MechWarrior Online: Sisyphus could learn a thing or two

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Vorenus: Jul 14, 2013

Shala posted:

Yes 19 please endanger your job for the amusement of faceless internet people.

Number19 posted:

I miss the squawking too. I believe I'm still the only person who you asked to squawk who refused.

As for progress on features or any of that, I don't know and couldn't comment even if I did. I'm a member of the administrative team, not the dev team.

Sorry, I couldn't remember how much info was known about your position/if PGI knows who you are and all that.

I still want to see this firebomb screenshot.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:16

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 17:49

Number19: May 14, 2003; HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH

Drewjitsu posted:

That's because you're a big ~~fat~~ less fat (good work on the lifting, btw) jerk!

It was a good way to rustle up some goon jimmies and it worked :unsmigghh:

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:16

Number19: May 14, 2003; HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH

Vorenus posted:

Sorry, I couldn't remember how much info was known about your position/if PGI knows who you are and all that.

I still want to see this firebomb screenshot.

They know I post here. I've never been secretive about it in the slightest.

There's not much to see about the firebomb thing. Someone went all FYAD on the MWO forums and it ended more or less how you'd expect.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:18

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Number19 posted:

As for progress on features or any of that, I don't know and couldn't comment even if I did. I'm a member of the administrative team, not the dev team.

Oh ok, so you work for PGI but can't tell us anything about the game.

So... uh, file any good paperwork lately?

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:43

Number19: May 14, 2003; HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH

No but I've made lots of improvements and upgrades to the development infrastructure (that I still can't talk about.)

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:46

Woolie Wool: Jun 2, 2006

Chomp8645 posted:

Oh ok, so you work for PGI but can't tell us anything about the game.

I'm pretty sure almost no game developers allow non-executive employees to talk about what they're doing with outsiders.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:50

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Number19 posted:

No but I've made lots of improvements and upgrades to the development infrastructure (that I still can't talk about.)

Oh... ok. That is a cool thing that I'll take your word about.

So how bout them lawsuits? Any come in lately?

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:51

koolkal: Oct 21, 2008; this thread maybe doesnt have room for 2 green xbox one avs

I hope by improve, you mean excise!

# ? Aug 1, 2014 04:52

Anita Dickinme: Jan 24, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Locust is still the best mech.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 05:07

Woolie Wool: Jun 2, 2006

Thinking about what I expected the game to be back before it launched just makes me sad. I mean, the obvious, non-stupid way to do the Clan mechs would be to have Clan invasion matches where players team up against an onslaught of NPC Clan mechs for control of the map. Killing a Clan mech gets you a chance to salvage the chassis, and then you can grind up a bunch of C-bills to refurbish it or drop a few dollars in cash if you're impatient.

Also there would actually be NPCs. And alternate game modes. And some sort of persistent galaxy that gives a reason for the game to be an MMO at all. The actual MechWarrior Online feels like an unfinished prototype of a MechWarrior 5 with a campaign and server-based multiplayer, only the devs ran out of money in early alpha and decided to release the alpha as a lovely F2P MMO to "monetize" whales instead of releasing an actual complete game that normal people would want to buy.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 05:14

Number19: May 14, 2003; HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH

Woolie Wool posted:

I'm pretty sure almost no game developers allow non-executive employees to talk about what they're doing with outsiders.

Yes NDAs really exist and I'm very good about adhering to mine

# ? Aug 1, 2014 05:31

TeeMerk: Jun 9, 2013

Number19 posted:

Yes NDAs really exist and I'm very good about adhering to mine

And is a very good thing for you and your career/family even if you work for the literal devil.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 05:51

Vorenus: Jul 14, 2013

Woolie Wool posted:

The actual MechWarrior Online feels like an unfinished prototype of a MechWarrior 5 with a campaign and server-based multiplayer, only the devs ran out of money in early alpha and decided to release the alpha as a lovely F2P MMO to "monetize" whales instead of releasing an actual complete game that normal people would want to buy.

