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Hazo posted:I listen to Gottlieb often and he's one of the more thoughtful and open-minded sports radio hosts, especially compared to guys who dominate the medium like those who are openly bigoted jackasses (the guy in that Facebook post) or whose gimmick is "antagonistic douche" (Jim Rome, Scott Ferrall). Gottlieb rules. I'm becoming a fan of Cowherd on ESPN too, he is pretty accepting and makes good points when the issues come up.
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pentyne posted:The "no sex before marriage" people scream about how great it is and how you're doing it wrong by having pre-marital sex that the only reasonable assumption is their sex is so mediocre/unfulfilling they have to try to convince everyone else its the only option. A page back but this sounds like something ripped straight from 1984, except God is replacing Big Brother. That's terrifying to me.
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Dr Christmas posted:Ugh, so just because I believe that it will be a good thing when gay people a subjected to an eternity that makes Auschwitz look like Disney World, that means I'm a bigot? Only if you want to replicate that afterlife in the living world. Then you're a bigot, as well as a prideful self-idolater for assuming the power to judge others in God's stead. But these idiots are blind to their own sins.
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Jul 25, 2014 15:45
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Nice catch over at Pando Daily, with a piece about what everyone's favorite Libertarian journal of ideas was up to in the 1970s. The February 1976 issue of Reason is a jam-packed special focusing on re-examining history, specifically the question "who is to say what really happened in those so-called holocaust 'extermination' camps?". Seriously, the contributor list reads like a whos-who of first-generation holocaust deniers, including Ron Paul's longtime ghostwriter Gary North. It's really hard to pull smoking-gun quotes from the article, and it's too long and full of graphics to usefully quote, so head on over and check it out.
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Jul 25, 2014 16:31
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ToxicSlurpee posted:One thing, as far as I understand, that shifted in journalism over time was a mad rush to get the big story and the viewers paying attention first. As ratings, as indicated by how many people are watching, is the primary thing that matters in TV fact checking and truth took a backseat to sensation. It was easier to get people watching by pushing emotional buttons, throwing fancy graphics at them, and constantly one-upping one another with BREAKING NEWS HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPENING!!!!!! Eventually it got to the point that organizations chasing ratings quit caring about facts because viewers didn't.
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Today my boss told me that Obama has announced that anyone under the age of 30 who is in the US by the end of the day July 31 will be granted legal residency and that the liberal media just didn't want anybody to know. This is what conservatives actually believe.
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Jul 25, 2014 18:01
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Xibanya posted:Today my boss told me that Obama has announced that anyone under the age of 30 who is in the US by the end of the day July 31 will be granted legal residency and that the liberal media just didn't want anybody to know. Which is ironic, because that's something I'd love to believe. Like, this is a really good plan for finally fixing immigration. Can we actually do this? Is this a thing we can do? Maybe we need to hire some conservative talking head and wait for them to go, "HERE'S A THING THAT WOULD HAPPEN AND BE AWFUL  " and quietly use that as a blueprint.FuzzySkinner posted:The idea that he has to inject the sport with supposed "masculinity"/"right wing" is pathetic. I never think of the game in that way, and I'm sure the majority of the people at TFF would be telling that guy to gently caress off. Speaking as a TFF poster, he can gently caress off.
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Jul 25, 2014 18:07
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Xibanya posted:Today my boss told me that Obama has announced that anyone under the age of 30 who is in the US by the end of the day July 31 will be granted legal residency and that the liberal media just didn't want anybody to know. If you want to watch a conservative squirm and fail to come up with arguments ask them how they plan to track down, identify, and deport millions of illegals then remind them that that would take a poo poo load of logistics which is actually kind of expensive. Then ask how they expect it to get paid for.
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Jul 25, 2014 18:12
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Go further into debt to Red China, duh.
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Hazo posted:I listen to Gottlieb often and he's one of the more thoughtful and open-minded sports radio hosts, especially compared to guys who dominate the medium like those who are openly bigoted jackasses (the guy in that Facebook post) or whose gimmick is "antagonistic douche" (Jim Rome, Scott Ferrall). Gottlieb rules. There's a real bizarre culture from the far right in regards to sports. http://deadspin.com/whats-the-war-on-football-about-anyway-my-day-on-t-1445826914 The thing that's unusual about this, is that regardless of political believes, I've seen a good portion of former football players say that there's some truly scary things going on in regards to the lasting effects. You add to that the paranoia about soccer that seems to come from Right Wing Media. There was a conservative talk show host that insisted his kid not watch "Dora the Explorer" or play soccer because he viewed it as "MEXICANS TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY!"
