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Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

I think every world in the cosmere was seeded from a central world because horses are a thing in every single cosmere book.

edit: also humans

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Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014

Xachariah posted:

I think every world in the cosmere was seeded from a central world because horses are a thing in every single cosmere book.

edit: also humans

Whats more, I think that central world is in the same solar system as Roshar.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Lobsterpillar posted:

Whats more, I think that central world is in the same solar system as Roshar.

We're talking about whatever they're referring to as the "Tranquiline Halls" yeah?

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

I was thinking more of the Dragonsteel world where the original shardholders came from, Yolen. From there they seed humans, horses, various flora and fauna on Roshar, Nalthis, Scadrial, Sel, Threnody and Taldain.

There are supposedly 3 planets in the Rosharan system which are Roshar, Ashyn, and Braize. The unpublished book where the magic is granted to people with disabilities is set on Ashyn and Braize is Odium's world (Damnation).

While searching for information I found this too:

Sanderson Interview posted:

Aethling
Where did humanity originate in the cosmere?
Brandon Sanderson
The first planet with humans on it was Yolen.

So it's the Dragonsteel place where the shardbearers come from and Adonalsium got fraged and it's not in same system as Roshar. Your guess is as good as mine if Yolen was original Tranquiline Halls though.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

I can only read that as YOLO.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Rumda posted:

Shinova is two small to have had a separate biological history without transplantation. We're talking about Spain not Australia here and that's only order branches not entire phyla.
I'm not following your rationale here, at least not as it applies to a fantasy world with highstorms and a nature god which specialises in both creation and evolution.

Certainly my impression of the world is that it was probably all like Shinovar, once, and then the highstorms started up at some point and hosed the whole world except that one little bit which is Shinovar, turning the rest of Roshar into a slime-blasted post-apocalyptic hellscape. I mean, we know the storms are the cause of Roshar's grim flora and fauna, and we know that the storms are somehow linked with Honor and Ruin (but not exactly how), and we know that Ruin wasn't always in the area (and as I recall there is reason to believe that Honor might not always have been on Roshar too), so I take that as good reason to suppose the Highstorms weren't always a feature of Roshar (and I am pretty sure this was hinted at directly somewhere, possibly one of Dalinar's flashbacks?). As such, there'd be no reason for the flora and fauna of contemporary Roshar to exist, because the conditions they live in now were not previously present. The theory I'd have is that the Highstorms killed the Earth-Standard Life everywhere except Shinovar, and Roshar's nature god Cultivated new forms of life which could survive in that harsh environment.

Maybe I missed a point where it was established that the Highstorms have always been a feature on Roshar, though.

New Yorp New Yorp
Jul 18, 2003

Only in Kenya.
Pillbug

Reveilled posted:

I'm not following your rationale here, at least not as it applies to a fantasy world with highstorms and a nature god which specialises in both creation and evolution.

Certainly my impression of the world is that it was probably all like Shinovar, once, and then the highstorms started up at some point and hosed the whole world except that one little bit which is Shinovar, turning the rest of Roshar into a slime-blasted post-apocalyptic hellscape. I mean, we know the storms are the cause of Roshar's grim flora and fauna, and we know that the storms are somehow linked with Honor and Ruin (but not exactly how), and we know that Ruin wasn't always in the area (and as I recall there is reason to believe that Honor might not always have been on Roshar too), so I take that as good reason to suppose the Highstorms weren't always a feature of Roshar (and I am pretty sure this was hinted at directly somewhere, possibly one of Dalinar's flashbacks?). As such, there'd be no reason for the flora and fauna of contemporary Roshar to exist, because the conditions they live in now were not previously present. The theory I'd have is that the Highstorms killed the Earth-Standard Life everywhere except Shinovar, and Roshar's nature god Cultivated new forms of life which could survive in that harsh environment.

Maybe I missed a point where it was established that the Highstorms have always been a feature on Roshar, though.

:eng101: Odium is the Roshar bad guy. Ruin is Mistborn.

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

Reveilled posted:

The theory I'd have is that the Highstorms killed the Earth-Standard Life everywhere except Shinovar, and Roshar's nature god Cultivated new forms of life which could survive in that harsh environment.

I had assumed that the high storms were a relatively recent feature, but that theory didn't account for the new life that was adapted to the new ecosystem. Cultivation having a direct hand in that adaptation would certainly explain a lot about that transition, and perhaps even Cultivation's currently limited influence on the world.

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd
gently caress yeah. Anti-Australia.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.
Tell me the truth; am i dumb for wanting to buy this?

http://www.michaelwhelan.com/shop/reproductions/all-reproductions/kings/

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

Meinberg posted:

I had assumed that the high storms were a relatively recent feature, but that theory didn't account for the new life that was adapted to the new ecosystem. Cultivation having a direct hand in that adaptation would certainly explain a lot about that transition, and perhaps even Cultivation's currently limited influence on the world.

