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Shavnir posted:Can you tell me who to e-mail? I just put an address onto my profile. Andrew Heckt on Facebook posted:Hi all, @Ciprion Maricon: Dunno about the letter, but the Magic Judges FB page has confirmed all Judges are getting these.
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Speaking of that Stiflechat from a few days ago, I found this comment from Worth Wollpert pretty amusing regarding the use of Stifle: "Only card design team I've been on was Scourge (I have many designs in other sets, but lots in Scourge) and I remember that the act of drawing a card for your turn used to be a triggered ability in the comp rules. During playtesting, I got to put stifle in isochron's scepter exactly once before then-rules-manager Paul Barclay modified the comp rules basically on the spot. . ."
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Jul 31, 2014 00:05
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mehall posted:@Ciprion Maricon: Dunno about the letter, but the Magic Judges FB page has confirmed all Judges are getting these. Cool, I'm excited to get these. EDIT: It's interesting to note how out in the cold lots of L1s feel when many immediately ask if they are included in something for all Judges. Very cool of Heckt to jump in and make sure everyone gets them though. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 00:08
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Angry Grimace posted:Speaking of that Stiflechat from a few days ago, I found this comment from Worth Wollpert pretty amusing regarding the use of Stifle: Ha, that's pretty funny. Whoopsie! edit: also, reprint Isochron Scepter.
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Jul 31, 2014 00:10
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Cool, I'm excited to get these. I think it's to do with how little recognition a lot of L1s get. I think the new Exemplar program gives a good chance for non-GP judges to get the occasional promo foil, and I think that especially helps the L1's who only really ever judge at one, maybe 2 local stores.
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Jul 31, 2014 00:13
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biopanda posted:Pop in the stream and the first thing I see are pony sleeves Yeah he also was showing off a pony altered cryptic command. His play mat is mlp too. Good player though.
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Jul 31, 2014 00:19
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mehall posted:I think it's to do with how little recognition a lot of L1s get. It's part of the growing pains of the program. There's a whole lot of relatively new Judges, and with GP Work exclusively the purview of experienced Judges there has been little opportunity to integrate the new Judges into the wider community. mehall posted:I think the new Exemplar program gives a good chance for non-GP judges to get the occasional promo foil, and I think that especially helps the L1's who only really ever judge at one, maybe 2 local stores. It's a positive step but its going to be rocky at first. PTOs are going to have to pony up a lot more compensation to make Judging not a significant net loss for the Judges working 10+ hours staffing them. The community just hasn't properly assimilated the huge numbers of new Judges and that poses an obstacle. There was something very meritocratic about "work a GP = get foils" It's going to take a lot of effort from people to make sure the exemplar program doesn't start feeling insular. You have stuff like the situation in West Virginia, easily over 20 active Judges but not a single L2 in the State. So right now, there is zero way for the guys and gals working in WV to get any recognition because only L2s can recognize Judges for the exemplar program. I'm optimistic and I hope as the program gets sorted out things will work well but there are definitely some obstacles.
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Jul 31, 2014 00:37
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West Virginia's gonna have a rough time with the PreTQ system. Thankfully there's already like 4 L2s in my city (and 2 more testing this weekend  ) so I'm pretty sure we'll have all our PreTQs covered.
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Jul 31, 2014 00:52
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Shavnir posted:West Virginia's gonna have a rough time with the PreTQ system. In what way? It's actually going to be very interesting. For example within a 1 hour Radius of Charleston there are 4 or 5 Stores that are Advanced WPN locations and can Schedule PreTQs, that's potentially 4 PreTQs within a pretty small geographical with a small player base compared to other places with 4+ stores so close. Relevant events already draw significantly from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia, and the TOs here are decently established. If the requirements for PreTQs are an L2 or above (as they likely will be) the TO's here are used to it and have been paying the money to bring L2s and L3s in for PTQs, States, and other high level events for years, a lack of local L2s won't present an obstacle as far as organizing the events imo. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 01:02
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This Two-Headed Games stream is showing U/R Delver vs. Living End on camera but I can hear right next to those guys playing that there's a dude running out a Necromancer's Stockpile/Waste Not deck and that's not being shown.
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Jul 31, 2014 01:05
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I wonder if all 20 stores in Baltimore are going to run PreTQs. It may as well be its own region at that point.
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Jul 31, 2014 02:03
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Ciprian Maricon posted:In what way? Helene already confirmed L2+ for PreTQ HJ.