This exactly.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 05:55

TeeMerk: Jun 9, 2013

Shot some robots with some goons tonite and it was pretty fun.

The grouping mechanic as well as the UI could use some polish but we got a party up to 8 and were laying waste to some clanners(most hadn't played in awhile and I think noone had bought that godawful cashgrab).

Interesting concept goons in IS mechs fighting against the clans though, kinda felt like fighting off the invasion.

You could definitely tell that there was a lot left to want as far as balance etc, but the feel is not something found in other games.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 07:18

Fil5000: Jun 23, 2003; HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/166407-clan-vs-is-happening-again/

Haha, they turned on Clan vs IS matching for a couple of hours on the live servers without telling anyone. After 8 pages that alternate between people going "Maybe it would be good if they warned us in advance about tests that make the game unfair" and "Get better :smug:

"the community manager shows up:

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/166407-clan-vs-is-happening-again/page__view__findpost__p__3597935

And basically goes "Yup, we sure did that thing, thanks!"

PGI are now actively trolling people that didn't pay for clan mechs.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 10:05

Legit Businessman: Sep 2, 2007

Fil5000 posted:

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/166407-clan-vs-is-happening-again/

Haha, they turned on Clan vs IS matching for a couple of hours on the live servers without telling anyone. After 8 pages that alternate between people going "Maybe it would be good if they warned us in advance about tests that make the game unfair" and "Get better "the community manager shows up:

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/166407-clan-vs-is-happening-again/page__view__findpost__p__3597935

And basically goes "Yup, we sure did that thing, thanks!"

PGI are now actively trolling people that didn't pay for clan mechs.

Niko being a shitler? Well I never!

It's not like he burned out two of his coworkers over at igp who had to deal with his poo poo on a regular basis or anything.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 10:59

Phrosphor: Feb 25, 2007; Urbanisation

I like how the reasoning is "It's totally testing for FACTION WARFARE guys! Honestly! Right around the corner! You can get you House Introduction Pack with a unique color scheme for your chosen house and a 5% increase in reputation for only $50!"

# ? Aug 1, 2014 11:02

Skoll: Jul 26, 2013; Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love; Grimey Drawer

Phrosphor posted:

I like how the reasoning is "It's totally testing for FACTION WARFARE guys! Honestly! Right around the corner! You can get you House Introduction Pack with a unique color scheme for your chosen house and a 5% increase in reputation for only $50!"

New Gold Plated House Mechs for $500! Get the

Capellan Confederation Vindicator

Draconis Combine Panther

Federated Suns Emperor

Free Rasalhague Republic Beowulf

Free Worlds League Hermes II

Lyran Commonwealth Zeus

All yours for the low low price of $500 per gold plated mech and the priceless feeling of supporting your favorite mech game!

# ? Aug 1, 2014 11:25

DKWildz: Jan 7, 2002

This thread really bummed me out. I remember when this game was supposed to be a new Mechwarrior in the 'oldtech' era, and then having the right turn into a World of Tanks deal (not necessarily a bad thing, as I had a lot of fun with Battletech 3025 before EA stuck the knife into that one). I still bought a founders pack and tried it out with the early alpha(?)/beta, but with every change it became less and less what I was looking for, and more the same diluted down money grab, and haven't logged in since. After going through this thread I see no reason to ever reinstall it.

I love Battletech, but goddamn I don't think there will ever be another good game made for it.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 11:28

Fat Samurai: Feb 16, 2011; To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

I saw this thread and for a moment hoped that PGI had managed to turn this around. I miss the Wizard.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 11:33

Phrosphor: Feb 25, 2007; Urbanisation

Fat Samurai posted:

I saw this thread and for a moment hoped that PGI had managed to turn this around. I miss the Wizard.

RIP The Wizard. Lost to us forever in River City.

Also this looks pretty good already. More feature complete than MWO with bots and faction warfare planned soon.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/266470/

# ? Aug 1, 2014 11:40

Slab Squatthrust: Jun 3, 2008; This is mutiny!