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If you want to watch a conservative squirm and fail to come up with arguments ask them how they plan to track down, identify, and deport millions of illegals then remind them that that would take a poo poo load of logistics which is actually kind of expensive. Then ask how they expect it to get paid for. They'd probably say, we won't address that issue until the border is secure. Benghazi.
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Jul 25, 2014 18:20
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FMguru posted:Nice catch over at Pando Daily, with a piece about what everyone's favorite Libertarian journal of ideas was up to in the 1970s. The links between libertarianism and fascism are bizarre and fascinating. Thanks for posting this.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:What kind of constructive conversation is even possible when one side of the debate is "It's eternally wrong and you're forever locked out of the kingdom of bullshit"? Obviously you are the real bigot for not accommodating my belief that your minority group is inherently evil.
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Pope Guilty posted:The links between libertarianism and fascism are bizarre and fascinating. Thanks for posting this. Uh, only liberals are fascist. Whereas libertarians are freedom fighters.
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Jul 25, 2014 18:48
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Human lampshades and gold teeth melted into bricks is just the magic forces of the free market at their most productive.
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Spacedad posted:Human lampshades and gold teeth melted into bricks is just the magic forces of the free market at their most productive. Liberal spotted. The holocaust never happened, libtard.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If you want to watch a conservative squirm and fail to come up with arguments ask them how they plan to track down, identify, and deport millions of illegals then remind them that that would take a poo poo load of logistics which is actually kind of expensive. Then ask how they expect it to get paid for. 
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Bachman said a bunch of awful stuff today. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/michele-bachmann-children-ebola-and-people-terrorist-nations-part-immigrant-invasion http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/michele-bachmann-gays-want-let-adults-freely-prey-little-children-sexually It also seems like she is planning to run for president again in 2016.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If you want to watch a conservative squirm and fail to come up with arguments ask them how they plan to track down, identify, and deport millions of illegals then remind them that that would take a poo poo load of logistics which is actually kind of expensive. Then ask how they expect it to get paid for. "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter"
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Jul 25, 2014 19:07
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VitalSigns posted:"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" Speaking of which, how many and which of the conservative and/or Very Serious Pundits pivoted from the "deficits don't matter, the economy is doing great" line in 2004 or 2005 to scaremongering about that and the debt after Obama got elected?
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Jul 25, 2014 19:09
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"We could easily afford to properly secure our borders and enforce the laws if we stopped giving money away to Those People who just sit around on their porches drinking malt liquor and listening to rap music."
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Jul 25, 2014 19:10
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Speaking of which, how many and which of the conservative and/or Very Serious Pundits pivoted from the "deficits don't matter, the economy is doing great" line in 2004 or 2005 to scaremongering about that and the debt after Obama got elected?
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pengun101 posted:Bachman said a bunch of awful stuff today. So what will Sky Admiral Bachmann cosplay as this time? Perhaps Space Marshal Bachmann, or Time Warden Bachmann?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If you want to watch a conservative squirm and fail to come up with arguments ask them how they plan to track down, identify, and deport millions of illegals then remind them that that would take a poo poo load of logistics which is actually kind of expensive. Then ask how they expect it to get paid for. They'd probably want volunteers (vigilantes/minute men types) to handle it and just let the Cliven Bundy militia shoot everyone on site. Whatever became of those Bundy assholes anyway? I know last I heard they were headed to Murrieta but I never heard anything about it. Or Bundy for that matter.
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BiggerBoat posted:They'd probably want volunteers (vigilantes/minute men types) to handle it and just let the Cliven Bundy militia shoot everyone on site. Whatever became of those Bundy assholes anyway? I know last I heard they were headed to Murrieta but I never heard anything about it. Or Bundy for that matter. That's more current than what I last heard (that they started fighting each other since the feds never rolled around to pick a fight).
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Speaking of which, how many and which of the conservative and/or Very Serious Pundits pivoted from the "deficits don't matter, the economy is doing great" line in 2004 or 2005 to scaremongering about that and the debt after Obama got elected? Well you see, the full quote is actually, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter for Republican presidents".
