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pkells
Sep 14, 2007

King of Klatch

AurumDude posted:

Is it true that while using your Post 9/11 bill that if you chose to live in a dormitory, your monthly pay can be taken? I'm getting out in a few months and looking forward to living on campus (because I am cheap), and I'd like to make sure I'm not inadvertently screwing my pay over (again because I'm cheap).

How exactly is living on campus in any way cheap? If you really are cheap, go find an apartment 10-15 minutes away from campus and get a roommate or two. It will cost you far less than paying on-campus room and board.

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gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT
There's no way a dorm is a better option for you. Look around.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


You'll get more pussy (or cock, whatever floats) if you have an off-campus apartment, because people will think you're awesome.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Yea man without an apartment, there's no way you can swim in gender-neutral sexual orifice.

edit: genderfluid fuckhole :stare:

bloops fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jul 16, 2014

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I'm weighing out burning benefit months on a minor vs saving the time for grad school. With that being said, eBenefits lists me as having 25 months, 17 days of time left. The difference of benefit time saved would be about 2.5 months, which would leave me 5 months and some change left for grad school.

I guess what I'm asking is if a career-related minor is worth burning up Post-9/11 time.

edit: now that I look at it, I still will be well short of enough benefits time for a masters.

bloops fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jul 25, 2014

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Nobody cares about your minors unless that minor is in math, because it probably means "I'm smart enough that I went to DiffEq despite not needing it"

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Cleared hot on women's studies then! :getin:

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I paid for one term of my masters instead of using my GI Bill...I started on active duty so no BAH, and if I pursue a phd those funbux are going to go much further. If not, I'll be taking all kinds of bullshit just to burn it.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Granted 2.5 of extra benefits doesn't sound like a lot, but yea that's almost 3 months of rent right there. I just need to decide if a minor is worth it now so I can start taking the classes or not.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
For a minor...if you think you'll learn something helpful, maybe. If it's so you show it on your transcript, no. Nobody even asks what your minor was.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Godholio posted:

For a minor...if you think you'll learn something helpful, maybe. If it's so you show it on your transcript, no. Nobody even asks what your minor was.

That's kind of all I want it for: to flesh out my resume some as a marketing minor compliments PR & advertising.

STOP LAUGHING YOU GUYS

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT
Don't count on a minor mattering man. Either take something fun or take something you think will personally help you, don't hold your breath on it being a resume bump.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Cool. Appreciate the input.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Not enough time to double major?

eeboweebo
Nov 17, 2005

Behold Duke Nukem
And die a painful death
Hail to the King, baby.
Question: I haven't received my CoE yet from the VA (which I found out was a result of me putting the same number for my apartment number as I did for my building address, d'oh) and though it is on its way, I checked the VA and under my benefits information, it lists the number of credit hours I'm slated to attend for the semester, even though I've never told the VA this information. Did my CertOff just go ahead and let them know without my needing to send the CoE, or is it just a formality that needs me to send the document once I eventually receive it in order to fully certify it, so I can get paid and buy my books and supplies?

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

eeboweebo posted:

Question: I haven't received my CoE yet from the VA (which I found out was a result of me putting the same number for my apartment number as I did for my building address, d'oh) and though it is on its way, I checked the VA and under my benefits information, it lists the number of credit hours I'm slated to attend for the semester, even though I've never told the VA this information. Did my CertOff just go ahead and let them know without my needing to send the CoE, or is it just a formality that needs me to send the document once I eventually receive it in order to fully certify it, so I can get paid and buy my books and supplies?

He technically broke a rule by certifying you without your CoE in hand, probably under the assumption that it's going to arrive long before an audit. Which it will, because audits are usually done in the end of winter and beginning of summer. So get that to him when it arrives.

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re: major/minor chat:

With a few exceptions (Engineering, degrees that end in certifications), a bachelors is a bachelors. Unless you got a 4.0/4.0 or 4.3/4.3, nobody cares. If you got a minor, nobody cares. If you double major MAYBE POSSIBLY someone might care, namely graduate schools. But employers don't care. At least, not enough that having it will set you apart.

More and more employers are running their poo poo through a filter beforehand. You know, the online applications that you have a box that says "What is the highest level of education you have completed?". People that pick double majors, minors, people with bad GPAs, people with good GPAs, they all check off "Bachelors". Then someone with graduate school completed comes in and will probably eat everyone's lunch.

Here's what's important: What is your major, and what did you do for your internship. You DID take an internship, right? RIGHT?

