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Business head calls for fewer uni studentsquote:Australian universities are enrolling too many domestic students who should opt for vocational education and training instead, a leading business figure says. Now I'm certainly in favour of vocational training. We're not all going to be engineers doctors lawyers or scientists. But when you take away vocational training funding and demand the private sector cover the short fall, you're not going to get much sympathy for this kind of yap. If it's not a class war you're waging, why not actually boost funding not cut it? ewe2 fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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SynthOrange posted:We're all gonna die No, your children will be. I already have my vaccinations. FYGM ewe2 posted:[url=http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/business-head-calls-for-fewer-uni-students-20140803-zzx27.html]Business head calls for fewer uni students Now I'm certainly in favour of vocational training. We're not all going to be engineers doctors lawyers or scientists. But when you take away vocational training funding and demand the private sector cover the short fall, you're not going to get much sympathy for this kind of yap. If it's not a class war you're waging, why not actually boost funding not cut it? [/quote] What is going on with so many people talking at Israeli hosted events recently? People should really ignore what comes out of organisations or institutes like the IPA, BCA and other self interest groups.
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You Am I posted:No, your children will be. I already have my vaccinations. FYGM Sorry about the errant BB quote. This kind of connection really destroys the message, doesn't it. Talking about education at a We Support Children-Bombers rally is going to be lost in the WTF.
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Captain Pissweak posted:I thought we were repealing the racial vilification laws? It's not vilification when jihadis and tamils are really out to steal our jobs/women/investment properties. It is vilification to point out that Israel bombs people to defend illegal settlements. Ragingsheep posted:gently caress the poors I love Hockey's whinging "B...B..BBBBUT THE RICH PAY SO MUCH TAXES!" at the end. That's the point you overblown high street number cruncher, they pay taxes because they earn so much loving more than the rest of us, ergo they can afford to kick something back into the pot to pay for all the social resources that allow the rest of society to pay for what they're hawking. If you don't have welfare then all the guys with three Woolies franchises, or two NQR's, suddenly lose a shitload of customers, which is bad for business. A solid social infrastructure makes sure that the economy works because the rich don't hoard against the revolution and the poor don't live in perpetual fear of dying in a ditch. But you forgot the second part. EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/03/victims-britains-harsh-welfare-sanctions?CMP=soc_567 I read this this morning, and I realized that to me, the take home message was that the system was incredible cruel. To a tory, the take-home message is that the guy's sister is cruel for not endeavoring harder to help him. Everything in their policies indicates it. It's seriously like listening to ancien regieme aristos defending the poor paying all the tax. After all, the poor use so many public services, why shouldn't they pay? Now they're literally proposing a loving corvee on the unemployed. I knew Parliament House was such a meandering clusterfuck for a reason! Bomb-Bunny fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/budget-cuts-hit-lowestincome-earners-hardest-says-treasury-20140803-zzwhz.htmlquote:The federal government delivered its May budget fully aware its spending cuts would hit poorer households much harder than wealthier ones, a Fairfax Media freedom of information request has revealed. Malevolent Misinformation
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Some actual living people thought joe jockey was "one of the good ones" before anyone gave him any responsibility or power.
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You Am I posted:No, your children will be. I already have my vaccinations. FYGM Nah, I'm fine mate, my kids got their vaccos already FYGM .... Grandkids might be hosed though
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quote:That story is wrong because it fails to take into account a range of things like the fact that higher income households pay half their income in tax wat
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People seem to be incapable of understanding marginal tax rates. e: plus the last time the marginal tax rate for the top bracket was 50% or over was 1986-87. adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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adamantium|wang posted:People seem to be incapable of understanding marginal tax rates. As if facts and a proper understanding of them matter in todays world.
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It's cute you think they're accidentally incorrect instead of puposefully lying through their teeth. Australian Politics; Evil or just Dumb?
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Both.
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Just caught the end of a chunk on the ABC alleging the backbenchers are really concerned and Labor has finally woken up and are doing five weeks of pointing out Abbott's lies till Sept 7, starting with the idea of the unity ticket.
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Captain Pissweak posted:Both. Nah, if they were truly incompetent every now and then they'd do something like raise the dole by accident.
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adamantium|wang posted:People seem to be incapable of understanding marginal tax rates. "People" in this case being the Treasurer of Australia
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I don't think Hockey misunderstands it; rather he's trying to deliberately muddy the waters.
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IMO, real answer is that they are both dumb and ideologues. They think their ideology is good and therefore must result in good things but they are too stupid, entrenched in their ideology and cowardly to actually examine the outcomes it creates or to be able to admit that the results are poo poo.
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WebDog posted:Just caught the end of a chunk on the ABC alleging the backbenchers are really concerned and Labor has finally woken up and are doing five weeks of pointing out Abbott's lies till Sept 7, starting with the idea of the unity ticket. So basically more frothing, rabid, ineffectual pap from Blip Smithereen, alleged Leader of something or other. Honestly it's like watching Hewson or Peacock but without and opposing Keating to make it memorable, just dull forgetable dross from a dull forgetable man who can't make even good invective sound believable. I'm not saying that poor old Bill can't sound like he means it, but he can't sound like he wants to mean it. He comes off like a sort of fuzzy middle-manager you're not sure you report to. Really it's all horse-race bullshit anyhow, but Labor can't even make a play for believable on any given day when the born to rules aren't out in top and tails.