Yeah, I mean, the game has gotten better than it was at the worst point, but PGI is still PGI. I can kick back with 1-9 of my friends and play rounds again which is the biggest thing, honestly. Not being locked into 4-man squads is what made me even look twice at the game again, because no matter how poo poo PGI is at sensible balancing, they got the stompy feel dead on.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 12:38

johntherussian: Nov 12, 2012; Fallen Rib

I have not seen any legitimate goons playing this game.

Edit: Also OP should kill himself for that horrible mess of a first post.

johntherussian fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Aug 1, 2014

# ? Aug 1, 2014 12:49

Fat Samurai: Feb 16, 2011; To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

Phrosphor posted:

RIP The Wizard. Lost to us forever in River City.

Also this looks pretty good already. More feature complete than MWO with bots and faction warfare planned soon.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/266470/

This looks interesting. Do we have any threads for the game so I stop derailing this one?

# ? Aug 1, 2014 13:46

Phrosphor: Feb 25, 2007; Urbanisation

Fat Samurai posted:

This looks interesting. Do we have any threads for the game so I stop derailing this one?

I don't know of any threads, I just stumbled across it today.

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Steam Page posted:

Currently Implemented Features:

Intense mech based combat. Unleash your firepower and tactics on your opponents. focus your attacks to localize damage to destroy weapons, equipment or even cripple and more readily destroy enemy mechs.

Customize multiple mechs to suit different styles of play or mission types. Choose from 4 different mech classes, 35 different weapons and pieces of equipment, custom paint styles and colors and more. You can employ any of these saved configurations in-game as you play.

Play any mission offline versus bots, in instant action mode.

Or get into the action online against up to 16 other players (per mission)! NOTE: 32 players being worked on.

Earn stats for leaderboards and achievement unlocks in a persistent game environment.

Massive mission environments, with 2-3 zones at launch of early access.

3 games modes including Attrition, Free for All, and Mini-nuke.

Sounds like they might be changing the format for the second game then.

Phrosphor fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Aug 1, 2014

# ? Aug 1, 2014 13:58

Jimlit: Jun 30, 2005

Fat Samurai posted:

This looks interesting. Do we have any threads for the game so I stop derailing this one?

I remember playing the first Dark Horizons game 6 or 7 years ago. It could hardly be called a mech sim (next to no customization outside of weapons), but the multiplayer was fun and the devs seemed to be pretty competent when it came to balancing their game.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 14:17

Slab Squatthrust: Jun 3, 2008; This is mutiny!

Yeah, was gonna say that that looks more like MechAssault than Mechwarrior. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, MA was a bunch of fun, but it doesn't quite scratch the same itch. That Chromehounds successor game someone linked looks like it might though.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 16:30

WebDO: Sep 25, 2009

Woolie Wool posted:

The saddest part about the abortion this game has become is how much potential PGI has squandered in their never ending quest to take money from the mentally challenged without ever even pretending to want to try to become competent or deliver content.

Also, I hate you all for this thread because I almost made the mistake of thinking the game was no longer actively being made worse which is in fact still not the case.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 17:21

Chronojam: Feb 20, 2006; This is me on vacation in Amsterdam
Never be afraid of being yourself!

Fil5000 posted:

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/166407-clan-vs-is-happening-again/

Haha, they turned on Clan vs IS matching for a couple of hours on the live servers without telling anyone. After 8 pages that alternate between people going "Maybe it would be good if they warned us in advance about tests that make the game unfair" and "Get better "the community manager shows up:

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/166407-clan-vs-is-happening-again/page__view__findpost__p__3597935

And basically goes "Yup, we sure did that thing, thanks!"

PGI are now actively trolling people that didn't pay for clan mechs.

A reminder to all that PGI actually has a test server, but they simply never ever use it and when they do it's for like 2 hours during the workday instead of over the weekend.

Phrosphor posted:

I like how the reasoning is "It's totally testing for FACTION WARFARE guys! Honestly! Right around the corner! You can get you House Introduction Pack with a unique color scheme for your chosen house and a 5% increase in reputation for only $50!"

