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I'm looking for a good dub that basically is, or based on, a Journey to the West. My only stipulation is that it can't be DBZ.
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Psycho-Pass isn't exactly deep but it's engaging and satisfying if you're looking for pulpy nonsense. This puts it way ahead of most shows. But yea, the people making Masaaki Yuasa recommendations are the most right, as Ping Pong and The Tatami Galaxy are right up there with the best. However, it's really apples and oranges to compare a densely packed, artistically daring show with a long running space opera and a genre work.
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Wark Say posted:From the New World was better than Madoka. Off the top of my head (along with what was mentioned above already), so are My Bride is a Mermaid, Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu, Nichibros, Nichijou, Utena, The Tatami Galaxy, Nodame Cantabile, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, G Gundam, Gurren Lagann, Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex, Penguin Drum and probably a lot more. You mention G Gundam but not Giant Robo and Shin Mazinger too? For shame.
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Chas McGill posted:Don't really get the love for Psycho Pass here. I thought it was pretty good but I don't think it had a deeper exploration of themes than GITS and its main conceit reminded me of a rejected manga idea in Bakuman. Maybe it was just me, but I thought Psycho Pass felt really impressed with itself for how clever it thought it was. Then again I had the same problem with Madoka, so I guess I'm just not the target audience or something.
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Psycho-Pass actually is pretty clever, but the reasons aren't even close to the reasons it thinks it's clever. I love that in a show, though. edit: That is to say, as a black comedy about the nature of power and authority, specifically structured as a series of jokes (each complete with setup and punchline) it's hilarious. As a serious show about morality/criminality/the human mind it's total fluff, but the secret to enjoying Psycho-Pass is to realize that that isn't the real show in the first place. There's a scene in Psycho-Pass where a prominent politician hunts down and murders a teenage serial killer so he can smoke a pipe made from her bones. He says this "makes him feel young again." The point is politicians and serial killers are made from the same stuff, he's just learned to settle down and take life more slowly than she did. That, to me, is what the show is actually about, even though that scene (and others like it) pass almost uncommented-upon while the dumb sci-fi plot is busy ostentatiously namedropping Western authors and going "LOOK HOW SMART I AM." Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 27, 2014 |
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Chas McGill posted:Don't really get the love for Psycho Pass here. I thought it was pretty good but I don't think it had a deeper exploration of themes than GITS and its main conceit reminded me of a rejected manga idea in Bakuman. I always describe is as the themes of GitS with the premise of Minority Report, mashed together as an engaging detective thriller. I really like the show, but I still wouldn't put it above either Fate/Zero or Madoka. Tuxedo Catfish posted:Psycho-Pass actually is pretty clever, but the reasons aren't even close to the reasons it thinks it's clever. I love that in a show, though. I've heard it described this way before and I still do not understand it at all. I need to watch this show again, and I really don't have an excuse with the "remastered" version running now.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:That, to me, is what the show is actually about, even though that scene (and others like it) pass almost uncommented-upon while the dumb sci-fi plot is busy ostentatiously namedropping Western authors and going "LOOK HOW SMART I AM." See, that kind of thing is still in there with the "the show thinks this is super-clever but it isn't that clever" for me. I don't know, just about everything that happened from the word 'go' felt like the show was smugly patting itself on the back for every little thing. It had a few cute moments, and there was some stuff I liked, there was just a lot more I didn't. I'm kind of looking forward to a second season that explores different things, with different writers at the helm.
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Turtlicious posted:I'm looking for a good dub that basically is, or based on, a Journey to the West. My only stipulation is that it can't be DBZ. Well, it's not an anime, but I have heard good things about Monkey Magic. Or at least its intro.
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The dub for Monkey is not be any stretch of the word 'good' but is it laugh out loud atrociously bad and the script knows it.
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That's a good analysis, but I'm pretty sure that dude isn't a politician. I could be wrong though. I'm phone posting and it would be a pain to try and find the exact info.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:That, to me, is what the show is actually about, even though that scene (and others like it) pass almost uncommented-upon while the dumb sci-fi plot is busy ostentatiously namedropping Western authors and going "LOOK HOW SMART I AM." Which was really surprising, considering Kenji Kamiyama wasn't even involved  . Incidentally, if you ever want to see what would happen if he was given complete free reign to direct something and watch a man plunge deeper into the darkest depths of his own pseudo-intellectual rear end with every passing moment of screentime, go watch 009 RE:CYBORG*.*Do not go watch 009 RE:CYBORG. Trust me on this.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Which was really surprising, considering Kenji Kamiyama wasn't even involved It sounds like he wanted to do what Mamoru Oshii was planning with Cyborg 009. Sadly, if you're not Oshii and you try to make an Oshii-esque movie, the chances of it backfiring on you are really high! There are some cool sequences in it but as a whole it's iffy at best. Definitely something that's can't be recommended since it doesn't even qualify as an interesting failure. Srice fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jul 27, 2014 |
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The Black Stones posted:That's a good analysis, but I'm pretty sure that dude isn't a politician. I could be wrong though. I'm phone posting and it would be a pain to try and find the exact info. You might be right. The only reference I can find on the wiki is to him being the CEO of a construction company and a public advocate for cyborghood. Kinda diminishes the impact if he's just wealthy and not also a legitimate authority, though; I could've sworn in the interview scene he's introduced as running for public office.
