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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Bilirubin posted:

I'd be happy with condo pickup of recyclables in Calgary rather than having to cart my stuff to a depot but as long as its not going to the landfill I'll put up with that minor inconvenience.

My building has a recycling area in the garbage room, but I suppose it would be better to have that service provided by the city instead of private contractors. I could, of course, return them for money, but even in the quantities I drink, that might amount to a few bucks per month, not counting the time and gas it would take to actually return the bottles for a deposit.

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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.npr.org/2014/07/24/334097944/how-high-debt-from-the-housing-collapse-still-stifles-our-economy

Surprise! High consumer debt load is bad for the US economy!!

Who knew???

It must truly be Different Here in Canada.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report...ashboard/alerts

Supreme court tells TREB to get hosed. One step closer to Zillow and redfin in Canada.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Cultural Imperial posted:

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/report...ashboard/alerts

Supreme court tells TREB to get hosed. One step closer to Zillow and redfin in Canada.

I remain baffled that we collectively permit these jokers to be the sole stewards of this critical data.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy

Cultural Imperial posted:

http://www.npr.org/2014/07/24/334097944/how-high-debt-from-the-housing-collapse-still-stifles-our-economy

Surprise! High consumer debt load is bad for the US economy!!

Who knew???

It must truly be Different Here in Canada.

I heard this on the commute. I mean, it's probably true but really it's debt service as a proportion of income that matters, and with interest rates so low, I dunno. I don't see them going up appreciably for at least another 2 years.

One day there will be a reckoning and Canada's weird 5 year renewal thing is a time bomb, no doubt.


Personal anecdote time I was visiting my parents in Cape Breton again this month and things are worse than ever. The supposed saviour development backed by rich Egyptians has gone precisely nowhere in the 12 months since I last went, people are older, roads are worse, and it's generally depressing as gently caress.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.
^ I've always puzzled over why the Maritimes are so poo poo economically. You'd think being coastal, having proximity to New England, etc would all be positive attributes.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

The fish dried up.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
Maritimers behaved in the same way that Albertans do today. It's a lesson that any single-resource region would do well to learn, but they always think they'll avoid the same outcome via magic or something.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Well they used to depend on US tourists but in the mind 00's they got hit by the double whammy of the large exchange rate change and the recession so that went way down. At that point, revenues were so low that upkeep suffered and lots of the destinations look pretty dodgy.

All amenities are spread out and essentials and utilities are expensive.

The hurricane causing the cancellation of a big music festival is an especially large hit to Canso.

Fishing is basically gone, and lobster is small but sustainable now. They're attempting to reopen some coal mines since it's up to about $200/tonne. Medicine is the only field that is growing, and only in the larger towns/cities anyway.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

BC has a sustainable condos and weed based economy.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
found on reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2bmgg7/i_inspect_vacant_houses_for_the_bank_this_note/



i am furiously masturbating to the prospect that this will become a reality in canada in the near future

gently caress you equity builders

Arabian Jesus
Feb 15, 2008

We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith

We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day

Cultural Imperial posted:

gtfo i'm not storing a bin full of rotting food

If you have biodegradable food wastes bags just store them in your freezer until compost day, smell problem gone.

Sassafras
Dec 24, 2004

by Athanatos
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Sassafras fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Aug 3, 2014

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Sassafras posted:

You know you're coming across as severely mentally ill, right?

i was hoping for 'jealous hater of the financial secure'

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Cultural Imperial posted:

found on reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2bmgg7/i_inspect_vacant_houses_for_the_bank_this_note/



i am furiously masturbating to the prospect that this will become a reality in canada in the near future

gently caress you equity builders

Speaking from personal experience, that could very well have been left by tenants who were evicted after their Bigshot Landlord went belly up from over-leveraging his useless fat rear end on multiple "income" houses.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Cultural Imperial posted:

i was hoping for 'jealous hater of the financial secure'

Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
bullshit, that's way too dense

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe


Hahaha oh god I hope this is true.

https://twitter.com/fcfyield/status/478546555805265920

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


PT6A posted:

My building has a recycling area in the garbage room, but I suppose it would be better to have that service provided by the city instead of private contractors. I could, of course, return them for money, but even in the quantities I drink, that might amount to a few bucks per month, not counting the time and gas it would take to actually return the bottles for a deposit.

