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Kabanaw posted:Holy wow, is there any way that you see that play coming This guy did. I figured out what happened without ever seeing the sequence of cards, and that's a super impressive play. I've always loved using negative effects for your own benefit.
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AlsoD posted:I missed that Golgari Charm play, what was it? Cunningham attacks with Advent token with Selesnya Charm in hand. Ichikawa blocks with his 4/4 Scooze. He has the option to pump it to 6/6, but instead just pumps to 5/5 and passes priority. Cunningham Charms, trying to exile the Ooze. Ichikawa responds with Golgari Charm to give everything -1/-1, Selesnya Charm fizzles, he then pumps the Ooze to 5/5 again, beating the Wurm token.
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drat it, I hope that Ichikawa doesn't lose. Really want Jund to win this PT along with every PT.
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qbert posted:Cunningham attacks with Advent token with Selesnya Charm in hand. Ichikawa blocks with his 4/4 Scooze. He has the option to pump it to 6/6, but instead just pumps to 5/5 and passes priority. Cunningham Charms, trying to exile the Ooze. Ichikawa responds with Golgari Charm to give everything -1/-1, Selesnya Charm fizzles, he then pumps the Ooze to 5/5 again, beating the Wurm token. And taking down a Voice Token along with it. Too bad Ichikawa is losing this game.
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Aug 3, 2014 20:10
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poo poo. The worse player won.
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mcmagic posted:poo poo. The worse player won. Awesome, Selesnya won. Seriously, I am so happy that this deck finally has legs and is doing serious work.
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If Huey wins I can stop watching because then all four matches went the opposite of how I wanted.
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Not that anyone is watching SGC over the pro tour, but you all just missed a particularly massive punt. BUG delver has a Depths player essentially dead on board with 2 4/5 Goyfs, an active Deathrite Shaman and a Liliana. The Depths player has an untapped Depths and Thespian's Stage in play and is on 10 life. Rather than doing the sensible thing and swinging with the team and then murdering the Marit Lage token with Liliana post combat, for some reason he decides the best line of play is to drop a Delver in his hand and plus the Liliana. After doing this he stops, thinks for a second and then scoops.
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Aug 3, 2014 20:45
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How much did Huey wish he had the MonoB build with Gary's in that match.
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Rakdos' Return, being the opposite of Sphinx's Revelation, is rad and jut won Pierre the game. We now have 4 different decks in the Top 4.
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Green white is up against Jund Walkers again though. That's going to be hell to deal for the Jund player.
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Owen is going all the way.
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Meanwhile, in SCG, Joe Lossett playing U/W Miracles wins the game after going to 2 vs. Burn, with a Jace having ticked up to 13.
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Aug 3, 2014 21:36
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UW Control < BW Midrange < GW Aggro < Jund Walkers... in my heart.
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BDM comparing watching Floch's UW deck play out to the "bottomless chair scene in Casino Royale." 
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gently caress's sake, why wasn't Revelation banned again?
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BizarroAzrael posted:gently caress's sake, why wasn't Revelation banned again?
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BizarroAzrael posted:gently caress's sake, why wasn't Revelation banned again? Wouldn't it have been cool if at some point subsequently they'd printed a Flash creature with "whenever an opponent would draw a card, they draw seven cards instead"? "end step, Rev for 7" "Cast Sphinxaids in response, you deck yourself. Game three?" (edit: given when Skylasher was printed, I assume we'll see this card next spring.) (edit2: I see the templating problem here, but assume a fixed version for humor purposes.) Sarcastro fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Spiderdrake posted:They don't ban like, the second or third best deck's key card out of standard? Any hugely broken card will become a deck's key card.
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BizarroAzrael posted:gently caress's sake, why wasn't Revelation banned again? Because it's fine, mostly
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BizarroAzrael posted:gently caress's sake, why wasn't Revelation banned again? Because only the PT has untimed matches and during normal play uw has to win at some point
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Undoubtedly it's a case of the sum of the parts of the UW deck, but from what I've been seeing, Planar Cleansing is a major culprit as well. It's a fair card on paper but in the context of a deck that can stabilize/draw fistfuls of cards with Rev and recycle its graveyard ad nauseam, it's dumb for the deck to also have a faceroll sweeper to pretty much anything that can oppose it on the table.
