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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Does anyone still have the city map that goon troll designed with the AIDS Camp in it? That was back when we had actually hilarious conservative trolls like Scrubber.

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Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

no one's ever complimented my posting before, and i aspire to be as great as swan oat one day :3:

:glomp: thank you my friend, i will use this as inspiration to continue exposing something awful to my scorching hot takes and top notch content

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

Popular Thug Drink posted:

what the gently caress is this poo poo

http://leanurbanism.org/publications/lean-sprawl-repair-mall-retrofit/

Duany Plater-Zyberk is a big deal urban design and architecture firm. they're one of if not the spearheads of "New Urbanism" in america, which can be summarized as being anti-suburb. they've been active on the suburban remediation front, as in how in god's name are we supposed to convert tumor-like suburbs into useful urban fabric. it's kind of a unsolved problem

anyway one of their partners is working on remediating this mall in north carolina. their plan is to convert the mall facility itself into some kind of tech/industrial incubator. sure, fine. they want to redevelop the parking lots into surrounding commercial and residential. ok, i'm with you so far.

they want to build the infill residential entirely out of shipping containers

it's even labeled a 'camp'



yeah. "Ex-parking lot will become residential camp" good god, if you can't master the urge to build a twee shantytown at least have the common ding dong sense to avoid inflaming the already far-too-active agenda 21 set, who WILL show up at the zoning hearing and raise indefinite hell

jesus gently caress. no wonder we can't get the politicians to get anything useful done

How does this not immediately turn into a slum?

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Popular Thug Drink posted:

it's just fine if you're dicking around with cheap building on your own property, but if you want the local government to pay to make children live there? come on

Plus it's nowhere near anything so unless they're planning on everyone just staying within the confines of the old mall, it's still entirely car-reliant.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Hedera Helix posted:

How does this not immediately turn into a slum?

apparently they want to convert the mall into some kind of nebulous incubator startup industrial facility thing with a culinary kitchen, which i guess implies that the residential camp is a factory town? so it's a slum by design then, but for easily manipulable neophilic millenial graduates?

comes along bort posted:

Plus it's nowhere near anything so unless they're planning on everyone just staying within the confines of the old mall, it's still entirely car-reliant.

one of if not the fatal flaw with new urbanism is that you can't really do much about the comprehensive suburban matrix being hostile to pedestrians. the best you can do is site redevelopment to punch holes in the sprawl and hope that they vaguely connect up somehow, decades from now, with like a train or something

new urbanism is like the giant waving banner of leftist urbanist innovation in america and it spends most of its time hanging limply being endlessly discussed in academia while the political-developer alliance continues to make crazy money doing virgin site tract housing and strip malls

e: this is addressed to the thread in general but it's important. when an area moves from lower density to higher density, what do you do to the infrastructure which sustains that population? you upgrade its capacity. you build more power lines, build more schools and hospitals, install more utility/sewer lines, and so on. the problem is that transportation infrastructure, once placed, is really hard to move. you can dig more gas lines. you can't really root up an entire subdivision and put down urban blocks. of all the infrastructure that goes into building a human settlement, roadways and land lots are the least flexible. nearly all of the new development in america since 1950 has been specifically for cars, not people. yeah.

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jul 29, 2014

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp

ReindeerF posted:

Does anyone still have the city map that goon troll designed with the AIDS Camp in it? That was back when we had actually hilarious conservative trolls like Scrubber.

couldn't find it, drat. these popped up while looking though.



Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

ReindeerF posted:

Does anyone still have the city map that goon troll designed with the AIDS Camp in it? That was back when we had actually hilarious conservative trolls like Scrubber.

I don't think anyone would actually believe that D&D was full of Earnest Libertarian Discussions back in the day, or that one of the mods idealized Churchill.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

cafel posted:

I've seen some neat structures built out of cargo containers, but uh yeah, doesn't seem like the best kind of thing for human habitation.

They can look fairly decent once some effort is put in:




Main thing to keep in mind is that most of the walls don't need to be there for actual structural reasons.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Dreylad posted:

I don't think anyone would actually believe that D&D was full of Earnest Libertarian Discussions back in the day, or that one of the mods idealized Churchill.
Sometimes it reminds me of now, except instead of painful discussions on the minutiae of the particular strain of your snowflake ideology that you follow on the fringe right (e.g. "I'm not an AnCap, I'm a MinArchist") it's the same from the fringe left. God having to listen to those morons like Remedy go on in their niche politics code-speak was so loving painful.