A reminder that one of the hooks for Project Phoenix was the mechs came with a 5% increase in ~loyalty points~ because CW was just around the corner. They actually told people out loud with a straight face that it was going to drop soon at that stupid launch party.

# ? Aug 1, 2014 17:35

Jimlit: Jun 30, 2005

The Gate posted:

Yeah, was gonna say that that looks more like MechAssault than Mechwarrior. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, MA was a bunch of fun, but it doesn't quite scratch the same itch. That Chromehounds successor game someone linked looks like it might though.

Curiosity got the best of me and I tried Dark Horizons out this afternoon. Here are some initial thoughts:

Pros:

Decent customization options. There are not as many options as MWO (IE: armor for individual parts) but it still has a bunch of options for weapons, utility equipment, power supplies ect... You can also do custom paint schemes without paying $13 a color.
The maps seem way bigger than MWO, with bases for each team that players can repair and re-arm mid game. Also repair points scattered throughout the maps that teams can capture.
There seems to be a much bigger emphasis on limb damage. Weapons have their own armor values outside of the mech's actual armor. This means if you throw a poo poo load of low armor medium lasers on your slow immobile heavy mech more than likely some small fast mech is going to leave you weaponless in the middle of nowhere.
The dev's seem really dedicated, and have a road map for development that they seem to be basing completely on user feedback.
Destructible trees! Big rear end mechs clipping through entire forests is the worst...

Cons:

At the moment movement is super janky and un-polished feeling. The animations don't quite sync up and the whole experience doesn't feel as fluid as it should.
Some of the sound effects are hilariously bad and have hosed up levels of volume. Literal PEW PEW PEW for lasers.
First person but no cockpit view.
There are almost no populated servers. They do have bots that can be used on multiplayer servers and single player instant action.
Noticeably early access. Lots of placeholders in menus and coming soon's.

This game has some cool ideas and neat solutions to issues that were pretty glaring in MWO. At the moment though I couldn't recommend it to anyone, as there is almost nobody playing this.

That being said the devs seem really active and are sticking to deadlines and listening to the community for feedback. Most of my cons list is addressed in the development road map, and if they stick to all their planned features and fixes this could shape up into a solid mech game.

# ? Aug 2, 2014 02:17

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

But I thought we would never a good mech game again for at least 20 years unless we threw our money at PGI. They were the only game in town so there was no choice.

I was lied to!!!

# ? Aug 2, 2014 02:22

BULBASAUR: Apr 6, 2009; Soiled Meat

Well well well, what have we here.

You clowns are still playing this game?

# ? Aug 2, 2014 02:47

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

Technically speaking I am "retained" according to PGI yes.

# ? Aug 2, 2014 02:50

TeeMerk: Jun 9, 2013

Participating in my first Private Match. They are hilariously fun and customizable, unfortunately making one means giving cash to PGI.

e: both sides have to have guys running premium time also building duellers is awesome.

TeeMerk fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Aug 2, 2014

# ? Aug 2, 2014 04:06

Tank Boy Ken: Aug 24, 2012; J4G for life; Fallen Rib

BULBASAUR posted:

Well well well, what have we here.

You clowns are still playing this game?

Thanks to some horrible jerk linking this thread, I'm thinking of patching and becoming one of the "retained ones". Or kill myself. To be determined.

# ? Aug 2, 2014 08:16

Chronojam: Feb 20, 2006; This is me on vacation in Amsterdam
Never be afraid of being yourself!

BULBASAUR posted:

Well well well, what have we here.

You clowns are still playing this game?

Why do you always get the best avatars

# ? Aug 2, 2014 08:35

Aesis: Oct 9, 2012; Filthy J4G

Game's somewhat ok, but it can end rather quickly because of 12 vs 12 and clan mechs. And you'll die lot faster thanks to clan mechs with high alpha damage.

# ? Aug 2, 2014 09:27