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Intel&Sebastian posted:That's the entire point. Don't gently caress until marriage so I don't have to talk to you about it or think about it at all, because that would be difficult and embarassing. My fathers way around it was hiring me a call girl. Doubt my mother knew. His reasoning being learning the mechanics isn't enough, if you're gonna learn learn how to do it right. His take on the drug talk was offering to get me weed if I wanted to try it but I had to stay home, and if I ever got a DUI/DWI don't ask him for a lawyer and expect to have my lungs ripped out and beaten with them when I get out of jail.
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Toasticle posted:My fathers way around it was hiring me a call girl. Doubt my mother knew. His reasoning being learning the mechanics isn't enough, if you're gonna learn learn how to do it right. (wide eyed emoticon expressing disbelief)
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Atheist parents = best parents. That or "Well your going to do them anyway, may as well make sure you dont get busted buying ditchweed and get someone knocked up"
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My mother was the one that gave me the talk. Probably because my father was way too embarrassed to do it and he's the kind of person that will wait outside on a bench while my mother looks at underwear. Anyway, all it comprised of was that I use my own condoms because she knew a few girls in high school that would poke holes in them. And to never get married to someone that wasn't white or non-Christian. She denies ever saying that part.
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After watching a Jonestown documentary yesterday, just call me 'healthily skeptical' of the idea that parents always know what's best for their kids.
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Xibanya posted:Today my boss told me that Obama has announced that anyone under the age of 30 who is in the US by the end of the day July 31 will be granted legal residency and that the liberal media just didn't want anybody to know. Sounds like he's listening to somebody who recently watched Elysium but thought Matt Damon was the villain and the ending was really depressing.
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So, uh, wow, this just came in on my linkedin page. https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20140725153658-283620963-how-chick-fil-a-hires-the-christian-way?trk=tod-home-art-list-large_0 quote:Chick-fil-A gets between 10,000 to 25,000 applicants a year from aspiring franchise operators to fill the 60 to 70 open slots that open up each year, according to https://www.ajc.com. As part of the application, Chick-fil-A asks candidates to disclose their marital status, number of dependents and their involvement in community, civil and religious organizations, according to southernstudies.com. Um, wow. Chick-fil-a sounds like a lovely company even beyond the usual "Gay Hating" stuff. Nothing like violating discrimination laws!
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Oh Mark Simone, your completely ungraceful ability to drop a problem caller is so cute to listen to, you are so bad at what you do you're the perfect replacement for Sean you make me miss him.
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 The gently caress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGaXIhT3SRI I guess he is just linking to old videos of his to get across his point
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Okay this was amusing. Stephen Moore, one of the laziest right-wing economists, tried to defend Kansas' horrible recent economic policy, particularly against Paul Krugman: http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2014/7/nothing-the-matter-with-kansas-tax-policy However, this dude from the Kansas Star noted there were a few problems with Moore's article: quote:Here are the four problems I subsequently found in that single paragraph written by Moore, which led to a corrected version of his column being posted on The Star’s website. Moore approved the correction in an email exchange with The Star. http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/yael-t-abouhalkah/article800237.html Moore offered a "correction" here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/readers-opinion/as-i-see-it/article685284.html#/tabPane=tabs-603c299d-1 I'm curious, is it common for people to offer "corrections" like that, where they keep everything they've said about the original article, but still make a note saying that most of the things in the article are in fact wrong?
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Mr Interweb posted:Okay this was amusing. Stephen Moore, one of the laziest right-wing economists, tried to defend Kansas' horrible recent economic policy, particularly against Paul Krugman: That corrected article is beautiful. I've never seen so one get so egregious that they put corrections right in the middle of the article like that. And then the whole thing ends on "Who’s the real con artist and charlatan here?" Like, right after "Texas gained 30 million jobs Note: These numbers are totally loving wrong. California lost so many jobs it broke off and sank into the ocean. Note: This is a complete lie"
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Mr Interweb posted:I'm curious, is it common for people to offer "corrections" like that, where they keep everything they've said about the original article, but still make a note saying that most of the things in the article are in fact wrong? quote:No-income-tax Texas gained 1 million jobs over the last five years, California, with its 13 percent tax rate, managed to lose jobs. Oops. Florida gained hundreds of thousands of jobs while New York lost jobs. NOTE: These figures are incorrect. The time period covered was December 2007 to December 2012. Over that time, Texas gained 497,400 jobs, California lost 491,200, Florida lost 461,500 and New York gained 75,900. Oops. Illinois raised taxes more than any other state over the last five years and its credit rating is the second lowest of all the states, below that of Kansas!
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