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Zorak posted:The thing is that Time Spiral block actively drove people away from the game for being too complex and incomprehensible for non-entrenched players Oh yeah, I definitely understand why it was considered a failure. I'm actually a little concerned that they're doing a set that looks like Khans in a year where sales are performing under forecast, because history could definitely repeat itself. The other part of me looks at the fact that I didn't buy a single pack of Born and Journey and think "it's nice to see them swing for the fences again."
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Korak posted:Why do I keep reading about people being upset that morph is back? I thought morph was an alright mechanic. When they said they were bringing back something old that players have been asking for, I think everyone started to daydream about what it could be. Almost no one was thinking about morph. Morph is a good mechanic, if they would have announced it in the dark I think people would cheer its return, but the "returning mystery thing" got overhyped.
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Ramos posted:0/5 This can be fixed 
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blue.eyed.ash posted:Oh yeah, I definitely understand why it was considered a failure. I'm actually a little concerned that they're doing a set that looks like Khans in a year where sales are performing under forecast, because history could definitely repeat itself. Sales were only down for Q2 2014 compared to Q2 2013. Overall sales in 2013 were incredible, and the Fall sets are going to sell gangbusters (especially since the new Commander sets are going to move like crazy). WOTC isn't exactly at risk. Northjayhawk posted:When they said they were bringing back something old that players have been asking for, I think everyone started to daydream about what it could be. Almost no one was thinking about morph. I'm pretty sure the thing WOTC was referring to was Orcs. Folks want Orcs.
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ungulateman posted:Throwing this out there: "Temur", the RUG clan, has a very similar name to Genghis Khan originally did (Temujin), and is in Sarkhan Vol's two original colours. Then again, Sarkhan was the Jund planeswalker of Alara so any tribe that has RB or RG (or I guess BG, but dragons...) could handle him. That would leave WBR and WBG too. In the visual spoilers, he seemed color coordinated to WBR? Sarkhan just doesn't seem to mesh with RUG, but that might be why he planeswalked away, assuming he chose to leave, and that he didn't choose to stay because DRAGONS!!! Zorak posted:I'm pretty sure the thing WOTC was referring to was Orcs. Folks want Orcs. My favorite Orc is Orcish lumberjack, which turns forests into black lotuses with upside. Because you need 5 drops on turn 2. Here's hoping for a reprint!
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Chill la Chill posted:I will be disappointed if it doesn't make it to a battle blanket. If it does I will buy it in a heartbeat and give my brother the Blood Crypt one I won at a Pre-release.
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Zorak posted:The thing is that Time Spiral block actively drove people away from the game for being too complex and incomprehensible for non-entrenched players My introduction to the game in 2004 was in a school club that had a gigantic mess of cards from every era of the game for club use. Because of this, I was familiar with most of the mechanics going in. Time Spiral remains my favorite block to this day, and I wouldn't consider myself "entrenched" after only (at the time) 2 years of very limited casual play. I knew enough to be able to enjoy the nostalgia aspect and recognize the time and color shifted cards, and that was enough for me. Someone starting from scratch wouldn't have had that kind of introduction to old mechanics and cards and probably would have been overwhelmed, so I definitely understand why it is considered a failure. At bare minimum, it had way too many mechanics coexisting in the same block. Add in the multitude of references to old cards that new players simply wouldn't get and you have new players that are confused and don't "get" 80% of the cards in the set.
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Gensuki posted:
Since time travel is a thing in Khans,  hopefully we can get this sweet art to Orcish Lumberjack
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Cernunnos posted:If it does I will buy it in a heartbeat and give my brother the Blood Crypt one I won at a Pre-release. It should ideally be a triptych. Man punches bear, bear punches dragon, dragon punches man. Each one represents the eternal control, combo, and aggro circle of life.
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Oh my god you guys. I just figured out the best possible Planeswalker we could get from these "Legends who didn't get cards" Commander ideas. Slobad, while he had the spark on Mirrodin.
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OneDeadman posted:Since time travel is a thing in Khans, There is basically no way this card would see reprint in Khans for a host of reasons. E: the main one being it's actually an insanely powerful card.
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Jul 26, 2014 21:25
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GonSmithe posted:Oh my god you guys. Jaya or bust
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Molybdenum posted:Jaya or bust Yeah, this is the correct answer. Her proto-planswalker creature card from Time Spiral doesn't count.