We looked into private contracting but it was before BluePlanet started so there were no good options, plus we don't really have space for it. For returnable bottles most of us set them next to the dumpsters for the bottle pickers to take.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
I know all y'all software writing randian sperglords are going to hate this

https://www.straight.com/blogra/695211/vancouver-artist-studio-awards-program-offers-professionals-free-and-low-rent-creative-space

quote:

The City of Vancouver has invited applications from professional artists for seven low-cost or no-cost studio spaces.

The Vancouver Artist Studio Awards Program will make the studio or live-work space available from 2015 to 2018.

The peer-reviewed process is open to Vancouver-based artists who demonstrate talent and financial need.

Applicants can have expertise in a wide range of art forms, including visual arts, dance, literary arts, theatre, and media arts.

According to a city news release, one live-work studio and one work-only studio are being offered for free.

The other five studios, four of which have living accommodations, will be available at rents ranging from $300 to $470 per month. A maximum of two people are permitted to occupy live-work studios.

The only live-work studio with a bedroom will be aimed at an artist with a child.

On August 16, the city will hold open houses so applicants can view the premises.

The deadline for applications is September 5.

Studio 1 is 530 square feet live-in suite on the third floor at the corner of East 4th Avenue and Scotia Street in Mount Pleasant. It's being offered for free and includes a washer and dryer, concrete floors, fridge, stove, and northeast-facing window.

Studio 2 is a one-bedroom split-level unit at West 8th Avenue and Cambie Street. This 960-square-foot suite will rent for $375 per month and includes a fridge, stove, washer, dryer, and a 140-square-foot deck, as well as a parking stall.

Studio 3 is a 1,075-square-foot unit at East Pender Street near Clark Drive, renting for $440 per month. It includes a fridge, stove, dishwasher, security alarm, and 300-square-foot loft, as well as a parking stall.

Studio 4 is at Marine Drive and Cambie Street, renting for $470 per month. The 1,150-square-foot unit includes a fridge, stove, washer, dryer, storage area, 410-square-foot loft, and a west-facing garden patio. It also has a parking stall.

Studio 5 is a 910-square-foot unit renting for $375. It's also at Marine Drive and Cambie Street and includes a fridge, stove, washer, dryer, storage area, 295-square-foot loft, west-facing garden patio, and parking stall.

The work-only studios are both at West 6th Avenue and Fir Street. One rents for $300 per month and the other one is free. Both are 400 square feet and include a parking stall.



rotoscoping child porn is art u guys

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Well I'm not an objectivist, I hate Ayn Rand, I'm not a sperg, but I'm also not finished my CS degree so maybe that'll come? But why is this a bad thing? Endorsing the arts is a great idea in a city starved for it.

also:

quote:

rotoscoping child porn is art u guys

what the gently caress are you talking about?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Cultural Imperial posted:

I know all y'all software writing randian sperglords are going to hate this

https://www.straight.com/blogra/695211/vancouver-artist-studio-awards-program-offers-professionals-free-and-low-rent-creative-space


rotoscoping child porn is art u guys

meanwhile in SF:
http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-quickly-a-genius-startup-can-tank-1599840136

Basically a another startup drove out a local arts collective from a low rent building and then went under after a months.

The Ender
Aug 2, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE NOT WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN SHIT
...I hate that there aren't more of those units available.


I'd apply, but it's a waste of time. There are probably going to be thousands of people looking at those 5 places.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

JawKnee posted:

Well I'm not an objectivist, I hate Ayn Rand, I'm not a sperg, but I'm also not finished my CS degree so maybe that'll come? But why is this a bad thing? Endorsing the arts is a great idea in a city starved for it.

Yeah, I can't say I have a particular problem with it either. Where did the idea come from that people who write software embrace objectivism? It seems to have caught on around here, and I can't figure out why. Even I, everyone's favourite right-winger around these parts, think Ayn Rand is a heinous woman whose writings are only of any use whatsoever if one runs out of toilet paper.

The Ender
Aug 2, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE NOT WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN SHIT

PT6A posted:

Yeah, I can't say I have a particular problem with it either. Where did the idea come from that people who write software embrace objectivism? It seems to have caught on around here, and I can't figure out why. Even I, everyone's favourite right-winger around these parts, think Ayn Rand is a heinous woman whose writings are only of any use whatsoever if one runs out of toilet paper.