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Yea dude. I'm working a paid internship now plus doing a year-long PR thing with a school group. I'm padding out my free time with actual career-related endeavors. That's something everybody oughta be doing just like you said.

Pandasmores
May 8, 2009

How good would an Associate's in General Studies be going into school? If I got one through Columbia, do any of you know if those credits would transfer to something like Poly tech in San Luis Obispo or anything through your own personal experience?

I keep hearing all this talk from some of the Chiefs that are civilians now, but they're pretty much just working admin jobs or jobs that they got because they got certified in it before they got out like some of the substance abuse counselors and nurses.

Honestly I just don't want to take classes and waste my time if I'm just going to have to take them again at a different date.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
It depends on the school you're getting the credits from and the school you're looking to transfer them to. If it's from like a CCAF or a for-profit school, don't expect to get jack poo poo from a legit university.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
The absolute limit for most schools is somewhere in the 60 credit range to transfer in, though if you're exceptionally lucky you might get up around 70. This depends on a huge number of factors including but not limited to: the school it came from, the school it's going to, and the material covered. Not all classes are equal, and you may have to present a syllabus to get credits accepted.

It's pretty much impossible to say if class X from Y school will be accepted by Z school at a later date. The only exception would be getting classes done from a feeder school (community college) that has a deal established with a state school.

As far as would an Associate's in General Studies be good for getting into another school? Yes, yes it would. Provided it's from a legitimate school and you have a good GPA, it certainly would not hurt.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I cannot state it enough: fill out loss of income appeals if your tax return doesn't match your current income level. My school awarded me $0 Pell Grant money until I filed the loss of income appeal with a letter stating my current financial standing, W-2 stubs, and my tax return. It took me about 40 minutes of work and now I was awarded a maxed out Pell Grant for this upcoming academic year.

Stay on top of this poo poo.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

holocaust bloopers posted:

I cannot state it enough: fill out loss of income appeals if your tax return doesn't match your current income level. My school awarded me $0 Pell Grant money until I filed the loss of income appeal with a letter stating my current financial standing, W-2 stubs, and my tax return. It took me about 40 minutes of work and now I was awarded a maxed out Pell Grant for this upcoming academic year.

Stay on top of this poo poo.

This a million times. Same story with me, THANKS OBAMA!!!

MancXVI
Feb 14, 2002

holocaust bloopers posted:

I cannot state it enough: fill out loss of income appeals if your tax return doesn't match your current income level. My school awarded me $0 Pell Grant money until I filed the loss of income appeal with a letter stating my current financial standing, W-2 stubs, and my tax return. It took me about 40 minutes of work and now I was awarded a maxed out Pell Grant for this upcoming academic year.

Stay on top of this poo poo.

Is it retroactive? My school said I have to wait until six months after my loss of income to file which puts it in the middle of the fall semester.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

MancXVI posted:

Is it retroactive? My school said I have to wait until six months after my loss of income to file which puts it in the middle of the fall semester.

Don't know. I've filed one immediately after the financial aid office notifies me of financial aid for the next academic year.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

I got denied because I used unemployment and that income was too much. Can I still get a Pell? I don't know what documentation I'd need. I'm still unemployed.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

blue squares posted:

I'm still unemployed.

Yup get used to that.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
^^^^
really good.


blue squares posted:

I got denied because I used unemployment and that income was too much. Can I still get a Pell? I don't know what documentation I'd need. I'm still unemployed.

Pretty sure you hosed yourself by drawing unemployment. That's like double dipping, which you cannot do. But go ahead and file a loss of income appeals explaining that, at some point, you're not drawing unemployment any more.

Buck up, though. With the dual threat of a rhetoric and philosophy undergrad, you'll be crushing it soon enough.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

gleep gloop posted:

Yup get used to that.

Nice.
Though the unemployment wasn't all for nothing. I got 11k out of it and paid off my credit card. I'll most likely be going straight to grad school, and have no interest in ever working for a for-profit company (except for MAYBE a publishing company), which just isn't something people here seem to understand. Making lots of money isn't going to make me a happy, fulfilled person (which is good since I probably never will).

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bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
I, too, hate having the ability and financial standing to pay for housing and food.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

blue squares posted:

Nice.
Though the unemployment wasn't all for nothing. I got 11k out of it and paid off my credit card. I'll most likely be going straight to grad school, and have no interest in ever working for a for-profit company (except for MAYBE a publishing company), which just isn't something people here seem to understand. Making lots of money isn't going to make me a happy, fulfilled person (which is good since I probably never will).

