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Just rewatched 'College' and it's one of those episodes where every time I finish it I think it could be the best TV episode ever made. It's so freaking perfect, jesus
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I listened to a long interview with David Chase from the 'Emmy Legends' interview series (I'm not entirely sure what that is). There's another long one with Matthew Weiner and one with Terrence Winter where they talk about the show, it has a lot of interesting tidbits. Near the end of the David Chase one, he refers to the 'Definitive Explanation' as the '230 page-long thing with the communion wafers' and says it's insane.
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Jul 28, 2014 19:40
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Bown posted:Just rewatched 'College' and it's one of those episodes where every time I finish it I think it could be the best TV episode ever made. It's so freaking perfect, jesus That one is always near the top of "best of" lists, not just from the Sopranos but from all of tv. Rightfully so.
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Jul 28, 2014 20:28
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Bown posted:Just rewatched 'College' and it's one of those episodes where every time I finish it I think it could be the best TV episode ever made. It's so freaking perfect, jesus "You want the cops to find out who burnt down the historical house?! We were volunteer firemen together, rear end in a top hat!"
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Jul 28, 2014 22:47
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seacat posted:Counterpoint: It's the scenes like these that actually sometimes made me root for the robot multinationals. (only sometimes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFQYw_MmAA (sips Starcostabucks tall low-fat Carmela-chiato; accounts for every last bean to Seattle.)
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Jul 29, 2014 05:49
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Here's an interesting article: http://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/the-1979-rockford-files-episode-that-inspired-the-sopranos/ Basically, David Chase wrote an episode of the Rockford Files that served as a backdoor pilot for a mob tv show that was never picked up. Years later he takes some of the same names and ideas and it became the Sopranos.
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Jul 30, 2014 04:00
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I just noticed the price of gas in the opening credits, $.97.
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Jul 30, 2014 14:33
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joebuddah posted:I just noticed the price of gas in the opening credits, $.97. Wow, holy poo poo you're right. 
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Jul 30, 2014 16:43
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That's what the price of gas was in the 90s.
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Jul 31, 2014 02:05
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Tao Jones posted:That's what the price of gas was in the 90s. After 9/11 the price dropped as low as $0.75 for a few weeks
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Jul 31, 2014 02:20
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True but I figured that it would have been higher in the NYC area. How old do you think AJ is while Tony is in the hospital? If memory serves it was two years after he graduated from high school, so he should be 20/21. But he was acting like a teenage brat
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Jul 31, 2014 02:31
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"We're leaving! Get your coat!" "...but I don't have a coat." I love Anthony Jr, that actor manages to nail the deadpan humor every time.
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Jul 31, 2014 02:38
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NJ has one of the lowest gas taxes in the country. That concludes this derail.
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Jul 31, 2014 02:44
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Tao Jones posted:That's what the price of gas was in the 90s. Yes I know that, I remember. I don't think of this as a 90s show though, even though it started in the late 90s. It seems like it just ended the other day. So it is surprising, that's all.
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Jul 31, 2014 03:29
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Other weird 90s things include the stolen airline tickets. The idea of being able to just walk up to a counter at the airport and hand over this envelope that you scored from a guy on the street to book a flight seems crazy now.
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Jul 31, 2014 03:36
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Ishamael posted:Let's relive everyone's favorite conversation. I just watched this scene. Holy poo poo. I am just glad I never dated a Edit: haha, how's that for a Freudian slip? Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 13:05
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Thing is, look at it from Finn's perspective. His girlfriend's father, who already flipped out because he did something nice like pay for dinner, got him an obviously shady job at a construction company. One guy he met threatened him if he didn't clean dog poo poo off his tires, then gave him a few hundred bucks when he found out he's dating Meadow. He's seen all kinds of fraudulent deals going on around him. Then he watched as one guy smashed a glass bottle in another guy's face, following it up with a beating, because he made a gay joke. And everyone else laughed as though it was a joke and blamed it on imaginary black guys. As if that wasn't bad enough, he got to work early and accidentally caught one of the more important guys in the group getting a blowjob from a security guard, and then was confronted and vaguely threatened in porta-potty. He explains all this to Meadow and her reaction is to call him a liar, insist that he's mistaken and defend everyone else involved. I think I'd be in a really hosed up state of mind as well, and probably not do and say a whole lot of things that make any sense. Including getting out a suitcase.
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Jul 31, 2014 13:23
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Pope Corky the IX posted:As if that wasn't bad enough, he got to work early and accidentally caught one of the more important guys in the group getting a blowjob from a security guard Not to nitpick... but wasn't Vito the one with a dick in his mouth?
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Jul 31, 2014 15:45
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insideoutsider posted:Not to nitpick... but wasn't Vito the one with a dick in his mouth? Oh yeah, I forgot. That ended up being the biggest problem everyone had when they found out.
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Jul 31, 2014 15:58
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Oh yeah, I forgot. That ended up being the biggest problem everyone had when they found out. Yeah. You get your dick sucked by another guy, it's a problem, but not a Problem, since y'know, who doesn't like getting their dick sucked? When you're the one sucking the dick however, you can't really just play that off as "Hey man, a mouth's a mouth." - it's a weakness thing, the same as their aversion to going down on a woman. It's one thing to be on the recieving end of the pleasure, but when you're the one doing something like going down on someone or being on the receiving end of anal or something, it's a weakness thing by putting someone else getting off above your own getting off, and that's the problem.