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I finally got a Crunchyroll membership, so what are some good animes available on crunchyroll? Also I know I asked for recommendations like two weeks ago or so, so to follow up on that I'll mention that I watched Zetsuen no Tempest and thought it was good, if not exceptional, and I've watched the first episode of Giant Robo which is exceptionally pretty in HD.
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Here's a good start: Humanity Has Declined, House of Five Leaves, The Rose of Versailles, Kyousougiga, Chihayafuru, Tsuritama.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Here's a good start: Humanity Has Declined, House of Five Leaves, The Rose of Versailles, Kyousougiga, Chihayafuru, Tsuritama. Seconding Humanity Has Declined. Also From the New World, Madoka Magica, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Attack on Titan, Fate/Zero, Girls und Panzer, Hunter X Hunter (warning: long), Little Witch Academia, and Watamote. That should keep you busy for a while.
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Kyousougiga is so drat good.
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Silver2195 posted:Seconding Humanity Has Declined. Also From the New World, Madoka Magica, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Attack on Titan, Fate/Zero, Girls und Panzer, Hunter X Hunter (warning: long), Little Witch Academia, and Watamote. That should keep you busy for a while. Hunter X Hunter is long but if you've ever been curious about those zillion episode boys action manga adaptions like Naruto or One Piece it's the one to watch. Fantastic adaptation that's faithful to the original while improving it in some great ways. Silly, violent, but satisfying with deeply likable characters. Goes to some wildly creative places. A lot of the same goes for JoJo, although Jojo has really tight part two that starts in episode 10. Little Witch Academia is a half hour long standalone thing that I forgot you can watch on Crunchyroll. Go watch that now!
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quote:Kyousougiga Can someone explain how to go about watching this? I got curious and went to the wikipedia page, and saw that there are:
Should I watch them in that order, or is there anything extra I should know?
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Just watch the 13 episode series, it combines all that other stuff into itself. edit: Forgot the thread hadn't hit archives yet, I'll just pull this from the OP. straight jerkers posted:
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The material in Episode 0 is basically covered by the series eventually, there's no real reason to watch it unless you want to see a slightly different take on things. Just 1-10 of the TV Anime is more than good enough on its own.
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WYA posted:Does anime get better than LOTGH and Madoka? I would say that Tatami Galaxy, taken as a whole (looking at the art, music, etc), is better then LotGH. It's just an incredibly solid work and easily the best anime I've ever seen. Other series, while really good, generally have at least some tropes or pacing issues, even if they're minor. The Devil Tesla posted:Hunter X Hunter is long but if you've ever been curious about those zillion episode boys action manga adaptions like Naruto or One Piece it's the one to watch. Fantastic adaptation that's faithful to the original while improving it in some great ways. Silly, violent, but satisfying with deeply likable characters. Goes to some wildly creative places. And yeah, I'd say that Hunter X Hunter is the best shounen series I've ever seen/read. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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I've always been kind of interested in checking out Armored Trooper Votoms, but there's a not insignificant amount of content out there. Which are worth watching?
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The TV series. To expand on that, some of the OVAs are worth watching, yes, but they're all standalone, and most of them do some very silly things that would be hard to explain without spoiling the show to you, so you kinda just have to take my word as a big VOTOMS fan on it? Some of them are worth watching on their own merits, like animation, battles, and such. But if you start with the TV series, that's enough content for you to check out, find out what you like about the show, and can go from there. The main OVAs that I will straight out recommend are Big Battle (basically an extra episode, but best watched after finishing the show) and The Last Red Shoulder (see previous). Armor Hunter Merrowlink is completely standalone and features none of the show's cast, but is formulaic and repetitive, but fun. I haven't seen Case:Irvine, but I think it's a whole new setting. muike fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Watch the TV series first, and then go in production order for the OVAs. For more words about the OVAs, I feel like most of them are worth watching. The 1 episode OVAs for sure since they're not bad and at most you're only out like 30-40 minutes if you don't like them (though I have a hard time picturing someone making it through the tv show and not getting any enjoyment out of those). Mellow/Merrow/Merlow??link is a fun revenge story. I can't think of anything else like it, where the main character regularly defeats mechs while on foot. Neat stuff. Shining Heresy is a weird one and some people love it and some hate it. It's a sequel to the tv series though so if you like the show you should check it out (and if you watch through that make sure to watch Alone Again because it's a nice epilogue to that). Pailsen Files is decent. Has some nice action and it's fun to see more Chirico. At the first least the first episode alone is worth watching since they have something akin to the Normandy landing, but with mechs. It's a prequel that doesn't poo poo the bed so hey, that's good. Case;Irvine and Votoms Finder are not worth your time. Irvine feels more like a Code Geass OVA but it's not quite Geass-esque enough, and Votoms Finder feels like an unaired pilot for something they attached the Votoms name to. They're both standalone but I can't recommend them at all. Phantom Arc is horseshit that starts off okay but then it makes some amazingly dumb choices and by the end of it all you wonder what the loving point was.
