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I got the first trade of FBP and I like it enough to wait for the next trade. The art is fantastic and the premise is cool. It just needs a-lot more character work for it to be a must read.
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Jul 15, 2014 05:51
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Really enjoying the Wolf Among Us got me to go back and re-read the first couple volumes of Fables. Oof, they did not age well. The exposition is so clumsy (at one point Bigby asks how Bluebeard is so rich), the mystery is terrible, and in general it's just a bunch of simple deconstruction that feels like it's made to appeal directly to Hot Topic kids too young to have read any Sandman. I remember it gets better, but I wouldn't complain if Wolf Among Us made whatever changes it wanted, as in general I feel like the Telltale people developed a tone and did a far better job establishing character than the first 10 issues of the comics did.
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Jul 16, 2014 00:04
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Hakkesshu posted:
Also, don't bother with Jack of Fables. Absolute mess of twee metafiction that goes nowhere.
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Jul 16, 2014 01:48
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I can't really put into words how much it bothers me that vertigo quarterly has an ad on the back.
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Sandman #3 was entirely worth the wait. Holy moly, what a beautiful comic. Nothing has ever looked like this before; it's a superlative work even for Williams and Gaiman. Also, the final issue of The Wake was dense enough that it probably merits a second readthrough. It's pretty out there but not remotely in a bad way. Kull the Conqueror fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 03:52
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Bodies was pretty interesting. Anyone try CMYK Magenta? I'm hearing it's much better than Cyan was.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Also, the final issue of The Wake was dense enough that it probably merits a second readthrough. It's pretty out there but not remotely in a bad way. No, it's just bad. What a complete letdown.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Sandman #3 was entirely worth the wait. Holy moly, what a beautiful comic. Nothing has ever looked like this before; it's a superlative work even for Williams and Gaiman. Yeah it was great. What artists styles are being referenced (if they are all referencing someone) at the start there where the different forces are being amassed? The first one with the Monks of Klaa is Brandon Graham, the third one is obviously Moebius. But I don't recognise the others, though that second panel with the Resplendent Jury is super familiar. e: Just noticed the planet on that page is Mogo  Jedit posted:No, it's just bad. What a complete letdown. Yeah in the end I'm not sure what to think about the Wake. That ending certainly came out of left field, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but ultimately I'm feeling a bit dissatisfied with the whole thing. I think maybe the whole series could have been better being little bit longer, mostly the second half, just to flesh out a few of the ideas it had going on. That travelog in the ninth issue as they visit all those weird little post apocalyptic cultures being only a few pages was super disappointing. It could have been a ton of fun, would have loved to see it be a full issue.
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I really don't want to just rush towards saying it was bad but now even looking back on it, I really have no idea what happened in the last issue, both in words and images.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Sandman #3 was entirely worth the wait. Holy moly, what a beautiful comic. Nothing has ever looked like this before; it's a superlative work even for Williams and Gaiman. Man, am I the only one that is having trouble with JHW III's Sandman layouts? There were multiple pages where he was doing cool things with the panels that made it next to impossible to tell if I was looking at a double page spread and whether or not I should read further across or move down for the next panel. Then there were pages in the latter half of the book where I couldn't even tell if I was reading dialog/narration in the right order. His pages look beautiful, but in a comic that is a textually driven as Sandman is, I would appreciate not having to pull myself out of reading it to figure out where I need to go next on the page.
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bairfanx posted:Man, am I the only one that is having trouble with JHW III's Sandman layouts? There were multiple pages where he was doing cool things with the panels that made it next to impossible to tell if I was looking at a double page spread and whether or not I should read further across or move down for the next panel. Then there were pages in the latter half of the book where I couldn't even tell if I was reading dialog/narration in the right order. You just have to look at it as a whole and it becomes obvious if it is a spread or not. I have that problem a lot though when I'm moving through it too fast.
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I think the word bubbles in the more staggering layouts are oriented to guide your eyes in the right direction.