There is a WoB that states that Roshar and the highstorms existed previous to humanity being a thing on Roshar. I will try adn find it.

Edit: Ok, it's a second hand account, but still valid I think -

quote:

Q: Do highstorms get weaker as they move west because of normal meteorological reasons the same way a hurricane gets weaker over land or is it because they slowly drain investiture as they infuse spheres over the whole continent?
A: Both. He said that anything like that will be affected by both normal science as well as the magic, but then he added that the highstorms are a natural occurring phenomenon that were on the planet before stuff started going down. I didn't get this confirmed, but I think he meant the stormlight part of the storm was added later, I'm assuming by a Shard.

Dravs fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jul 25, 2014

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003


Still not sure who that's supposed to be.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





socialsecurity posted:

Still not sure who that's supposed to be.

Dalinar, I think, saluting the Parshendi shardbearer (who turns out to be Eshonai in book 2).

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

ConfusedUs posted:

Dalinar, I think, saluting the Parshendi shardbearer (who turns out to be Eshonai in book 2).

Actually if you click zoom you can see it's someone with a spear, tattered clothes and a shield on their back. So I think it's Dalinar saluting Kaladin but I dont remember that scene in the book.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Micheal Whelan stated (at JordanCon 2013) that the characters were Dalinar (closer) saluting Kaladin, and that it wasn't supposed to depict a specific scene from the book.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

So in the past month I've gone through the entire Mistborn series and just finished Alloy of Law today. I really enjoyed the series. Does anyone know what his publication plan is right now? In the foreword to Alloy of Law, he mentioned that he envisioned a present and future set trilogy in the same universe and that the Alloy of Law series is a side bar to this plan, but it seems like he's setting up for a trilogy here first. Is he still planning on 8 more books? Also, is this his main focus right now or is he working on Stormlight Archives now?

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Xtanstic posted:

So in the past month I've gone through the entire Mistborn series and just finished Alloy of Law today. I really enjoyed the series. Does anyone know what his publication plan is right now? In the foreword to Alloy of Law, he mentioned that he envisioned a present and future set trilogy in the same universe and that the Alloy of Law series is a side bar to this plan, but it seems like he's setting up for a trilogy here first. Is he still planning on 8 more books? Also, is this his main focus right now or is he working on Stormlight Archives now?

BranSan is very open about his writing process. his website has a counter on the top-right that tells you his current progress. And yes, SA is supposed to be 10 books long, and there are meant to be a trilogy of trilogy set in the Mistborn universe (not including Alloy of Law, which is a separate thing from the main story and will possibly also be a trilogy)

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Xtanstic posted:

So in the past month I've gone through the entire Mistborn series and just finished Alloy of Law today. I really enjoyed the series. Does anyone know what his publication plan is right now? In the foreword to Alloy of Law, he mentioned that he envisioned a present and future set trilogy in the same universe and that the Alloy of Law series is a side bar to this plan, but it seems like he's setting up for a trilogy here first. Is he still planning on 8 more books? Also, is this his main focus right now or is he working on Stormlight Archives now?

Brandon Sanderson, about Shadows of Self posted:

Sigh. Too many books, too little time.

This one is still on the, um, middle burner? Stormlight is my primary project, and I feel I need to be consistent with getting those out. (With 18 month gaps at the most, if possible.) So we'll see where I can slip Shadows of Self in--most likely, I'll write it next summer.

The good news is I'm moderately confident I can have Stormlight 3 out a year from this fall.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Drunk Tomato posted:

BranSan is very open about his writing process. his website has a counter on the top-right that tells you his current progress. And yes, SA is supposed to be 10 books long, and there are meant to be a trilogy of trilogy set in the Mistborn universe (not including Alloy of Law, which is a separate thing from the main story and will possibly also be a trilogy)

Oh that's really neat. Digging around online on wikis I see that all his works share the same collective universe? Cool. Guess it's worth it to work my way through his older stuff.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

loving yes. I just finished WoR (I know I know, I'm am a slow reader) and it was great. The last 15% was a total page turner which I had to finish in one sitting. I was just talking to girlfriend that I'll be loving old by the time he finishes SA but ~1.5 year turnaround would be great since I'm craving more so good to know there may be another one next year.

I cheered when Adolin killed Sadeas. But it's probably going to lead to something bad and I get the impression he was setting up Kaladin and Shallan to eventually get together.

It's actually quite amazing how far Brandon Sanderson has come in terms of writing female characters. Between Emperor's Soul and WoR, he's really come a long way. Shallan was actually quite a pleasure to read this time around compared to four years ago where it was kinda so-so at best.

Time to pop Rithmatist on my kindle now.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Aug 1, 2014

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Xtanstic posted:

Oh that's really neat. Digging around online on wikis I see that all his works share the same collective universe? Cool. Guess it's worth it to work my way through his older stuff.