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Jul 31, 2014 02:07
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Ramos posted:Oh, wow. Ha ha, nice. That's an intro to web development sort of mistake. I really want to post a big list of all the things about the new DailyMTG site that make me angry as both a web designer and an internet user. I emailed Wizards about some bugs that can be fixed with simple lines of CSS over a week ago. They haven't responded yet.
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Jul 31, 2014 02:39
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Rules of Morph are not changing. So I guess flipping doesn't go on the stack, which still feels a bit weird to me, but hey, whatever.
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Jul 31, 2014 04:13
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Ramos posted:Rules of Morph are not changing. So I guess flipping doesn't go on the stack, which still feels a bit weird to me, but hey, whatever. I'm struggling to see how it could be made to use the stack sensibly. Paying for a morph, without your opponent being able to see what ability you're activating seems silly. It would also require them to know every morph creature by morph cost to be able to respond appropriately.
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Jul 31, 2014 04:30
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The only thing I hate about morph is the cheating potential of swinging for game with a 2/2 when its just a mountain.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:01
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I really don't see why that is such a huge concern. When the game is over, or it changes zones, the morph card is revealed. (Not sure about going back to your hand, actually). If its not a creature with morph, they lose automatically.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:05
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Inverse posted:The only thing I hate about morph is the cheating potential of swinging for game with a 2/2 when its just a mountain. It's been mentioned a few times but at the end of the game players are required to reveal morph cards.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:05
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Inverse posted:The only thing I hate about morph is the cheating potential of swinging for game with a 2/2 when its just a mountain. Good thing the Morph rule is that at the end of the game you need to flip all unmorphed cards, and if it's a card that isn't Morphable or you refuse to do so, you automatically lose. C-Euro posted:I wanna know whether or not face-down creatures are still going to be depicted as stone spiders in card art. Wasn't that Ixidor's thing, and isn't he dead? Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 05:05
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I wanna know whether or not face-down creatures are still going to be depicted as stone spiders in card art.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:06
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Inverse posted:The only thing I hate about morph is the cheating potential of swinging for game with a 2/2 when its just a mountain. When the game ends, a player is required by the rules to reveal any face down cards they have in play. So as long as you remember this rule, they can't cheat you. Well they can but, they would get punished for doing so in a tournament setting. If someone does it in a non-competitive setting, just tell all yours friends that that player is a cheater and not to play with that player again. EDIT: drat was I beaten hard.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:08
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I had no idea that was a rule sorry. Is it going to be printed on the card? last time it wasn't, Knowing you have to reveal all flipped down cards is not exactly a thing new players are going to know.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:10
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I'd say asking your opponent to flip their Morphs after the game is pretty intuitive, given how common the "But you can cheat with Morph!" idea is.Count Bleck posted:Wasn't that Ixidor's thing, and isn't he dead? Yup, Karona done killed him before she was written out of Magic for being awful. If I remember correctly, the Morph spiders didn't even factor into the novels. I'm not even sure how else you could express Morph creatures flavorfully, other than Ninjas in disguise or something like that.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:18
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Inverse posted:I had no idea that was a rule sorry. Is it going to be printed on the card? last time it wasn't, Knowing you have to reveal all flipped down cards is not exactly a thing new players are going to know. This is my problem. Sure, we all know, but what are the odds that you scoop your cards up after winning, only to realize afterwards that you didn't reveal your Morpher? If you're anything like me (and if you actually play standard,) it's approximately 100%. I hope they have some sort of flip card a la Innistrad to avoid that. I'm not entirely sure how they would do that though. I guess they would have to make the card with a 2/2 creature on one side and a checklist of all the Morphers on the other? It would only work in sleeves though, which seems to not be ideal.
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suicidesteve posted:This is my problem. Sure, we all know, but what are the odds that you scoop your cards up after winning, only to realize afterwards that you didn't reveal yourMorpher? If you're anything like me (and if you actually play standard,) it's approximately 100%. I hope they have some sort of flip card a la Innistrad to avoid that. I'm not entirely sure how they would do that though. I guess they would have to make the card with a 2/2 creature on one side and a checklist of all the Morphers on the other? It would only work in sleeves though, which seems to not be ideal. You do it once and a judge comes by and gives you a loss and then you don't forget to do it again. It's very straightforward : )
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suicidesteve posted:This is my problem. Sure, we all know, but what are the odds that you scoop your cards up after winning, only to realize afterwards that you didn't reveal your Morpher? If you're anything like me (and if you actually play standard,) it's approximately 100%. I hope they have some sort of flip card a la Innistrad to avoid that. I'm not entirely sure how they would do that though. I guess they would have to make the card with a 2/2 creature on one side and a checklist of all the Morphers on the other? It would only work in sleeves though, which seems to not be ideal. Wow a lot of people are going to get free wins from this. This mechanic is messy and is a relic from a dark time in magic.