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Senor Candle posted:You just have to look at it as a whole and it becomes obvious if it is a spread or not. I have that problem a lot though when I'm moving through it too fast. If I have to read a word balloon in one panel and then go and read another one in a different panel to figure out what order the panels need to be read in, they're doing something wrong. There's no obvious way to read the double page spread just before the last page, and it's because JHW III is playing around with layouts that he wants to look pretty and symmetric. 
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I didn't understand the last issue of Wake at all. Are the Mers aliens or what? I'm totally lost and confused 
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Jul 31, 2014 22:13
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Benny the Snake posted:Oh okay. What's everybody's favorite Hellblazer trade? Dangerous Habits is going to win every time. I don't think there's any sound argument against it, it's such a brilliant classic. Since I stopped reading during Mike Carey's run, after sitting through the Azzarello nonsense, I'm not entirely sure what would get number 2... But I really enjoyed Haunted.
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Benny the Snake posted:Oh okay. What's everybody's favorite Hellblazer trade? All of them other than Mina's and pieces of Azzarello's run. Hard Time and the one with him caught in a storm are pretty great.
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SalTheBard posted:I didn't understand the last issue of Wake at all. Are the Mers aliens or what? I'm totally lost and confused I don't think so from what I understand humans are. Humanity seeds our DNA throughout the galaxy so that planets with life will evolve a species of human. From monkey to man. So that the planet is capable of supporting human life? But then at the last minute they fly down and kill off that most evolved species, taking their place. Then they forget they were ever aliens at all, through the chemicals in the tears, and live out their lives happily on earth. The mermaids are a native species that likely also evolved from that human seed and which survived being purged be becoming or already being aquatic. And then once we were primitive again proceeded to wreck our poo poo
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Goatmask posted:I don't think so from what I understand humans are. Humanity seeds our DNA throughout the galaxy so that planets with life will evolve a species of human. From monkey to man. So that the planet is capable of supporting human life? But then at the last minute they fly down and kill off that most evolved species, taking their place. Then they forget they were ever aliens at all, through the chemicals in the tears, and live out their lives happily on earth. The mermaids are a native species that likely also evolved from that human seed and which survived being purged be becoming or already being aquatic. And then once we were primitive again proceeded to wreck our poo poo That actually makes sense. I read it again with that in mind and it actually did make some sense to me.
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Goatmask posted:I don't think so from what I understand humans are. Humanity seeds our DNA throughout the galaxy so that planets with life will evolve a species of human. From monkey to man. So that the planet is capable of supporting human life? But then at the last minute they fly down and kill off that most evolved species, taking their place. Then they forget they were ever aliens at all, through the chemicals in the tears, and live out their lives happily on earth. The mermaids are a native species that likely also evolved from that human seed and which survived being purged be becoming or already being aquatic. And then once we were primitive again proceeded to wreck our poo poo For a single issue, that is way too much exposition to dump on a ten-part series at once.
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The Wake really went off the deep end in it's second half. I liked it a whole lot more when it was being The Thing in the oil rig under the sea.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:For a single issue, that is way too much exposition to dump on a ten-part series at once. It's way too much to dump on any series in the last issue, especially when you follow up immediately with "THE END".
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Genetic Toaster posted:The Wake really went off the deep end in it's second half. I liked it a whole lot more when it was being The Thing in the oil rig under the sea. That's how I feel too
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Yeah, Snyder took his neat world and adventure, and slapped on an interesting but totally unearned metaphor at the end. It's like he just rushed to finish things. The Murphy/GM book sort of ended the same way, too.
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StumblyWumbly posted:Yeah, Snyder took his neat world and adventure, and slapped on an interesting but totally unearned metaphor at the end. It's like he just rushed to finish things. Joe the Barbarian? There's no slapped on metaphor in that book at all - everything unusual is Joe's hypoglycaemia-induced hallucinations.
