Dynasty/Samurai/Anime Warriors: Lu Bu and You

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5-Headed Snake God: Jun 12, 2008; Do you see how he's a cat?

Unlucky7 posted:

Finally decided to dip my feet into Ambition mode. I presume that in order to increase my Allies cap, I need to gain fame, right? Allies make buildings, buildings increase fame cap, fame increases allies cap.

Yes... but you should stick to Skirmish battles anyway. Yes, it will take longer to increase your caps, but you'll need all the materials you can get.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 16:21

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# ? May 15, 2024 23:40

Sindai: Jan 24, 2007; i want to achieve immortality through not dying

The Unicorn Full Armor was really confusing until I realized it was actually modelling all the weapons getting used up an discarded. Then I was really disappointed at how bare-bones the final form was until I used burst and realized that reloaded everything.

Which is good because the first form is hilariously powerful. Every button you push causes everything in front of you to vanish after ten seconds of explosions.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 17:15

Lunethex: Feb 4, 2013; Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

I'm curious, is it possible to ever run out of time in a warriors game?

# ? Jul 28, 2014 18:16

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Lunethex posted:

I'm curious, is it possible to ever run out of time in a warriors game?

Dynasty Warriors 4, Nanman Campaign on Hard.

Oh yes it is possible.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 18:22

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Lunethex posted:

I'm curious, is it possible to ever run out of time in a warriors game?

The final map of most Shu campaigns in DW5. The one where Zhuge Liang dies.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 18:23

Tae: Oct 24, 2010; Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Lunethex posted:

I'm curious, is it possible to ever run out of time in a warriors game?

Someone hasn't played Dynasty Warriors demos.

Campaign of Nanman? 10 minutes.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 21:19

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Samurai Warriors 1. Escorting Nobunaga. The AI can't be left alone or it dies, but also wants to kill everything before moving on. The spawns are extremely frequent.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 22:15

Angry Lobster: May 16, 2011; Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Nanman map on DW4 was certainly one of the most rear end in a top hat things I've seen in a DW game. Dw4 was really difficult compared to DW8, goddamn.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 22:55

GenderSelectScreen: Mar 7, 2010; I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME; College Slice

Bloodly posted:

Samurai Warriors 1. Escorting Nobunaga. The AI can't be left alone or it dies, but also wants to kill everything before moving on. The spawns are extremely frequent.

Oh gently caress, I remember that. Don't forget the battlefield-to-castle missions, where you could easily run out of time just because they were so loving long.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 22:57

Davincie: Jul 7, 2008

is there a faster method of getting materials then just farming them in skirmishes? getting everything to 50 is going to take forever and i already have every officer so it's so insanely boring even with the weapon materials doubling 'trick'

# ? Jul 28, 2014 23:02

a cartoon duck: Sep 5, 2011

Not really, but what you wanna do is upgrade the barracks to max ASAP so you can do the last Weapon Material region to speed things up a bit. Also, if you add an officer to the farm they sometimes give you materials, as does feeding your animals once you unlock the stalls.

Speaking of, other than adding an officer to the farm or training ground, does adding officers to any other facility even do anything?

# ? Jul 28, 2014 23:20

5-Headed Snake God: Jun 12, 2008; Do you see how he's a cat?

Davincie posted:

is there a faster method of getting materials then just farming them in skirmishes? getting everything to 50 is going to take forever and i already have every officer so it's so insanely boring even with the weapon materials doubling 'trick'

Upgrade the Merchant last. At level 50, his material trade rate is 1:1 instead of 2:1 - good once you've maxed out your facilities, but awful if you're still working on them.

a cartoon duck posted:

Speaking of, other than adding an officer to the farm or training ground, does adding officers to any other facility even do anything?

It occasionally gets you amusing dialogue. Apart from that, there's no effect that I can see.

# ? Jul 28, 2014 23:28

Kitfox88: Aug 21, 2007; Anybody lose their glasses?

Davincie posted:

is there a faster method of getting materials then just farming them in skirmishes? getting everything to 50 is going to take forever and i already have every officer so it's so insanely boring even with the weapon materials doubling 'trick'

Use Cheatengine. There's a table out for the latest version on their forums that works fine. :ssh:

# ? Jul 29, 2014 02:25

Leal: Oct 2, 2009

Tae posted:

Someone hasn't played Dynasty Warriors demos.