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Inverse posted:Wow a lot of people are going to get free wins from this. This mechanic is messy and is a relic from a dark time in magic. Everyone who posts like this never played when morph was legal. There were probably four total morph cards that saw constructed play, and it was painfully obvious which particular morph you were playing based on the cards that came before it. It's a non-issue, stop worrying. Nobody's gonna cheat because it is so. loving. easy. to get caught.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:You do it once and a judge comes by and gives you a loss and then you don't forget to do it again. It's very straightforward : ) Man. If you had any idea how bad I am at these things. I put a die on my deck for Library triggers, move it to draw, and then forget about the library because the die isn't there anymore. Anyway, I don't really care. I only play standard casually to help newbies learn to play and/or to help people test decks. I haven't updated my standard decks since Theros (not that BOG/JOU/M15 added a single card I want to play to any of them.) But I can see a ton of feelbads from people who didn't know any better, and I can see other people taking advantage of them. Especially considering there's no game losses at REL. "Oops, I already shuffled my guy back in. It definitely had morph though." That's why I like the idea of some sort of Morph card. If the card tells you it's a morpher, then obviously it's not a 2/2 Mountain. Unless they give basic lands Morph! (Hire me Wizards. I'll work from home.)
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Jul 31, 2014 06:01
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Well, yes, if you don't call people on signs of cheating, then they get to cheat with no repercussions. This isn't exactly a mind-expanding point.
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How would putting some sort of indicator on the back of the card help things at all though? Literally all you've achieved is making the card marked, so now you have to sleeve it so that no-one can see the indicator anyway.
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Well it better be incredible for the potential of a simple innocent mistake such as shuffling into your deck and losing the game on the spot. The more I think about it the worse I think it was to bring this back? Did people even like it? It seems like too much pressure for me.
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The amount of fear in this thread pertaining to flipping over a card at the end of the game is astounding. Even if you don't remember, your opponent is probably going to want to see it and it'll be the first thing they ask when they lose the game.
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Inverse posted:Did people even like it? In constructed it seems really hard to have enough playable morphers in all colors to make it a real mystery what the face-down card is, and it's just going to be even more obvious if Morph is only around for a single set rather than a block. It sounds neat for limited, though. The impression I got is that very few people would rate Morph as the mechanic they most wanted to see return, but a lot would put it in their top 10.
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Inverse posted:Well it better be incredible for the potential of a simple innocent mistake such as shuffling into your deck and losing the game on the spot. The more I think about it the worse I think it was to bring this back? Did people even like it? It seems like too much pressure for me. Just fyi, if you're not paying attention to the procedure of the game at comp rel, then this probably isn't the only penalty you'll be getting. At regular, you're probably not getting a game loss. Probably something like caution->warning->game loss, at the judge's discretion.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:In constructed it seems really hard to have enough playable morphers in all colors to make it a real mystery what the face-down card is, and it's just going to be even more obvious if Morph is only around for a single set rather than a block. It sounds neat for limited, though. There were probably more constructed playable morphs the second time around (TS Block) than there were in Onslaught block, in part because Legions was such a trash can of a set from a power level perspective. That said, morph was pretty fun in limited except when you were playing against a red deck in OOO/OOL and they attacked their morph into your morph on turn 4.
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Skillface posted:The amount of fear in this thread pertaining to flipping over a card at the end of the game is astounding. Even if you don't remember, your opponent is probably going to want to see it and it'll be the first thing they ask when they lose the game. Not at Competitive REL. At serious competitive REL tournaments people will not say anything except "Judge!" 5 Seconds after you've shuffled in your morph card. Still, I think this will be mentioned in every player meeting so hopefully it won't be much of an issue.
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Its not that hard to remember to flip the cards over if you actually have morph creatures in your deck. Its really not.
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The whole "but I'll shuffle the morph cards back into my deck!" thing is a dumb as hell fear because you still have to flip the cards that are turned face down because you don't put cards into your deck face up. Seriously, in order to get them into your deck again, you have to flip them over again to begin with, they're not going to magically flip rightside up as they go back in your library.
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