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If you could recommend me some "WOAH THATS EDGY!"* anime that has an English dub I'd appreciate it. *I dunno what the genre actually is, I guess dark action? Titles I liked: Btooom, Future Diary, Hellsing, Darker than Black, Death Note Neutral Towards: Highschool of the Dead Didn't like: Gantz Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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KildarX posted:If you could recommend me some "WOAH THATS EDGY!"* anime that has an English dub I'd appreciate it. Try Psycho-Pass. Edit: Seconding Fate/Zero too. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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KildarX posted:*I dunno what the genre actually is, I guess dark action? Black Lagoon, Fate/Zero, and Psycho-Pass definitely. Higurashi maybe, though that is more mystery/thriller.
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I'm interested in watching some anime (or reading some manga) featuring LGBT characters which are treated somewhat realistically. By this I mean no "Oh those silly gays" situations, but no "everyone's gay and life is absolutely trouble-free for them" either. I'm not picky, the show doesn't have to be about the characters being LGBT. I've already watched/read Aoi Hana and Hourou Musuko, and also I've read Kinou Nani Tabeta (which features gay main characters). Anything else you recommend?
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Mikl posted:I'm interested in watching some anime (or reading some manga) featuring LGBT characters which are treated somewhat realistically. By this I mean no "Oh those silly gays" situations, but no "everyone's gay and life is absolutely trouble-free for them" either. I haven't read much of it myself, but I've heard good things about Collectors.
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Mikl posted:I'm interested in watching some anime (or reading some manga) featuring LGBT characters which are treated somewhat realistically. By this I mean no "Oh those silly gays" situations, but no "everyone's gay and life is absolutely trouble-free for them" either. Bodacious Space Pirates, surprisingly. Also From the New World, sort of (it provoked some hilarious fanboy outrage for daring to depict male and female homosexuality in the same show).
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KildarX posted:If you could recommend me some "WOAH THATS EDGY!"* anime that has an English dub I'd appreciate it. Elfen lied. Brynhildr also, though it doesn't have a dub yet. (Both are by the same studio and mangaka. The elfen lied manga gets pretty bad compared to the anime, while the manga version of brynhildr is better than the anime.)
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Silver2195 posted:Bodacious Space Pirates, surprisingly. Also From the New World, sort of (it provoked some hilarious fanboy outrage for daring to depict male and female homosexuality in the same show). I'd probably avoid From the New World if that's what you're after because it doubles down on the 'homosexuality is just adolescent crushes that you grow out of' thing. There's not much anime wise (though you could try Sasameki Koto I guess, it's pretty good but hardly realistic), but in manga there's Honey x Honey, Indigo Blue (and pretty much anything by the same author), Octave and Claudine, be warned though the last is incredibly depressing as per Riyoko Ikeda's usual fashion. Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Sakurazuka posted:I'd probably avoid From the New World if that's what you're after because it doubles down on the 'homosexuality is just adolescent crushes that you grow out of' thing. I should definitely have clarified what I meant by "sort of" there (although it's more complicated than that). Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Aug 1, 2014 |
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Thanks for the recommendations, guys  I've already read Collectors, but I'll check out the other series.
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Mikl posted:I'm interested in watching some anime (or reading some manga) featuring LGBT characters which are treated somewhat realistically. By this I mean no "Oh those silly gays" situations, but no "everyone's gay and life is absolutely trouble-free for them" either. A bit late, but Madoka is pretty good and about a lesbian romance, though it takes awhile for it to really come up. It is, however, especially prominent in the movie. KildarX posted:If you could recommend me some "WOAH THATS EDGY!"* anime that has an English dub I'd appreciate it. Berserk, Claymore, Attack on Titan, and WickedHate fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Aug 2, 2014 |
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Gonna also recommend Claymore.
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