Campaign of Nanman? 10 minutes.

This so hard, I remember playing the DW3 demo and yeah it was only 10 minutes. My brother and I ended up rushing down to see what would happen if we beat it in time. We were so wide eyed and innocent about the game that we went and rented the game itself.

And then we ran into Lu Bu :negative:

# ? Jul 29, 2014 02:31

Davincie: Jul 7, 2008

DLC coming to the PC, probably, it's in the steam database as well
https://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/493754149973286912

# ? Jul 29, 2014 20:08

Dramicus: Mar 26, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Man, they finally patched the PS4 version with the option to disable depth of field. The game looks much better now and my eyes aren't constantly trying to focus anymore.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:52

Trollhawke: Jan 25, 2012; I'LL GET YOU THIS YEAR! EVEN IF I SAID THIS LAST YEAR TOOOOOO
God I love the smell of salty succubi in the morning

What would you say the worst stage in DW/SW/SB history is?

my vote is for Date's stage in SB3, if only because it's gimmickly is annoying and binary. You either have a character who can outspeed Masamune (Yoshitsugu, Sorin, Ujimasu) and the stage is easy, or you're someone else and you might as well develop a macro for it and go read a good book for the first and penultimate 2 minutes of the level.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:59

Selane: May 19, 2006

Trollhawke posted:

What would you say the worst stage in DW/SW/SB history is?

If the numerous posts about it on this page didn't already make it obvious, that'd probably go to the Nanman Campaign in DW4. Jesus Christ, who came up with that poo poo.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 14:03

HJE-Cobra: Jul 15, 2007; Bear Witness; Hell Gem

I recently got DW8 on sale through Steam, and have been playing it as warm-up to getting Hyrule Warriors when that comes out. Is it worth getting Warriors Orochi 3 on another system?

I wouldn't mind having co-op on the TV I could try with people, and Warriors Orochi 3 seems to have a ludicrous amount of characters. Plus the Wii U edition is $10 used or $15 new in Best Buy apparently. BUT now I find that there's also an Ultimate edition of the game coming out soon for PS4 which would have Sophitia from Soul Calibur too!

Is it worth spending money on a Warriors Orochi game, or should I just wait for Hyrule Warriors like I was planning on?

# ? Jul 30, 2014 14:27

Kurui Reiten: Apr 24, 2010

HJE-Cobra posted:

I recently got DW8 on sale through Steam, and have been playing it as warm-up to getting Hyrule Warriors when that comes out. Is it worth getting Warriors Orochi 3 on another system?

I wouldn't mind having co-op on the TV I could try with people, and Warriors Orochi 3 seems to have a ludicrous amount of characters. Plus the Wii U edition is $10 used or $15 new in Best Buy apparently. BUT now I find that there's also an Ultimate edition of the game coming out soon for PS4 which would have Sophitia from Soul Calibur too!

Is it worth spending money on a Warriors Orochi game, or should I just wait for Hyrule Warriors like I was planning on?

Are you enjoying DW8? WO3 uses DW7 models for the DW characters, and is a little different, plus the story is batshit insane. However, you're basically running around beating up people in crazy what-if scenarios with three dudes you can swap between at will. Also, the PS4 version will likely jam more enemies on screen if you wanna kill an extra ton of dudes at once.

Basically, Hyrule Warriors will likely be more interesting and varied overall, but if you're cool with crazy poo poo and want to run around as Asian dudes and dudettes taking down armies, WO3 is good.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 14:57

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Selane posted:

If the numerous posts about it on this page didn't already make it obvious, that'd probably go to the Nanman Campaign in DW4. Jesus Christ, who came up with that poo poo.

It's worth explaining why.

So, your forces, whoever they may be, are attacking the Nanman. There are frequent, periodic events that drain your morale due to the harsh climate. And you're already on bad morale as it is. The Nanman stage has it's base difficulty set really high(Since it's one of the last stages you'll do), so enemies are at their most aggressive and damaging, and there are many of them.