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Okay, DMZ full run is on sale on Comixology. I haven't read it. I read and enjoyed Transmetropolitan, Preacher, Lucifer, Sandman, Scalped, Sweet Tooth, Y: The Last Man from Vertigo. The premise seems pretty interesting, and so did issue #1, but I don't tend to hear DMZ brought up nearly as often as the above series. From some initial research, seems like there's at least a solid group that really likes it, but everyone agrees it lags in the middle. Is there anything more in-depth to say about it?
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Neat-o. I still haven't finished the Sandman, Preacher, Transmet or Scalped complete runs I bought from Comixology sales, but I'll add this to the pile.
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onefish posted:Okay, DMZ full run is on sale on Comixology. I haven't read it. I read and enjoyed Transmetropolitan, Preacher, Lucifer, Sandman, Scalped, Sweet Tooth, Y: The Last Man from Vertigo. I thought it was a really neat premise but the book doesn't seem to commit to it fully, really. I got through the first oversized hardcover and decided to pass on the rest.
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I still haven't finished DMZ; it definitely drooped in volume 5 and I haven't continued with it yet beyond vol. 6. However, the first four volumes (1-22) are stupendous, especially 18-22. Wood's science fiction is very grounded in contemporary geopolitics (dude does more research than a lot of writers), and as such it might come off to some as detrimentally didactic, but I think he sets a great and engaging tone. I also think his current series, The Massive, is an improvement over the kind of work he did with DMZ.
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Jedit posted:Joe the Barbarian? There's no slapped on metaphor in that book at all - everything unusual is Joe's hypoglycaemia-induced hallucinations. I was thinking about Joe. I haven't read it since it came out, but I thought it was trying to make some larger point about Joe's dead father or something.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:I still haven't finished DMZ; it definitely drooped in volume 5 and I haven't continued with it yet beyond vol. 6. However, the first four volumes (1-22) are stupendous, especially 18-22. Wood's science fiction is very grounded in contemporary geopolitics (dude does more research than a lot of writers), and as such it might come off to some as detrimentally didactic, but I think he sets a great and engaging tone. I also think his current series, The Massive, is an improvement over the kind of work he did with DMZ. It's funny how for years all I heard was how depressing DMZ was but then when I tried reading it all I could think was "man, if this happened in real life it would be so much worse."
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I recently sat down and reread The Unwritten from start to this weeks issue in one sitting. Oh my god, you guys. With the exception of the unfortunate Fables "crossover", this is the best book. And (relatively) soon, it's all going away
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I don't post to this subforum often but it seems pretty small so I'm going to assume we rarely do individual threads for comics led alone miniseries but I had to post somewhere. I just caught up with The Sandman - Overture and I'm loving loving it! I've enjoyed pretty much anything Gaiman has written with the character but have been blown away by this so far. It's possible that I've just been without new content from the character for so long that I'm biased but the story is firing on all cylinders for me and the art is just superb. I had a harder time following the panels than the average comic perhaps but didn't find it too difficult and actually enjoyed that they were a bit more challenging for the sake of creativity. I'm looking to read Hellblazer again and am wondering if there are any notably bad arcs to avoid. I can't recall where I stopped last time to be honest though I know I loved a lot of the early stuff, it's just that 300 issues is a lot and I have a hard time believing any series could maintain that quality throughout. I'd also agree with those above that say Dangerous Habits is the best TPB even having not read the whole series, it's just brilliant. Levin fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Corte posted:I'm looking to read Hellblazer again and am wondering if there are any notably bad arcs to avoid. Anything with "Azzarello" on the cover. Most of the rest is at least tolerable, though Denise Mina didn't cover herself in glory.
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Jedit posted:Anything with "Azzarello" on the cover. But those are the best ones
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:But those are the best ones You're thinking of Jamie Delano.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:But those are the best ones You are entitled to your opinion, but I prefer to read John Constantine: Hellblazer when it has John Constantine in it.
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Jedit posted:You are entitled to your opinion, but I prefer to read John Constantine: Hellblazer when it has John Constantine in it. You should try the Azzarello run, it's good. Pope Guilty posted:You're thinking of Jamie Delano. Yeah Delano and most of the Ennis run are probably better but Azzarello's a solid 3rd place. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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