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Slim Killington posted:Guardians of the Galaxy was excellent but there's a scene in which two characters get stuck floating out in space and it's terrible. I can't even imagine how an entire team of people thought an audience would just suspend that much disbelief, and even then, it's so poorly done and awkward that we cringed for its entire duration. I can't believe it made it off the development table. I am Groot.
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Aug 1, 2014 19:46
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Slim Killington posted:Guardians of the Galaxy was excellent but there's a scene in which two characters get stuck floating out in space and it's terrible. I can't even imagine how an entire team of people thought an audience would just suspend that much disbelief, and even then, it's so poorly done and awkward that we cringed for its entire duration. I can't believe it made it off the development table. Aliens
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Aug 1, 2014 19:54
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Slim Killington posted:Guardians of the Galaxy was excellent but there's a scene in which two characters get stuck floating out in space and it's terrible. I can't even imagine how an entire team of people thought an audience would just suspend that much disbelief, and even then, it's so poorly done and awkward that we cringed for its entire duration. I can't believe it made it off the development table. Rocket specifically states that her cybernetic implants or something similar will keep her going for a little bit, not to mention she isn't human. Plus, Peter is only half human too, so that might account for his ability to survive.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:29
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Slim Killington posted:Guardians of the Galaxy was excellent but there's a scene in which two characters get stuck floating out in space and it's terrible. I can't even imagine how an entire team of people thought an audience would just suspend that much disbelief, and even then, it's so poorly done and awkward that we cringed for its entire duration. I can't believe it made it off the development table. My problem with that scene is that the blood vessels in his eyes burst like they would in that situation, but in the next scene they're back to normal.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:48
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No yeah I get how they hand-waved away why it's totally an okay thing for it to happen, but the execution was dreadful and it dragged on for way too long for how badly it was done. The were filmed underwater and in premise yeah, that's the way to go, but it just didn't work. Nothing about the sequence worked, from the eyes to the skin icing over, it was just very bad.
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Aug 1, 2014 20:53
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Slim Killington posted:No yeah I get how they hand-waved away why it's totally an okay thing for it to happen, but the execution was dreadful and it dragged on for way too long for how badly it was done. The were filmed underwater and in premise yeah, that's the way to go, but it just didn't work. Nothing about the sequence worked, from the eyes to the skin icing over, it was just very bad. I disagree, it just didn't bother me that a modified half robot alien chick and a half-alien dude, both using a magic space mask to survive at various times were able to survive until they got picked up, especially since it was really quick that they got picked up. The only thing about the movie that really got on my nerves was when they're at the very end and they all have the infinity stone, and the badguy is like HOW YOU ARE MORTALS!? and Quinn delivers a line like 'lol u no y bich, we're the gardens of the galaxy' and it's just really, really bad. And it irritated the poo poo out of me. But I hate those sort of lines in general. It also just didn't fit the somewhat self aware tone of the movie up to and beyond that point.
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Aug 3, 2014 07:46
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It was annoying that I waited until after the credits for some extra bit only to get trolled with a Howard the duck joke. Well played Marvel.
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Aug 3, 2014 10:49
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:It was annoying that I waited until after the credits for some extra bit only to get trolled with a Howard the duck joke. Well played Marvel. Still doesn't top Iron Man 3, where they added extra fake credits to make people wait longer, just to be dicks.
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Aug 3, 2014 11:03
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Wait really? that's a hilarious and needlessly expensive gag.
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Aug 3, 2014 13:29
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I liked the new Spiderman 2 movie where the obligatory credits thing was literally just a clip/trailer for the new X-Men movie. It was so loving lazy that I couldn't help but laugh. There isn't even anything after the credits, the trailer cuts in about 30 seconds into them.
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Aug 3, 2014 17:48
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CJacobs posted:I liked the new Spiderman 2 movie where the obligatory credits thing was literally just a clip/trailer for the new X-Men movie. It was so loving lazy that I couldn't help but laugh. There isn't even anything after the credits, the trailer cuts in about 30 seconds into them. That was because the director had to cut a deal to film Spider-Man 2 when he should have been working on Xmen, I think. He was allowed to disrupt the schedule provided that the trailer was in the credits.