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Jul 31, 2014 16:49
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AA is for Quitters posted:Yeah. You get your dick sucked by another guy, it's a problem, but not a Problem, since y'know, who doesn't like getting their dick sucked? Unless you're in prison. I believe Tony at one point responds to Melfi's asking about it with something like "You get a pass for that"
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Jul 31, 2014 17:01
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That's actually the way the ancient romans looked at it. Penetrating another man was fine, but being penetrated by another man, or giving someone (male or female) oral sex, was weak and effeminate and absolutely not acceptable.
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Jul 31, 2014 17:13
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Yeah but the Romans had different words for grades of oral so...
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Jul 31, 2014 17:45
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rejutka posted:Yeah but the Romans had different words for grades of oral so... "I give this one a B+!" -A Roman
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Jul 31, 2014 18:06
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rejutka posted:Yeah but the Romans had different words for grades of oral so... Well obviously it was ok for a slave or a woman to do it.
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rejutka posted:Yeah but the Romans had different words for grades of oral so... drat it now I have to look this up.
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Eifert Posting posted:drat it now I have to look this up. Look up irrumatio.
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Aug 1, 2014 01:35
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Look up skull loving, face loving, or throat loving in Wiktionary, the free dictionary
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Aug 1, 2014 02:29
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rejutka posted:Look up irrumatio. If you're a rapist you have to be pretty stupid to force someone to give you a blowjob. Here, put your biting and chewing apparatus around my penis. There was a scene like this in "The Iron Cross", it didn't go so well for the rapist.
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Aug 1, 2014 02:34
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They really did a great job with Carmilla's character constantly straying between "enjoying the fruits of Tony's empire" to "I'm so torn by all this violence" without her becoming a 'bad' person. Like the whole spec-house/land Tony buys for her to save their marriage, then they run into all the problems with the inspectors, and finally Tony tells her to sell the land/house, make a good return on her money, and she tells him its not enough. He just gets quiet and looks at her with "how far do you want to take this?". For a second or 2 it looks like she actually considers it before just storming off and cursing the inspectors. Selklubber posted:If you're a rapist you have to be pretty stupid to force someone to give you a blowjob. Here, put your biting and chewing apparatus around my penis. Put a gun to someone's head and that changes the story. That was when The Shield crossed from edgy FX drama to "Holy gently caress what are they doing"
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Carmela's a bad person. She's greedy, vain, arrogant, and condescending, but that's not what makes her a bad person. It's that she, like Tony, had numerous opportunities to get out, but never did. Even leaving aside their 10+ years of marriage before the series, she had several occasions where she could have left him, particularly when she saw how his empire affected people. She doesn't have to be directly involved in the violence to have blood on her hands.
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pentyne posted:They really did a great job with Carmilla's character constantly straying between "enjoying the fruits of Tony's empire" to "I'm so torn by all this violence" without her becoming a 'bad' person. The best is where she briefly looks at the business card for the PI she was going to hire to find Adriana then tosses it aside and calls a plumber or something for her spec house.
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Aug 1, 2014 05:25
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As amazing as James Gandolfini was, there is no doubt in my mind that Edie Falco was the best part of the whole show. It's much harder to fully realize and explore a character like Carmela when compared to someone like Tony, but the writers and Falco pulled it off perfectly.
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TheBalor posted:Carmela's a bad person. She's greedy, vain, arrogant, and condescending, but that's not what makes her a bad person. It's that she, like Tony, had numerous opportunities to get out, but never did. Even leaving aside their 10+ years of marriage before the series, she had several occasions where she could have left him, particularly when she saw how his empire affected people. She doesn't have to be directly involved in the violence to have blood on her hands. Yeah, there were plenty of times to leave him/get witness protection but it came down to her faith and how she didn't believe in divorce. If Tony refused to get out, she saw it as her duty to stick by him. Even their separation was only because his GF called the house and involved the kids; all the others she was aware of she just ignored. The fingernail she found meant she felt justified in taking $40k and they'd be square, which was why she left it for Tony to find. Plus, even after he bought the land, she still knew he'd cheat on her but just wanted him to keep it private and was happy to go back to "wedded bliss". Carmela was someone who has firmly established herself into a criminal empire as a mob wife and struggled with the cost, but openly enjoyed the benefits and was willing to take advantage of it when she could while still stepping back when her involvement would get someone hurt. They really pulled off the interactions between Carmela and the priest when she was seriously conflicted and when he was condemning her for wanting to leave Tony.
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The therapist that just lays everything brutally bare for Carmela is the best. And she just completely ignores it.
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MrBling posted:The therapist that just lays everything brutally bare for Carmela is the best. The level of denial is amazing in that scene. He clearly tells her "You need to leave him as soon as possible. Take nothing but your children and get out of there" and her reply is "So you think I need to establish my boundaries..."
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Aug 1, 2014 13:09
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I just watched season 5 ep 11. I think. What did I just watch?
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Aug 1, 2014 14:07
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The Test Dream One of my favorite episodes of the series.
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Aug 1, 2014 14:12
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Eifert Posting posted:I just watched season 5 ep 11. One of the awesomest bits of TV that you will ever see.
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All the dream stuff on Sopranos is awesome and very accurately captures the surreal-ness of dreams. So Test Dream is the height of the awesome dream stuff.
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