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Aug 3, 2014 22:36
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No idea why Owen didn't wait a turn to bust the Elspeth Ultimate.
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jassi007 posted:Because only the PT has untimed matches and during normal play uw has to win at some point Is that the case for the prelims,too? If so, why? It feels weird to change the rules only at this level. It isn't as though timers get turned off in Street Fighter for EVO. That being said, bringing the durdleiest deck possible seems like a smart call given those circumstances.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:No idea why Owen didn't wait a turn to bust the Elspeth Ultimate. Floch has ways to kill Elspeth. At least this way we can have an elblem that he can't remove. But yeah, I think Sphinx's Revelation is good, but it's only enabled because of Elixir and Planar Cleansing.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:No idea why Owen didn't wait a turn to bust the Elspeth Ultimate. Would that have actually helped? Wouldn't Floch just have rev'd for a bunch at EOT and then cast a Planar Cleansing?
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Ramos posted:Floch has ways to kill Elspeth. At least this way we can have an elblem that he can't remove. And the other Sphinx's Revelations it draws. And the piles of degenerate combos like Quicken/sweeper it assembles with ease. It's going to be funny when these people find they're not as good at Magic as they thought when it cycles out.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:No idea why Owen didn't wait a turn to bust the Elspeth Ultimate. If he had waited, he would have been in the same situation, except without the emblem on the table. He knew that Floch had a Sphinx's Rev in hand, and could draw a ton of cards to find a Planar Cleansing.
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Sphinx's Revelation is a card that isn't overpowered, but Wizards still should not have printed. It just makes the game longer and longer.
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Ramos posted:Floch has ways to kill Elspeth. At least this way we can have an elblem that he can't remove. The ways that Floch removes Elspeth also clear out the board of creatures. The emblem is plenty useless without dudes. It's completely moot though, Owen was never climbing out of that hole.
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Boxman posted:Is that the case for the prelims,too? If so, why? It feels weird to change the rules only at this level. It isn't as though timers get turned off in Street Fighter for EVO. Only stage in PT where time limits are off is the top 8. Floch had to play within the 55 minute time limits during the Swiss rounds as anyone alse. I think that was sweet magic and I'll root for the UW Control over pile of burn or three colour goodstuff decks any day of the week. Do like Owen's (and Huey's) deck too though a fair bit, a lot more than either on the second semi.
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The Bw deck is better vs MonoB. The MonoB list is better vs rev decks.
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LGD posted:Would that have actually helped? Wouldn't Floch just have rev'd for a bunch at EOT and then cast a Planar Cleansing? ShadeofBlue posted:If he had waited, he would have been in the same situation, except without the emblem on the table. He knew that Floch had a Sphinx's Rev in hand, and could draw a ton of cards to find a Planar Cleansing. Yes but the same way if he gets an Emblem, its irrelevant because Floch is going to Rev and find a counter for the following Elspeth/any threat and the Emblem will be pretty useless. It's completely moot though, Owen was never climbing out of that hole.
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Sphinx's Revelation rules.
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BizarroAzrael posted:It's going to be funny when these people find they're not as good at Magic as they thought when it cycles out. I agree in general but you can't really say that in the context of the Pro Tour. These guys are the best in the world at what they do, and it's not like Owen couldn't have played U/W if it was such a win button. It just happened to be a bad matchup/match for him.
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I want the planeswalkers deck to make it so he can Slaughter Games the stupid rev's out of Floch's deck every game.
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Lunsku posted:Only stage in PT where time limits are off is the top 8. Floch had to play within the 55 minute time limits during the Swiss rounds as anyone alse. Okay, that makes sense; that's the same as any major tournament, then. Also, about Cunningham: after so long of staring at perfectly matching Zendikar/unhinged lands, I love that this guy's unremarkable basics don't match. 
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According to the PT stream, Mondon's playing "Jund Plainswalkers" So some kind of Boggart Arsonist, Zodaic Rooster, Cairn Wanderer deck?  e: they just fixed it
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