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Aug 3, 2014 18:10
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Speaking of Spiderman 2, what a loving awful movie it was. I loved it.Inzombiac posted:That was because the director had to cut a deal to film Spider-Man 2 when he should have been working on Xmen, I think. He was allowed to disrupt the schedule provided that the trailer was in the credits. 
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Aug 3, 2014 18:10
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Inzombiac posted:That was because the director had to cut a deal to film Spider-Man 2 when he should have been working on Xmen, I think. He was allowed to disrupt the schedule provided that the trailer was in the credits. Pretty sure this is all part of Marvel's long term plan. The end skit of Captain America 2 is about 'The Twins' quicksilver and scarlet witch. They're tying everything together for some big mash up. But yeah, they could totally find better ways to do it as it's become such a 'thing' with them now that people are often waiting more to see those last 30 seconds than a lot of the movie they're actually watching.
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Aug 3, 2014 18:12
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dpack_1 posted:Pretty sure this is all part of Marvel's long term plan. The end skit of Captain America 2 is about 'The Twins' quicksilver and scarlet witch. They're tying everything together for some big mash up. But yeah, they could totally find better ways to do it as it's become such a 'thing' with them now that people are often waiting more to see those last 30 seconds than a lot of the movie they're actually watching. Except of course that Quicksilver was in First Class, in the 70s... I'm pretty sure the Spiderman, X-Men and Avengers universes are still solidly separate - Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are interesting because they fit intoboth Avengers and X-Men and I think their movie rights aren't exclusive like most of the others.
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Aug 3, 2014 18:41
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Coffee And Pie posted:How is it in comparison to the only two movies I can think of where that happens: 2001 and Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, assuming you mean without space suits. Anything would be more believable than when they did this with John Crichton in Farscape. Although the events leading up to that are so awesome that it gets kind of negated.
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Aug 3, 2014 22:36
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thespaceinvader posted:Except of course that Quicksilver was in First Class, in the 70s... The movie universes are separate by virtue of having different owners, yeah. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are usable in Marvel movies properties like Avengers, but only if they're not called mutants. Quicksilver in the X-Men universe is a mutant, Quicksilver in the Avengers universe is a science experiment like Cap.
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Aug 4, 2014 00:07
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Silly Newbie posted:The movie universes are separate by virtue of having different owners, yeah. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are usable in Marvel movies properties like Avengers, but only if they're not called mutants. Quicksilver in the X-Men universe is a mutant, Quicksilver in the Avengers universe is a science experiment like Cap. This is a good system that works.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:31
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If the X-men were in the same film universe as the Avengers it'd be weird. People hate mutants in the X-men films but they're p cool with super powered people in the Marvel hero films.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:43
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The comics have been running with that for like 50 years, I'm sure they'd make it work.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:46
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made of bees posted:The comics have been running with that for like 50 years, I'm sure they'd make it work. Comics aren't really comparable considering all the retconning and horrible continuity that exists in them. Comics are not a cohesive narrative universe at all. Very bad analogy, 2/10.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:51
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So far, the Avengers are technology aided, a prince of another world, and a scientifically modified American soldier, except for the Hulk who is feared and hated. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver will probably throw a wrench in that, though.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:54
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N. Senada posted:This is a good system that works. Its a poo poo system that makes money for rear end bitches while ensuring we will never have an X-Men vs Avengers while Spider-Man makes fun of them all aka, a true Marvel U on cinema.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:22
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Supreme Allah posted:Its a poo poo system that makes money for rear end bitches while ensuring we will never have an X-Men vs Avengers while Spider-Man makes fun of them all aka, a true Marvel U on cinema. pfft, look at this huge nerd who needs to see all his comics heroes simultaneously like a main cast of 6 on the one hand and of [Wolverine+bad scripts] on the other aren't enough.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:37
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WickedHate posted:So far, the Avengers are technology aided, a prince of another world, and a scientifically modified American soldier, except for the Hulk who is feared and hated. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver will probably throw a wrench in that, though. Yeah, all they need to do is make it clear that Avengers are public heroes with known identities and mutants are vigilantes who try to keep their identities secret.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:47
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Away all Goats posted:Yeah, all they need to do is make it clear that Avengers are public heroes with known identities and mutants are vigilantes who try to keep their identities secret. The vigilante part doesn't really play into it with the X-Men. It's just the mutant part, usually, and they don't keep their identity secret most of the time either. Right now Scott Summers is like Malcolm X and people spray paint his name on buildings.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:50
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made of bees posted:The comics have been running with that for like 50 years, I'm sure they'd make it work. It barely makes sense in the comics 90% of the time.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:52
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Regarding Quicksilver: I find it really interesting that both versions of Quicksilver work on another "superhero" movie together, Kick rear end. Evan Peters plays Todd in Kick-rear end 1, and is the X-Men's Quicksilver. Aaron Taylor-Johnson plays the Titular Kick-rear end and is Quicksilver in the Avengers universe.
