn't need. I'm in the UK. Also yes used cars can be amazingly cheap over here, I was thinking about picking up a ten year old seat Ibiza with a gearbox oil leak for £150 recently, or a Skoda fabia estate with broken front trim for £350. In the end I was looking at Audi A2s for about a grand, that's an all aluminium diesel with 120k miles and lots of service history, no damage, for the price of a set of BMW alloys.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Having a MOT or eqv also ensures that most deathtraps are less deathrappy than their US eqv. A car can only get so much worse in one year. Unless you commit outright fraud and have a separate but identical car that you test each year and then move the plates from (something I've heard about here in Sweden but never encountered in real life, although the cases I've heard about are when someone have stupid powerful cars that wouldn't pass test on account of being too modified, rather than rusty deathtraps. A 1000 hp E30 is another kind of deathtrap.) My XJ would like to disrespectfully (for my wallet, at least) disagree. Something has broken basically every week or two since mid January. All of these things that have broken have been in some way safety related. If I had brought it in for inspection in the last week of January, say, one day before my windshield cracked, I'd be in a much better place right now.
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InitialDave posted:Cheap chinese poo poo versus genuine article. Just read that according to Moog technical Support, if you want a real Moog product, made by Moog, you have to buy a part with the prefix "K." The UK parts do not have a K, but the US parts do. Guess that settles it, not gonna pay $45 shipping for chinese "moog" parts.
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CharlesM posted:From what it sounds like getting a used car in Europe is a lot cheaper even in places where they pay crazy high taxes to buy new. Europeans really value new cars I guess? I always thought used cars were cheaper in the UK because there is little to no demand for used RHD cars in the rest of Europe. While Germany, France, Benelux and Italy can count on the poorer countries in the South and East creating and having an insatiable demand for used LHD cars, UK has very few feasible avenues for unloading used cars - Ireland, Malta, Cyprus and that's all. Well, that and insurance costs, which, if I understand correctly, make certain types of car uneconomical to insure.
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I CAN'T STOP TOUCHING IT I really want to know what it's like to wake up every morning with a child-like awe at the world and stubbornness to reject reality wholesale because you're a big fat meanie. e: i wonder how many of your own farts you have to smell to get brain damage
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Cakefool posted:I posted this in stupid questions but:
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Jul 25, 2014 21:12
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Phone posted:I CAN'T STOP TOUCHING IT
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bandman posted:So the Miata was 0.1s faster in the quarter and to 60, but the BRZ stomped it by nearly 11 seconds on a road course. That 0.1 second difference is well within the margin of error for those kind of measurements and essentially meaningless. Two identical cars could run times 0.1 seconds apart just because of variations in manufacturing or tires. I suppose he was *technically* correct, but you can't explain away those lap times. You could really just jump in there with "V6 mustang" and make both sides lose their loving minds.
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I'm GAMO on mnet. The dude drives a Boss 302 apparently. I have like no idea what these guys are smoking. I make my coworkers lose their minds by saying that the V6 Mustang is a brilliant car that kicks all sorts of rear end, including the STi; however, their counter arguments of "lol 'merican trash" are empirically more correct.
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Jul 25, 2014 22:00
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Phone posted:I have like no idea what these guys are smoking.  Assuming the competition drives a Toyobaru in a straight line to only 60mph, of course, save for them then proceeding to a distance of 1320 feet total, whereupon they stop and admit their absolute, all-encompasing defeat to the glorious Miata.
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Phone posted:e: i wonder how many of your own farts you have to smell to get brain damage You're in the process of finding out from the look of things.
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IOwnCalculus posted:You're in the process of finding out from the look of things. Trapped in fart factory, please don't send help.
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InitialDave posted:M22x1.5 thread? Go to a car parts place and get a suitable sump plug for like £3. Brilliant, you're a star.