Silicon Valley has developed a (deserved) reputation for cultivating Objectivist ideologues, and that reputation has spilled over (unfairly or not) into the global tech sector.


EDIT: Also, movements like Bitcoin certainly haven't helped this image.

The Ender fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jul 28, 2014

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

The Ender posted:

Silicon Valley has developed a (deserved) reputation for cultivating Objectivist ideologues, and that reputation has spilled over (unfairly or not) into the global tech sector.

I don't think that's an especially widespread viewpoint there or fair characterization, and I lived there for years.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

etalian posted:

meanwhile in SF:
http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-quickly-a-genius-startup-can-tank-1599840136

Basically a another startup drove out a local arts collective from a low rent building and then went under after a months.

Startup culture is going to be that "What the gently caress" element of our period that historians will crack jokes about in a hundred years.

The Ender
Aug 2, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE NOT WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN SHIT

Lexicon posted:

I don't think that's an especially widespread viewpoint there or fair characterization, and I lived there for years.

Okay?

I mean, Google's CEO has more or less the same perspective, as does Yahoo!'s new CEO, as did the late Steve Jobs...


About the only person of note from the Valley I can think of who isn't a Rand devotee is Bill Gates.

Of course the labor market itself will have a much more diverse spread of opinions, but perception tends to be based on what the public figures from a given sector project to the world, not what the 9-5 guys think.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

FrozenVent posted:

Startup culture is going to be that "What the gently caress" element of our period that historians will crack jokes about in a hundred years.

Callin it now, 20 years from now we'll be laughing at hootsuite like murray pezim.

e: yo, bill gates isn't 'valley'

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
If you're not already laughing at third party monetizing social media, or any attempt to turn social media into a profession, I don't know what to tell you.

The Ender
Aug 2, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE NOT WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN SHIT

Cultural Imperial posted:

Callin it now, 20 years from now we'll be laughing at hootsuite like murray pezim.

e: yo, bill gates isn't 'valley'

Well, by 'Silicon Valley', I'm referring to the tech sector in the U.S. - not the actual SF Bay area. The term hasn't really meant a specific geographic location for a while.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

PT6A posted:

Yeah, I can't say I have a particular problem with it either. Where did the idea come from that people who write software embrace objectivism? It seems to have caught on around here, and I can't figure out why. Even I, everyone's favourite right-winger around these parts, think Ayn Rand is a heinous woman whose writings are only of any use whatsoever if one runs out of toilet paper.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Cultural Imperial posted:

I know all y'all software writing randian sperglords are going to hate this

https://www.straight.com/blogra/695211/vancouver-artist-studio-awards-program-offers-professionals-free-and-low-rent-creative-space


rotoscoping child porn is art u guys

Are you sure you're not actually going crazy?

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Are you sure you're not actually going crazy?

He seems to have been losing it a bit in Can Pol, maybe Drunk/ High Posting?

tsa
Feb 3, 2014

PT6A posted:

Yeah, I can't say I have a particular problem with it either. Where did the idea come from that people who write software embrace objectivism? It seems to have caught on around here, and I can't figure out why. Even I, everyone's favourite right-winger around these parts, think Ayn Rand is a heinous woman whose writings are only of any use whatsoever if one runs out of toilet paper.

You are probably too young, in your face objectivism was more in the 80s and now you just see more vanilla libertarisnism. Rand was incredibly popular among the founders of the valley. So the idea of it being popular came from, you know, reality.

Filthee Fingas
Jan 5, 2004
It's great being left handed..you can jerk off and still keep the mouse on the right side of the keyboard
Every time I read this thread, any desire I have of moving back to Vancouver disappears. I thought when I moved to London (UK)in 2010 that the housing prices here were bad (now looking to buy in London). Does Vancouver still suffer from poorly built condos/apartments (another reason why I want to buy in London - everything is made of brick and lasts for ages)

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.bnn.ca/Video/player.aspx?vid=407518

CMHC report on condo ownership obtained via FOI request by Bloomberg. Report will be released in August.


ALL THESE JEALOUS RENTER BEARS AND THEIR WEASEL WORDS

namaste friends fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 28, 2014

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-28/opaque-condo-buyer-data-prompts-cmhc-investor-report.html

quote:

Canada’s housing agency is set to publish results of a Toronto and Vancouver condominium-owner survey as early as this week as it seeks to address economist and policy maker concern that not enough is known about what’s driving price gains, documents show.