This mass is actually a good thing, since Morale is still a major thing. You need to start killing and keep killing to get morale under control so your allies can get enough morale that THEY start earning 50/100 kills and keeping everyone else's morale up despite the events. If you manage it, iit's a wonderful thing. If you don't it turns into a nightmare as you're pushed back to your main camp and going nuts killing and eventually dying, or your commander drops. Or you might get 1000 but this is the time of relatively small spawns-the 1000 super-power was effectively 'fine, have the map you crazy guy'.

All this and you need to deal with the various traps scattered through the map and Meng Huo, who will attack and respawn 7 times throughout all this.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 15:30

5-Headed Snake God: Jun 12, 2008; Do you see how he's a cat?

Dramicus posted:

Man, they finally patched the PS4 version with the option to disable depth of field. The game looks much better now and my eyes aren't constantly trying to focus anymore.

People complain about the depth of field a lot, and I admit I have no idea what it's about. I've never seen an issue with DW8's graphics, and the only thing I noticed when I turned off depth of field is that fire effects caused way more slowdown.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 15:44

Palleon: Aug 11, 2003; I've got a hot deal on a bridge to the Pegasus Galaxy!; Grimey Drawer

Ever since the PS4 patch for DW8, I've been noticing big slowdowns whenever there's a lot of units on the map. I had maybe put in 35+ hours to this point, and not once gotten a single slowdown, and I've had at least 5 in the last 2 hours of playing, including one where it was basically going a frame a second for a good 10 seconds before it caught up.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 16:13

Selane: May 19, 2006

Bloodly posted:

It's worth explaining why.

So, your forces, whoever they may be, are attacking the Nanman. There are frequent, periodic events that drain your morale due to the harsh climate. And you're already on bad morale as it is. The Nanman stage has it's base difficulty set really high(Since it's one of the last stages you'll do), so enemies are at their most aggressive and damaging, and there are many of them.

This mass is actually a good thing, since Morale is still a major thing. You need to start killing and keep killing to get morale under control so your allies can get enough morale that THEY start earning 50/100 kills and keeping everyone else's morale up despite the events. If you manage it, iit's a wonderful thing. If you don't it turns into a nightmare as you're pushed back to your main camp and going nuts killing and eventually dying, or your commander drops. Or you might get 1000 but this is the time of relatively small spawns-the 1000 super-power was effectively 'fine, have the map you crazy guy'.

All this and you need to deal with the various traps scattered through the map and Meng Huo, who will attack and respawn 7 times throughout all this.

Don't forget the poison water that damages you constantly whenever you stand in it, but doesn't hurt enemies. Then there's also the fact that half of the routes through the level are inaccessible without you riding an elephant to knock poo poo out of the way.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 16:48

Dramicus: Mar 26, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Maleketh posted:

People complain about the depth of field a lot, and I admit I have no idea what it's about. I've never seen an issue with DW8's graphics, and the only thing I noticed when I turned off depth of field is that fire effects caused way more slowdown.

Maybe I have broken eyes, but with depth of field on, the effect was so strong and constant that my eyes were trying to focus the entire time while I was playing, leading to eye strain. I had to look away from the screen to give my eyes some rest and just gave up playing until the patch came out.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:33

DrPaper: Aug 29, 2011

Nintendo Direct on Monday entirely dedicated to Hyrule Warriors.
http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/08-04-2014/

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:08

Davincie: Jul 7, 2008

list of incoming pc dlc:
DW8XLCE - DW7 Original Costume Pack 1
DW8XLCE - DW7 Original Costume Pack 2
DW8XLCE - DW7 Original Costume Pack 3
DW8XLCE - Original Costume Pack
DW8XLCE - Weapon System & Upgrade Pack
DW8XLCE - Weapon System Pack
DW8XLCE - New Stage & Animal Pack
DW8XLCE - New Stage & Camp Symbol Pack
DW8XLCE - Soldier & Officer Uniform Set
DW8XLCE - Japanese Voice Option

DW8XLCE - Special Costume Pack 1 & Special Weapon
DW8XLCE - Special Costume Pack 2
DW8XLCE - Old Costume Pack 1
DW8XLCE - Old Costume Pack 2
DW8XLCE - Old Costume Pack 3
DW8XLCE - Old Costume Pack 4
DW8XLCE - Powerful Weapon Pack
DW8XLCE - BGM Pack
DW8XLCE - Wallpaper Pack

also pictures of all (?) the new characters in that mobile game
http://imgur.com/a/CL09T

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:09

abagofcheetos: Oct 29, 2003; by FactsAreUseless

If any game were in need of some sort of season pass for DLC, Dynasty Warriors is it.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:10

a cartoon duck: Sep 5, 2011

What's the deal with Zhong Hui always talking about being the chosen one? Is it just because he's an anime or is there something else I'm missing?

