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I am down for hearing about miserable weirdos and bad writers any day.
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I am down for the niche dating megasode to finally come out. Also, for the rest of my documents to be read because I am extremely self-centered and narcissistic
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Aug 3, 2014 21:11
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There's a 'terrible goon fiction' document in the works somewhere.
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Aug 3, 2014 21:12
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Squint posted:Well, what kinds of subjects would you folks want to hear more of? About 90% of the episodes we do now are selections put together by listeners. Honestly, looking at the submitted content spreadsheet, most of them look great. The only one I'd be worried about is Creatrix Tiara, and that's just because it seems like it'd be really easy to slide from "let's laugh at these insufferable non-binary people" to "let's laugh at these non-binary people" and I really don't want to deal with that. Anyway, as for your actual question, it feels like it's time for everyone to get together and laugh at some bad fanfiction. Just something nice and light and drama-free. No matter what you think about the last page, it's been a while since we've had one.
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Aug 3, 2014 21:14
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I'd love to hear more episodes on bad fiction and poetry, they're some of my favorites. Though I might be a tad biased.  The Braking Bad: Allens Attack short is the first thing I link when introducing people to the podcast, since it's a handy length, gets right to the point, and is hilarious.
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Aug 4, 2014 00:22
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If you want to help do a bad fiction one, there's a thread on ballp.it right now where you can contribute. I started out making a document for the FPlus that was 'worst of Thunderdome' but it kinda expanded out to 'worst of SA' and I think we could probably take it further. If you've got any bad internet fiction they haven't done, link it in the google doc below and I'll try to clean the whole thing up into a coherent fplus doc at some point. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ML410PQ53rMtRpIf-i6q00LZa3iqAq8cbvQzVBm9o4A/edit?usp=sharing
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Aug 4, 2014 01:55
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I looked through the submitted content table, just to make sure that I was right. My favorite recent flavor of Stupid Internet isn't even in there. I think it's now my duty to put together a Sovereign Citizen document. Question is where to start in looking for the stupid people. I know I want to include segments of the 140-page document by an actual judge debunking their entire platform, and I'm sure there are some good court transcripts around, but I don't know if there's just a whole bloody forum of people trading Legal Wizarding Tips.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:42
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:If you want to help do a bad fiction one, there's a thread on ballp.it right now where you can contribute. I started out making a document for the FPlus that was 'worst of Thunderdome' but it kinda expanded out to 'worst of SA' and I think we could probably take it further. If you've got any bad internet fiction they haven't done, link it in the google doc below and I'll try to clean the whole thing up into a coherent fplus doc at some point. Was hoping to see some Benny in there. Well, dude's got enough problems I suppose.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:29
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BKPR posted:I am down for hearing about miserable weirdos and bad writers any day. There HAS to be good material on Farmers Only, right?
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Aug 4, 2014 03:31
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:If you want to help do a bad fiction one, there's a thread on ballp.it right now where you can contribute. I started out making a document for the FPlus that was 'worst of Thunderdome' but it kinda expanded out to 'worst of SA' and I think we could probably take it further. If you've got any bad internet fiction they haven't done, link it in the google doc below and I'll try to clean the whole thing up into a coherent fplus doc at some point. Djeser and I are putting together a doc for Thunderdome specifically, considering I'm the one that put most of the content in yours, but feel free to cover other things or expand on the fic advice/Farm stuff I linked in there; CC's got plenty to go around. BKPR posted:Was hoping to see some Benny in there. Well, dude's got enough problems I suppose. I considered it, but Benny doesn't hold up to the likes of Baudolino or RunningIntoWalls, and he's actually improving. ...Slowly.