Not all his works, but most of them. Steelheart, Rithmatist, and Alcatrez are standalone. Basically, if it has any alternate version of Earth, it's out.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
Also Legion.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Damnit, BranSan, could you not have done your UK book tour in the one month in my life when I can't afford to randomly take a day off work to shoot across the country for a signing >.<

Sagnid
Jul 8, 2009
Having just finished the WOR audio book, and having enjoyed the narrator. I am left with a horrible thought. Does anyone know if the publisher plans on using the same guy? I had a horrible experience with Game of Thrones when they changed the narrator on us in book four.

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd
Dude did all of the WoT books and all of Sandersons other books. Barrimng a freak accident, I think we are safe.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Sagnid posted:

Having just finished the WOR audio book, and having enjoyed the narrator. I am left with a horrible thought. Does anyone know if the publisher plans on using the same guy? I had a horrible experience with Game of Thrones when they changed the narrator on us in book four.

My first audiobooks was all of Wheel of Time and then this, I honestly have trouble listening to books read by anyone other then the Michael/Kate team.

Sagnid
Jul 8, 2009
Very good, I may have to pick up WOT audio books. The team is very enjoyable.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

socialsecurity posted:

My first audiobooks was all of Wheel of Time and then this, I honestly have trouble listening to books read by anyone other then the Michael/Kate team.

http://www.audible.com/series/ref=a_search_c4_1_1_1srSrs_sa?asin=B005NB2IG0
http://www.audible.com/series/ref=a_search_c4_1_1_1srSrs_sa?asin=B00HQ1V06Y

Another couple of series to listen to if you want to ruin other audiobooks forever.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

The Dresden one is funny because there's a book where he goes through a monumental change (but it only lasts for that book) and they couldn't get the regular guy so you can pretend like the new guy is the protagonist in this new form.

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


Is Words of Radiance's paperback only in the UK right now? The only option seems to be to grab it off Amazon from an overseas retailer.

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD



If you really want to ruin audiobooks forever, listen to anything Neil Gaiman narrates. Ocean at the End of the Lane is the most recent one I listened to written/read by him and it was fantastic as usual.

hand-fed baby bird
May 13, 2009

thespaceinvader posted:

Damnit, BranSan, could you not have done your UK book tour in the one month in my life when I can't afford to randomly take a day off work to shoot across the country for a signing >.<

I'm booking the morning off to go to a signing in Liverpool this week. Really jealous of Manchester, he's doing a talk there but he's only signing here. I'm thinking of getting "I am a stick" written in the first stormlight novel, not yet decided on the second. Waterstones seem to be hosting a lot of fantasy authors lately, I was lucky to see Joe Abercrombie last month.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Glokta posted:

I'm booking the morning off to go to a signing in Liverpool this week. Really jealous of Manchester, he's doing a talk there but he's only signing here. I'm thinking of getting "I am a stick" written in the first stormlight novel, not yet decided on the second. Waterstones seem to be hosting a lot of fantasy authors lately, I was lucky to see Joe Abercrombie last month.

That's neat. Anything you're planning to ask him in the signing line?

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Glokta posted:

I'm booking the morning off to go to a signing in Liverpool this week. Really jealous of Manchester, he's doing a talk there but he's only signing here. I'm thinking of getting "I am a stick" written in the first stormlight novel, not yet decided on the second. Waterstones seem to be hosting a lot of fantasy authors lately, I was lucky to see Joe Abercrombie last month.

I am a stick is the second book.

Sagnid
Jul 8, 2009

I will have to check these out, thanks.


I recommend anything by Richard Poe myself.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Glokta posted:

I'm booking the morning off to go to a signing in Liverpool this week. Really jealous of Manchester, he's doing a talk there but he's only signing here. I'm thinking of getting "I am a stick" written in the first stormlight novel, not yet decided on the second. Waterstones seem to be hosting a lot of fantasy authors lately, I was lucky to see Joe Abercrombie last month.

Yeah I'm heading down to Liverpool tomorrow as well.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Ask him whose dog - out of all the dogs in the cosmere - could best fetch Stick.

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Aug 13, 2014

hand-fed baby bird
May 13, 2009

socialsecurity posted:

I am a stick is the second book.

So it is! I finished the first just as the second was released so they run together a bit in my head. You've spared me embarrassing myself. As for questions, I haven't come up with anything yet. I'm sure something will come to mind as I'm walking away.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Glokta posted:

So it is! I finished the first just as the second was released so they run together a bit in my head. You've spared me embarrassing myself. As for questions, I haven't come up with anything yet. I'm sure something will come to mind as I'm walking away.

I'd still ask for an "I am a stick" in the first book and explain it as the stick being temporally as well as existentially confused.

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socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Ask him to either kill Kalladin or stop torturing him so he don't have to tire ourselves reading about him being a constant sad sack.

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