Canada Mortgage & Housing Corp. surveyed condo investors -- those who purchased at least one condo that isn’t the owner’s primary residence -- in August and September 2013, according to documents obtained by Bloomberg through an Access to Information request. Most of the content, including the number of people Ottawa-based CMHC contacted, the survey questions and the results, was redacted.

Calls are growing louder for more detail about who’s investing in the nation’s condo market, including how much is owned by foreigners, and what the risks are. Policy makers have warned for the past half decade a bubble may be forming in Canadian real estate, and some analysts have said prices are as much as 20 percent overvalued.

The lack of condo-ownership data in Canada “is a shortcoming,” Sal Guatieri, senior economist in Toronto for Bank of Montreal, said by phone July 22. “The more data, the better the quality of the data, the better the policy making.”

CMHC’s Condominium Owners Survey will be “factual and provides a descriptive profile of condominium investors,” the documents show. The agency expects to release the survey results, which are based on phone interviews with 42,426 households, as early as Aug. 1, Toronto and Vancouver data will be aggregated and results won’t include an estimate of the share of foreign and corporate investors, according to spokesman Charles Sauriol.

Lowest Rates

National home sales reached the highest level in four years in June and prices in Toronto and Vancouver are up 12 percent and 29 percent on the year, a realtor report this month showed. Historically-low mortgage rates are adding momentum, and the Bank of Canada has kept its benchmark policy rate at 1 percent since 2010.

The survey to be released in August is CMHC’s second attempt. The agency conducted a telephone survey of Toronto and Vancouver condo investors in August 2012 in response to “industry concerns about the extent and nature of condominium investment and its sustainability,” according to a mostly-redacted August 2012 CMHC board presentation. The survey intended to determine what investors planned to do with their units, how long they intended to hold them, what would motivate them to sell, how much they put down and the source of the downpayment.

That survey wasn’t publicly released because it “didn’t produce results that were reliable enough,” CMHC’s Sauriol said in his July 25 e-mail.

Foreign Investment

The housing agency is monitoring foreign investment in real estate by tracking land registry data, hosting investor round tables and conducting surveys into vacancy rates and rents, according to the 2012 board presentation.

“There is no comprehensive data source of foreign investors in the Canadian housing market,” CMHC Interim Chief Executive Officer Douglas Stewart said in an Aug. 21, 2013 memo to Canada’s Employment Minister Jason Kenney. “Although some estimates can be gleaned from some municipal land registries, those estimates are not reliable.”

Stewart’s memo was in response to Kenney’s questions from a CMHC briefing about foreign investment in the Canadian housing market, the documents show. Kenney also asked about the impacts of changes to the Immigrant Investor Program in Vancouver and Australia’s foreign investment policy.

Investor Roundtable

Participants at a Toronto condo investor roundtable that CMHC hosted in March 2012 cited unidentified brokers who estimated foreigners with no ties to Toronto account for about 2 percent to 3 percent of total condo purchases in the city, according to meeting minutes that don’t include participant names or affiliations. The minutes, included with the other documents obtained by Bloomberg, had already been made public.

Fifteen percent of the stock managed by rental management companies is owned by foreigners, based on filings of non-resident tax forms, according to the roundtable minutes.

Demand for Toronto condominiums pushed prices to new highs in the second quarter. The average price rose 2.8 percent from a year earlier to a record C$554 ($513) per square foot, even as the number of high-rise homes in the pre-construction, under construction and occupancy phases reached a high of 105,027 units in the city, Urbanation Inc., a Toronto-based consulting company, reported July 25.

Condominiums account for more than 1.6 million Canadian households, or about 12 percent, and more than half of those are located in the three largest markets Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal, according to Statistics Canada data.

“The gap between the importance of the real-estate market to the economy and the lack of publicly available information on it is mind-boggling,” Benjamin Tal, deputy chief economist at Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, wrote in an April note to clients. “What is the share of foreign investors in the condominium market?”

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HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Anecdotal, not data, etc, but for the first time since I've moved here I saw a detached house listed for $550k. When I first got here even the cheapest renovator in Emerald was $700k.

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