Publishing is only technically for profit these days.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

blue squares posted:

Nice.
Though the unemployment wasn't all for nothing. I got 11k out of it and paid off my credit card. I'll most likely be going straight to grad school, and have no interest in ever working for a for-profit company (except for MAYBE a publishing company), which just isn't something people here seem to understand. Making lots of money isn't going to make me a happy, fulfilled person (which is good since I probably never will).

You don't seem to get the fact that when you're "happy" it's actually sitting on the edge of a financial cliff. Being poor loving sucks - enjoy having anxiety about paying bills, or hoping that whatever hurts today won't hurt tomorrow. Enjoy never being able to go on a vacation to somewhere that's actually nice. Enjoy having a car that burns oil faster than gas because you can't shell out the cash to get a new one. But it's totally cool man, you're doing something you love.

What you still don't seem to get is that you don't have to make lots of money to be happy. But you need to make some, and that some is more than you'll probably ever make writing. Because writing is a trap that dumb idiot fuckers like you fall into. You're not talented enough to make even a decent living wage off it, and I can say that with some pretty high confidence because the numbers are against you. You'll never make the next great american novel, and you're probably not likely to even make a living selling Kindle smut for 99 cents. Your best hope is to be a half rate, blog/Tumblr D-lister pulling 56 dollars a month off adsense revenue churning out titles like the classic "Taken by the T-Rex" or making niche incest porn stories.

You're spending time, effort and money taking classes in a dead major (Rhetoric) and a major that exists to teach children (English). When your GI Bill runs out you are hosed. That fucker is your main source of income and it will end. You know how much money you get taking 100% loans for grad school? You get around 6k a semester. Six thousand dollars to live for four and a half months. Then you'll have your MFA or whatever the gently caress stupid degree you think is the golden ticket and then you'll be told you're overqualified for entry jobs.

So I guess congratulations on squandering the one loving chance that you as a veteran have to actually climb the social class ladder by having the government pay someone to tell you to read some books. YOU CAN DO THAT ON YOUR OWN loving TIME YOU INCREDIBLY STUPID gently caress. If you love that bullshit so much DO IT AS A MINOR FOR YOUR ELECTIVES.

Oh gently caress it, you're a dumb loving oval office. Keep doing what you're doing.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Vasudus rants are my favorite thing.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


You know you've hosed up when you've upset Vasudus. You're a bad poster, no one wants you here, and you told us you weren't coming back. You keep not following this promise so I'm making this a mandate enforced by probations and bannings. Go away blue squares and take your absurdly bullshit stories about your hot roommate that you totally bang somewhere else.
--

Thanks for listening and now we return our readers to their regularly scheduled Vasudus education thread.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

holocaust bloopers posted:

Vasudus rants are my favorite thing.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

holocaust bloopers posted:

Vasudus rants are my favorite thing.

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night


Let's not derail this really good thread with talking about blue squares. Take it back to the drunk thread.

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

holocaust bloopers posted:

I cannot state it enough: fill out loss of income appeals if your tax return doesn't match your current income level. My school awarded me $0 Pell Grant money until I filed the loss of income appeal with a letter stating my current financial standing, W-2 stubs, and my tax return. It took me about 40 minutes of work and now I was awarded a maxed out Pell Grant for this upcoming academic year.

Stay on top of this poo poo.
Came in to ask why I may have been turned down for Pell Grant, found holly bloops with the alley oop.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D
Just curious is the GI bill bah paid for the month that is coming or the month that has passed?

For example I got my first bah yesterday. Is that for July or August? Should I expect another one in a couple days?

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009
So due to the advice of this thread, I'm going to go to my financial aid office and ask for a professional judgement since I didn't get a Pell Grant this year. So I know in advance, what will they need from me to make the judgement? Do the GI Bill housing allowances count as income for the purposes of determining Pell Grant eligibility? I haven't started pulling unemployment yet, but was planning to start in August since I didn't get a Pell. I like money.

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gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

TheQuietWilds posted:

So due to the advice of this thread, I'm going to go to my financial aid office and ask for a professional judgement since I didn't get a Pell Grant this year. So I know in advance, what will they need from me to make the judgement? Do the GI Bill housing allowances count as income for the purposes of determining Pell Grant eligibility? I haven't started pulling unemployment yet, but was planning to start in August since I didn't get a Pell. I like money.

GI Bill BAH never ever ever counts as income for anything ever.

edit: At least as far as financial aid stuff goes. Don't know if an ex wife can go after it or w/e.

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