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Bomb-Bunny posted:So basically more frothing, rabid, ineffectual pap from Blip Smithereen, alleged Leader of something or other. Honestly it's like watching Hewson or Peacock but without and opposing Keating to make it memorable, just dull forgetable dross from a dull forgetable man who can't make even good invective sound believable. I'm not saying that poor old Bill can't sound like he means it, but he can't sound like he wants to mean it. He comes off like a sort of fuzzy middle-manager you're not sure you report to. Really it's all horse-race bullshit anyhow, but Labor can't even make a play for believable on any given day when the born to rules aren't out in top and tails. Shorten is Bill Hayden, Albo is Bob Hawke, it all makes perfect sense.
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Look at his steely resolve. Now there's a man of conviction, a man of action, standing up for hard truths no matter what the consequences.
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Is the Australian Liberal party a 50' baby crushing the town under its own ignorant power? Or is it Dracula, in control and lusting for blood? The real answer is probably that the Australian Liberal party is in fact, Duckula. Turnbull is Nanny, Morrisin is Igor.
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QM, BCR, that one fuckhead here who is in the police. I'm thinking about diversifying my skill set. To do this, I'll need to undergo some training. The two areas I'm looking at are getting a sparky's license, or audio forensics. I have talent for both. QM, how ducked is university looking these days? BCR, what's the tradesperson market looking like these days. I understand that they've made it harder to become a sparky now and most people fail the tests. I'm not worried about failing, merely hoping that those capable of passing will have more work and less competition. Police goon fuckhead, how much demand is there for audio forensics? Is it used much by the AFP, ASIO/ASIS, and state police? Are there a lot of people working in the field already? How terrible is it working with our boys in blue?
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I'm sure you'll get some good answers by calling them a fuckhead.
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Mithranderp posted:I legit thought that cartoon was depicting Rupert Murdoch. I always thought it was Professor Farnsworth. It kind of looks like Futurama?
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Police goon fuckhead BB has the best bedside manner
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Don't call a spade a spade!
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Lol bb wants to work for the filth.
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quote:Government told Tamil asylum seekers they would be forced onto lifeboats and dropped in the ocean This loving government
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:BCR, what's the tradesperson market looking like these days. I understand that they've made it harder to become a sparky now and most people fail the tests. I'm not worried about failing, merely hoping that those capable of passing will have more work and less competition. If you've got the cash, pay TAFE for the Cert II Electrical Engineering. Its six months where you learn the stuff, before the apprenticeship. If you're lucky you can do a traineeship. Traineeships are shorter and over as soon as you tick the boxes, apprenticeships are four years mandatory. You might want to look into getting a cabling license and going into security systems. Its quicker and pays about $70,000 a year for 45hr shift work a week. Diesel Mechanics, Electricians and Plumbers are still in demand. You'd have to look into what your state wants and trains. If you're going to get trade skills you're going to want to do it with the government, because they're going to treat you better. Adult apprenticeships are pretty hard to find (over 21) because they've got to pay $750ish rather than $500 ish a week. You're also going to have a lot of personality clashes. BCR fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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BCR posted:You might want to look into getting a cabling license and going into security systems. Its quicker and pays about $70,000 a week for 45hr shift work a week. I need to switch jobs.
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I type gud
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BCR posted:If you've got the cash, pay TAFE for the Cert II Electrical Engineering. Its six months where you learn the stuff, before the apprenticeship. If you're lucky you can do a traineeship. Traineeships are shorter and over as soon as you tick the boxes, apprenticeships are four years mandatory. You might want to look into getting a cabling license and going into security systems. Its quicker and pays about $70,000 a year for 45hr shift work a week. Diesel Mechanics, Electricians and Plumbers are still in demand. You'd have to look into what your state wants and trains. If you're going to get trade skills you're going to want to do it with the government, because they're going to treat you better. Adult apprenticeships are pretty hard to find (over 21) because they've got to pay $750ish rather than $500 ish a week. You're also going to have a lot of personality clashes. Thanks BCR, you're a righteous old chum. I'm not looking at anything working for anyone else, just the license to run my own business so I can do jobs on weekends / when in between TV contracts and still have a cash flow.
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:QM, how ducked is university looking these days? Unbelievably hosed Seriously though it's probably okay if you're not planning to go into academia. If you are, though, here there be dragons.
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You're definately going to have to do it part time through TAFE or council/state then. They're happy for you to do it part time. Private owners want to get the max work out of you, and fully exploit you.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:Unbelievably hosed Hey "hoping to get into academia" buddy I keep seeing ratios of 1 permanent STEM academic position for every 50 or so PhD students that graduate.
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Freudian Slip posted:Hey "hoping to get into academia" buddy I've literally stopped making any plans that revolve around getting a job in science in Australia. At this point I'm closer to assuming that I'll try for work in the non-profit sector, hopefully with the Greens.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:I've literally stopped making any plans that revolve around getting a job in science in Australia. At this point I'm closer to assuming that I'll try for work in the non-profit sector, hopefully with the Greens. My partner's doing her Masters, and our only hope is either grunt lab work in pharma or a DNA lab of somekind. Or hitching a wagon to her supervisor, who we're super lucky is a kicking rad guy.
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BB I imagine the various intelligence agencies have a need for audio forensics but I'd think that it's mostly done in-house, which would require a painfully invasive security clearance. And to be honest dude with your posting history I can't see you getting one.
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