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Seeing the word "strawman" is definitely a trigger of mine. I've said it before but it all stems from that video of the horrifically pretentious goth kid rattling off about "various strawman fallacies" or something like that. Someone should find that video - it's gold.
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Baller Witness Bro posted:Seeing the word "strawman" is definitely a trigger of mine. I've said it before but it all stems from that video of the horrifically pretentious goth kid rattling off about "various strawman fallacies" or something like that. Someone should find that video - it's gold. He was pulling some OMG 155HP IS TOO MUCH THE POWER NAZIS ARE HERE poo poo.
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Cakefool posted:Brilliant, you're a star. 
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No one told me this job site was 10 hour days! Left at 6AM got home at 6PM.
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Jul 25, 2014 23:39
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F150Forum seems pretty tame although I constantly find myself questioning the sanity of the owners.
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Super Aggro Crag posted:No one told me this job site was 10 hour days! Left at 6AM got home at 6AM. That's 24 hours. And you should be back at work now.
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The Rover forums are hell. Stay the hell away from rangerovers.net. its loving awful.
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I was hungry for something hearty, but meatless. Went wandering around on the Whole Foods recipe site. Found this. Had to make a couple of changes (couldn't find summer squash, so I used calbaza squash that I already had, used a can of kidney beans in addition to garbanzo since it's what I had), but...  Family absolutely hates "meatless" food. Stepdad inhaled 2 bowls before I told him it was vegan... he had 3 more bowls after that with some cheddar sprinkled on top top. Served it with a side of pita pocket sandwiches stuffed with hummus, spring mix, English cucumbers, sliced cherry tomatoes.... The entire house is going into a food coma. And likely very dangerous levels of methane will be building up in each bedroom. 
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BrokenKnucklez posted:The Rover forums are hell. Stay the hell away from rangerovers.net. its loving awful. No poo poo Sherlock.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:The Rover forums are hell. Stay the hell away from rangerovers.net. its loving awful. I see you've talked to DiscoMike. some texas redneck posted:(couldn't find summer squash That looks awesome. And if you need summer squash send a 40 foot box to my house and I'll fill it up for you.
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Summer squash is one of those things I planted along with pumpkins something like five years ago at a garden at my parent's place up in Idaho. They still haven't forgiven me.
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I could find it if I looked hard enough, but tight budget + going to Kroger = nope. I could have definitely found it at Whole Foods (30 minute drive hahahaha no thanks), and maybe at Sprouts. That said, thanks for the offer. e: welp all the beans are saying hello e2: vvv 
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some texas redneck posted:That said, thanks for the offer. In that case, I'll just send you the 40' box full on my dime. Seriously....somebody has to take some of this poo poo. I blanched and vacuum packed 18 cups yesterday. I'll have enough to do that again in a couple more days. I'll appreciate this in the dead of winter though, so I shouldn't bitch. That's why I grow so much.
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Anyone have a sunroof explode on them spontaniously? I barely touch my sunroof and it exploded this morning while commuting to work. AC wasn't on. No cars close by, but I did go through an overpass (during, before?). $500 down the drain though.
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E2M2 posted:Anyone have a sunroof explode on them spontaniously? I barely touch my sunroof and it exploded this morning while commuting to work. AC wasn't on. What kind of car, and what temperature is it out? I vaguely remember hearing about a car that was kind of prone to it. That's in addition to Das Volk's Corvette where the T-tops flew off or something? Haha.
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E2M2 posted:Anyone have a sunroof explode on them spontaniously? I barely touch my sunroof and it exploded this morning while commuting to work. AC wasn't on. I had one do it on a lincoln town car, but that was from the temp coming from -10*c to plus 30*C in a couple hours. The glass was actually bowed outwards. with the tint holding it together. I learned at that point that neither insurance companies nor windshield shops consider sunroofs "Glass"
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2014 Honda Accord. It was early in the morning, 5AM or so. Traveling from San Francisco to Sacramento.
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I had one explode in a ford festiva. but it was some weirdass aftermarket one.
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