EDIT: Also, is this a good time for someone to post the whole Remedy saga? Because that is some hilarious poo poo.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jul 29, 2014

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
It is very important that I not pay correct taxes on this internet space bux converted to real money i embezzled, your honor.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Also prosecution and enlisting in the Army.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

there's lots of buddhist sects and it's all tied up with nationalism and poo poo, i just like the food, which makes me the worst buddhist, i think

Well I'm no Buddha but I think that actually makes you a pretty good Buddhist.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

ReindeerF posted:

Does anyone still have the city map that goon troll designed with the AIDS Camp in it?

That guy's probably Steve Stockman by now

ReindeerF posted:

Sometimes it reminds me of now, except instead of painful discussions on the minutiae of the particular strain of your snowflake ideology that you follow on the fringe right (e.g. "I'm not an AnCap, I'm a MinArchist") it's the same from the fringe left. God having to listen to those morons like Remedy go on in their niche politics code-speak was so loving painful.

I'm a dark minarchist, the Native American genocide was necessary to increase the # of casinos

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

SedanChair posted:

That guy's probably Steve Stockman by now
That GOP candidate who got done for "cranking" and that Democrat who played WOW are both on my list of probable goons.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jul 29, 2014

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
any fans of white lung in the house? that is some good rear end music, in my opinion.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
So, we all gonna get Ebola and poop blood and die or what?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So, we all gonna get Ebola and poop blood and die or what?
My understanding is that I'm geographically more likely to get the plague, which is easy to cure.

Wrap it up ebolailures.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

ReindeerF posted:

Wrap it up ebolailures.

treasured8elief
Jul 25, 2011

Salad Prong

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So, we all gonna get Ebola and poop blood and die or what?

We'll see in two or three weeks how many countries Mr. International Airport managed to infect :(

treasured8elief fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jul 29, 2014

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Yeah no literally wrap it up that poo poo is hella contagious okay?

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So, we all gonna get Ebola and poop blood and die or what?

It's not airborne, so just don't drink contaminated water, eat contaminated food, or share bodily fluids with someone who's infected and you should be fine?

edit: v Or that. :geno:

Hedera Helix fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jul 29, 2014

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Hedera Helix posted:

It's not airborne, so just don't drink contaminated water, eat contaminated food, or share bodily fluids with someone who's infected and you should be fine?

Or get bitten by a monkey, I think?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
The Hot Zone is a fascinating book. I have no idea about the science, but it's a great read. Outbreak, the movie, was pretty hilariously awful.

Has there ever been a disease outbreak movie (non-zombie, so no Boyle or Zombieland) that was any good? Like the scientific type? And, no, Soderbergh's piece of poo poo Contagion was not good. If you want a good chuckle, go back and watch the original Andromeda Strain. Holy poo poo is that funny.

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!

ReindeerF posted:

The Hot Zone is a fascinating book. I have no idea about the science, but it's a great read. Outbreak, the movie, was pretty hilariously awful.

Has there ever been a disease outbreak movie (non-zombie, so no Boyle or Zombieland) that was any good? Like the scientific type? And, no, Soderbergh's piece of poo poo Contagion was not good. If you want a good chuckle, go back and watch the original Andromeda Strain. Holy poo poo is that funny.

The Stand (which was a TV series adaptation of a Stephen King novel, not a movie, but whatevs) was pretty good, although I've only seen it once, and that was a decade ago. I'm not sure if it would hold up today. Do be aware that the resolution to the plot comes out of nowhere, and the CGI is pretty goofy.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
e: I'm dumb.

ReindeerF posted:

Outbreak, the movie, was pretty hilariously awful.

What was the deal with that movie? I never got around to seeing it. Was Dustin Hoffman just unconvincing as an action star?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
It was one of those flicks where everything is just hilariously stupid. Petersen's unpredictable. Sometimes you get Das Boot and sometimes you get Poseidon.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009
Yeah, he's a rangy director, even in the space of one movie. Look at "Troy" - lots to like in that movie, but a lot to hate too. (seriously, who tells the story of "The Iliad" and decides to remove the Greek gods from it?)

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

ReindeerF posted:

The Hot Zone is a fascinating book. I have no idea about the science, but it's a great read. Outbreak, the movie, was pretty hilariously awful.