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Aug 4, 2014 06:14
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X-men needs to stay off on its own due to its massive cast and effectively incompatible worldbuilding, but I am disappointed that Spidey can't be in the Avengers. Cause then he'd get a decent movie.
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Aug 4, 2014 06:17
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Byzantine posted:X-men needs to stay off on its own due to its massive cast and effectively incompatible worldbuilding, but I am disappointed that Spidey can't be in the Avengers.
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Aug 4, 2014 13:32
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EmmyOk posted:If the X-men were in the same film universe as the Avengers it'd be weird. People hate mutants in the X-men films but they're p cool with super powered people in the Marvel hero films. In The Ultimates the Wasp is a mutant pretending to be a science enhanced human because if it got out that she was a mutant her public profile would be ruined. It's not weird, they hate mutants because mutants are different. People like sex but hate gays, this is the same.
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Aug 4, 2014 13:37
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Byzantine posted:X-men needs to stay off on its own due to its massive cast and effectively incompatible worldbuilding, but I am disappointed that Spidey can't be in the Avengers. Yeah, X-Men makes a lot more sense if they're in a world where nobody else actually has powers. No other heroes need to qualify where they got their powers before the public accepts them or not.
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Aug 4, 2014 13:40
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Pilchenstein posted:Yeah, someone really needs to make a Spiderman film that isn't two hours of him loving moping. The Amazing Spider-Man is not very mopey but it's also significantly worse than the first two Raimi films.
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Aug 4, 2014 13:41
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I think the problem with Amazing Spider-Man 2 was villain overdose. Although Rhino barely counts because his entire involvement in the film could be seen in the trailer, man that was terrible.
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Aug 4, 2014 13:44
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Jedit posted:In The Ultimates the Wasp is a mutant pretending to be a science enhanced human because if it got out that she was a mutant her public profile would be ruined. It's not weird, they hate mutants because mutants are different. People like sex but hate gays, this is the same. Why are these guys with powers acceptable but this other group isn't? It's not like a sex analogy because mutants are literally exactly like the other people with powers. The gay analogy doesn't work because there is literally zero difference between them except for the label of mutant. Wait. Waaaaait. I get it now. Mutants represent women! When a non-mutant (male) uses superpowers (sex) to fight crime (enjoy himself) it's heroic (being a REAL MAN). But when a mutant (female) does it she's like, a terrorist (slut).
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Aug 4, 2014 13:50
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I can't ever become a mutant but maybe I can be Spider-Man.
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Aug 4, 2014 14:07
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How is Captain America also the Human Torch?! Makes you thi
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Aug 4, 2014 14:28
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Slime posted:Why are these guys with powers acceptable but this other group isn't? It's not like a sex analogy because mutants are literally exactly like the other people with powers. The gay analogy doesn't work because there is literally zero difference between them except for the label of mutant. Wait. Waaaaait. It's because Magneto referred to mutants as homo superior and the word homo really set everyone off.
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Aug 4, 2014 14:56
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Nastyman posted:It's because Magneto referred to mutants as homo superior and the word homo really set everyone off.
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Slime posted:Why are these guys with powers acceptable but this other group isn't? It's not like a sex analogy because mutants are literally exactly like the other people with powers. The gay analogy doesn't work because there is literally zero difference between them except for the label of mutant. So you missed the bit in one of the X-Men movies where Bobby Drake's mother literally says "Have you tried not being a mutant?" This is not subtext.
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