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:12

Pureauthor: Jul 8, 2010; ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

a cartoon duck posted:

What's the deal with Zhong Hui always talking about being the chosen one? Is it just because he's an anime or is there something else I'm missing?

Because he's an arrogant blowhard?

They're just expanding on what happened in the novel where he started plotting with Jiang Wei to overthrow the Sima clan and seize power.

Edit: Gonna buy so much DLC

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:26

5-Headed Snake God: Jun 12, 2008; Do you see how he's a cat?

Davincie posted:

also pictures of all (?) the new characters in that mobile game
http://imgur.com/a/CL09T

Wait a second...

quote:

Huaman (Other)
Fictional daughter of Meng Huo and Zhu Ran. Fought alongside the Nanman forces against Zhuge Liang and Shu. She became infatuated with Guan Suo and after the campaign their marriage cemented the Shu/Nanman alliance.

Bao Sanniang is going to be pissed.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:55

Mokinokaro: Sep 11, 2001; At the end of everything, hold onto anything; Fun Shoe

Doesn't the pc version already come with the DW7 costume packs? Most characters have two DW7 outfits already.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 15:58

5-Headed Snake God: Jun 12, 2008; Do you see how he's a cat?

Mokinokaro posted:

Doesn't the pc version already come with the DW7 costume packs? Most characters have two DW7 outfits already.

The normal DW7 costumes come standard in all versions; the DLC outfits are rehashed DW7 DLC.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 16:15

PureRok: Mar 27, 2010; Good as new.

Going to buy all the DLC. Wish there was a Season Pass just to save time.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 21:57

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Man I'll tell you guys what's bullshit, is Lu Bu's campaign in DW8XL. The reason it is bullshit is that Lu Bu is completely correct - I can tear through any number of enemy soldiers and generals. I don't need tactics or strategy, the most I need to concern myself with is making sure Lingqi doesn't get hurt, and Zhang Liao is competent enough for that.

I'm gonna go play a Romance game where you can be Lu Bu and I'll show them all that I am the greatest warrior this world has ever seen!

# ? Jul 31, 2014 21:59

Chortles: Dec 29, 2008

Mister Adequate posted:

I'm gonna go play a Romance game where you can be Lu Bu and I'll show them all that I am the greatest warrior this world has ever seen!

Ya know, except when he keeps falling for forged letters claiming that his capital is under siege and will fall sooner than he can defeat the enemy in front of him but not so quickly that he can't get back in time...

... the story of Lu Bu vs. Cao Cao encounters in RTKXI.
:ughh:

P.S. *Sees Wu Guotai* Officially, her role in the Liu-Sun marriage alliance plotting if played at all like in the novel (as opposed to a mere marriage alliance as depicted in DW7-DW8) would be awkward. :staredog:

# ? Jul 31, 2014 22:03

Policenaut: Jul 11, 2008; On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

I really, really wish Koei would put ROTK 10 on the PSN someday...

# ? Jul 31, 2014 22:03

a cartoon duck: Sep 5, 2011

Mister Adequate posted:

I'm gonna go play a Romance game where you can be Lu Bu and I'll show them all that I am the greatest warrior this world has ever seen!

The final hypothetical mission is great because it's half an hour of Lu Bu beating everyone. It's really all I ever needed.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 22:10

Sindai: Jan 24, 2007; i want to achieve immortality through not dying

And when he says everyone, he means everyone. It's probably the longest level in the game just for the sheer number of characters you have to beat down.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 22:12

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Ybrik: Jan 1, 2008

I wish they would go back to having whatever character or kingdom you pick being the winning side. DW6 Lu Bu story was the best.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 22:45

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