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Wurzag posted:That deck only has 20 lands. I appreciate that most of the deck is really cheap mana cost wise but did you not find yourself screwed for mana all the time (especially with 4 coming in tapped)? I'd love to hear your thoughts as I'd like to play somethimg similar Most of the deck is 2-3 drops, the key 3 drop makes everything cheaper, and I really hate putting more than 20 land into a deck since I usually play things vaguely aggro-themed and I am a baddie at deckbuilding. It usually works though. Usually. Putting in another land or two to replace Madcaps probably wouldn't hurt (especially if they were Mutavaults, but  ) but that probably won't become an experiment until Khans when my shocks and every single noncreature spell all rotate out en masse and there's currently no adequate replacement for them Replacing Mortars, Dreadbore, and Madcap with Lightning Strike, Doom Blade/Downfall, and ...Inferno Fist? Hammerhand? does not sound appealing in the slightest, and I'm hoping hard for Sulfurous Springs to somehow be in Khans to finish the M15 cycle as well as whatever else may be the new lands. I'm hoping hard for Khans to give me adequate replacement tools overall. Zorak posted:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT BIRDMAN IS BUT IT IS GETTING OPEN PALM SLAMMED INTO MY EDH DECK SO HARD. GonSmithe posted:Oh my god you guys. Give me Leshrac/Freyalise/Ravi/Serra/Tevesh Szat or give me death. Archenteron fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Pretty hyped for all the old Duel Decks being reprinted. That was a big unexpected reveal.
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Jul 26, 2014 21:40
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Jul 26, 2014 21:41
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Elyv posted:Arcanis saw near zero play in a totally different format and probably isn't being reprinted in a standard legal product anyway. I thought that Arcanis was often reanimated in Odyssey-Onslaught type 2.
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OneDeadman posted:Know who's a legend without a card? Fblthp and Oglor.
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Zorak posted:
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Kurtofan posted:Is the blue guy an orc monk? No, it's Fire Slenderman
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I am so excited for anything related to or can benefit or be used in commander I'll tell you what.
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Wow this set sounded cool as heck even before Morph was announced. And Arcanis is (sorta) back? I chose a good time to return to Magic I guess.OneDeadman posted:Since time travel is a thing in Khans, So that's this guy's more efficiently costed grand daddy? 
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Kurtofan posted:Is the blue guy an orc monk? My wild rear end guess: blue guy is a Djinn Monk, Red Guy is Efreet Monk.
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Archenteron posted:I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT BIRDMAN IS BUT IT IS GETTING OPEN PALM SLAMMED INTO MY EDH DECK SO HARD. 
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Zorak posted:My wild rear end guess: blue guy is a Djinn Monk, Red Guy is Efreet Monk. They're in the set? Nice. Chorocojo posted:No, it's Fire Slenderman Spooky 
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Chorocojo posted:No, it's Fire Slenderman Not nearly as successful as the original due to how bad he was at sneaking up on people while constantly holding fire.
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GonSmithe posted:
Zorak posted:MORPH IS BACK the gently caress is going onnnn Jesus gently caress
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Chorocojo posted:No, it's Fire Slenderman If he gets a card, his brother Saul really deserves one.
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Ensoul Artifact on a Springleaf Drum in this modern match... Gives me ideas for an interesting Standard deck. 
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Cifka playing Affinity at GP Boston and is getting the Ensoul Artifact on Springleaf Drum beats in.
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Zorak posted:
I KNEW IT I loving KNEW THE OLD THING BROUGHT BACK WAS ORCS YES YES YES  Oh hey Arcanis the Omnipotent he's pretty rad too. I'm digging the names for the Wedges as well, and that the gimmick is Wedges and Time Travel. Also Morph. Hmmm. Wedge Time Travel. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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It looks like I picked a good year to fully get back into Magic. Also glad to hear that Conspiracy sold well enough that they'll probably do another set like that. My LGS is running Conspiracy drafts still every weekend with no prize pool until there's no longer any in stock, since a bunch of us, including the owner, love playing it so much.
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"gently caress it, we're out of ideas; ": the block. (Please note that I am joking and do not believe Wizards is actually out of ideas. Also, I think this block will be amazing.)
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Maro posted on his blog details that were in the panel, but clear up some stuff from how they're stated:quote:Khans of Tarkir
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It's me. I am the person whi, for the last 3 years, has beeb harping on abiut how I wanted Morph back. MORPH. (course I'm a judge now, so I need to deal with all the morph bullshit.)
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Print Lithomancer in Commander. Print Ugin in Commander and in Khans. Wizards, take all my money.
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Zorak posted:The five clans are based off of aspects of dragons: endurance, cunning, ruthlessness, speed and savagery (based around a single color in WUBRG order with one ally and one enemy) Is there a thematic element to calling colors in a wedge enemies and allies, or is it just a shorthand for the position of the colors on the Magic pentagon? mehall posted:It's me. I am the person whi, for the last 3 years, has beeb harping on abiut how I wanted Morph back. I'm pretty stoked too. It's the mechanic introduced when I started playing MtG.
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Personally? I'm hoping for two things from this set. Arcanis gets a planeswalker card. And that this gets reprinted: 
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