Has there ever been a disease outbreak movie (non-zombie, so no Boyle or Zombieland) that was any good? Like the scientific type? And, no, Soderbergh's piece of poo poo Contagion was not good. If you want a good chuckle, go back and watch the original Andromeda Strain. Holy poo poo is that funny.

Seconding the Hot Zone as a very interesting read. The detail Richard Preston put into that work blew my 12 year old brain.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Majorian posted:

(seriously, who tells the story of "The Iliad" and decides to remove the Greek gods from it?)

lol, what?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

nutranurse posted:

lol, what?

The movie "Troy" basically tried to tell the story of "The Iliad," but the only supernatural thing in it, besides Achilles (Brad Pitt, who was good) being a badass, was his mom popping out of nowhere to tell him he was going to die at Troy. Otherwise, David Benioff, the screenwriter (of Game of Thrones fame), decided he was going to make it realistic, maaaaan. And it sucked.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
I love Peter O'Toole and Brendan Gleeson and they made that movie for me, but it was awful. As was O'Toole's "Paris has loved many women and many women have loved Paris but..." speech in his late, great Hepburn accent.

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

The Gleeson/Bloom fight is still really entertaining

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS9kqq6PNnQ

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

ReindeerF posted:

I love Peter O'Toole and Brendan Gleeson and they made that movie for me, but it was awful. As was O'Toole's "Paris has loved many women and many women have loved Paris but..." speech in his late, great Hepburn accent.

Definitely, and that's what makes me sad about that movie: most of the performances were good. Orlando Bloom was weak, quelle surprise, but everyone else did good stuff with what they were given. But starting from the premise of taking a Greek epic poem set in the Age of Heroes, and then taking out all the gods and magic and monsters and other fun stuff? Honestly, how could anybody have thought that was a good idea?

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
The Hot Zone terrified me for like a decade, some cruel person gave it to me in about sixth grade and I couldn't finish it until some time in college. Good book, but Ebola is some scary poo poo.

AstheWorldWorlds
May 4, 2011

Swan Oat posted:

The Hot Zone terrified me for like a decade, some cruel person gave it to me in about sixth grade and I couldn't finish it until some time in college. Good book, but Ebola is some scary poo poo.

The part where he is describing the monkeys in that lab being taken out in bags as more soup than animal was pretty scary. Still sticks with me. Oh also the part where the doctor cuts themselves accidentally while working on an infected specimen and they are peeling off the layers of the containment suit trying to see how far the breach was, that was also a really well done but deeply unnerving scene.

Oh, speaking of Troy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPaj8lR786s

AstheWorldWorlds fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Jul 29, 2014

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

ReindeerF posted:

Has there ever been a disease outbreak movie (non-zombie, so no Boyle or Zombieland) that was any good? Like the scientific type? And, no, Soderbergh's piece of poo poo Contagion was not good. If you want a good chuckle, go back and watch the original Andromeda Strain. Holy poo poo is that funny.
Depends on how you count Twelve Monkeys I guess?

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!

Dreylad posted:

I was in northern Portugal recently and got served chicken stomach and it was pretty good! They also have a ton of game meat. It's a red meat paradise, also the landscape is gorgeous, and the vinho verde flows like water. I get the feeling that Portugal is like the destination for a lot of English people because Portugal's economy is in the shitter from the recession and a tenth of their population leaving because their Prime Minister told Portuguese young people that they're overqualified and should go look for work outside the country.


Tripas are delicious. I think it came about because all the good meat got shipped out to the sailors, and people in Porto were left with the offals, so you get tripas (tripe).

Also the reason why people from Porto are sometimes nicknamed "Tripeiros".

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Dreylad posted:

I don't think anyone would actually believe that D&D was full of Earnest Libertarian Discussions back in the day, or that one of the mods idealized Churchill.

its still pretty funny to me that the actual, honest to god Communist D&D mod was turfed out by a vote from kooky left-wing LF.

midnightclimax
Dec 3, 2011

by XyloJW

paranoid randroid posted:

its still pretty funny to me that the actual, honest to god Communist D&D mod was turfed out by a vote from kooky left-wing LF.

Who was that?

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Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Dreylad posted:

I don't think anyone would actually believe that D&D was full of Earnest Libertarian Discussions back in the day, or that one of the mods idealized Churchill.

D&D used to be full-on conservative. I remember when saying that Saddam might not have WMDs would get you hounded out for being a crazy leftie.

They also really didn't like Islam http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1372067

Gum fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Jul 29, 2014

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