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Aug 4, 2014 03:39
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Echo Cian posted:I considered it, but Benny doesn't hold up to the likes of Baudolino or RunningIntoWalls, and he's actually improving. ...Slowly. A lot of the bad writing is also more 'boring beige cliche' rather than the outright bombastic awful that would make an entertaining read. There's very little hair streaming like wet lasagna in a fan and a lot of "The big barbarian swung his sword at the orc and said 'yarg' and the orc died". That's why I'm expanding the net to all terrible internet fiction. That doc is editable by anybody, so if you think of something and want to add it, please do. My goal is to have far too much stuff on there, so I can go through and pick the bestworst entries. I don't think they've done anything from My Immortal, and I've been looking around poetry sites trying to pull up the best emo poetry. Poetry Free-For-All is pretty good, because the userbase are pretty smart and cutting, but they get a lot of new signups who think they're THE NEXT POETRY GENIUS and who get super mad when they get torn out. Their forum for deleted/locked threads is full of good content, though the admins clear it out every so often and some of my favourite ego blowups are long gone. EDIT: jesus took me forever digging through the archives to find this: Jim, Jaime and Porthos. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Aug 4, 2014 04:00
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Between this and the offbeat marriage episode, it seems that some people can be a tad too defensive about topics they relate to on some level. And that's fine and dandy, but it changes how you're approaching the material. Terrible fanfiction? I'd never write that. Obscure fetish? Nope, I gently caress' em normal. Idiotic questions? I'm fairly smart! Themed wedding / sustaining my passion via contributions? Hmm, it has it's upsides I think. And then that's the ballgame, sympathy for the subject makes it harder to laugh about them. Until you realize the thing has good aspects of course, but the readers have more fun mocking poo poo than playing devil's advocate, so don't worry about it! Or start a competing podcast named "G Flat: Sarcastic things with Perspective".
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Aug 4, 2014 04:04
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kalensc posted:Or start a competing podcast named "G Flat: Sarcastic things with Perspective".
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Aug 4, 2014 04:05
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The Failing Grade Podcast: Awful things performed with gusto!
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Aug 4, 2014 04:32
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There needs to be more irregular in the future. The three episodes we got were incredibly interesting.
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Aug 4, 2014 04:35
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Another bad fanfic one would be pretty solid. "JUST THEN" remains a firm favorite. And if we're looking for terrible local content, surely someone has to be compiling a "Best" of E/N.
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Aug 4, 2014 05:11
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BKPR posted:Was hoping to see some Benny in there. Well, dude's got enough problems I suppose.  Seriously though, the last thing I want is to end up on an episode of the F+. Big fan of the podcast, though. I've been re-listening to the Mars episode over and over again.
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Aug 4, 2014 05:54
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I've always wanted to compose a doc strictly of This Is Thin Privilege submissions, but I can't read that site for longer than 10 seconds without snapping.
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Aug 4, 2014 05:57
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Bean posted:I've always wanted to compose a doc strictly of This Is Thin Privilege submissions, but I can't read that site for longer than 10 seconds without snapping. Luckily for you, that doc is already in the hopper.
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Aug 4, 2014 06:03
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Gimnbo posted:Luckily for you, that doc is already in the hopper.
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Aug 4, 2014 06:05
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kalensc posted:Until you realize the thing has good aspects of course, but the readers have more fun mocking poo poo than playing devil's advocate, so don't worry about it!
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Aug 4, 2014 07:35
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I was going to submit a doc on "Were-rollercoaster" AKA "Twisted!", but someone beat me to it. Which one of your pranksters put that one in there? I'd really love to read that document.Cleretic posted:I think it's now my duty to put together a Sovereign Citizen document. Question is where to start in looking for the stupid people. http://ballp.it/index.php?topic=574.0 You'll probably want to read this thread first. Finding content for that is problematic because a lot of it is either really dense, really repetitive, or relies on a lot of knowledge of law. Your best bet would be to go to the source of the pure-strain crazy and actually find places where these types congregate, and skim for the good stuff. Then mix that in with some choice quotes from judges.
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Aug 4, 2014 08:14
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Yea SC types are funny when they make big whiny videos and/or get tazed. Their actual writing is boring legal mumbo jumbo that boils down to "no YOU shut up mom".
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Aug 4, 2014 08:39
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Cleretic posted:I don't know if there's just a whole bloody forum of people trading Legal Wizarding Tips. You're looking for Sui Juris Club.
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Aug 4, 2014 11:03
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:
Echo Cian posted:
Aww...I feel loved guys. 
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Aug 4, 2014 22:26
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RunningIntoWalls posted:Aww...I feel loved guys.
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Aug 5, 2014 05:47
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Thanks for reminding me it's time for my weekly vanity search.
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Aug 5, 2014 06:28
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TetsuoTW posted:Did... did you find this thread by searching for your username? Because seriously. Search doesn't work properly yet.
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Aug 5, 2014 08:11
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Always remember that there are a lot more people lurking a thread than posting in it. I haven't posted in like 80% of the threads I bookmarked.
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Aug 5, 2014 15:55
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Well, I'm certainly glad I wasn't the only one to feel this episode wasn't as strong as usual. Like, most people I know who use Patreon are freelancer journalists trying to make a buck, like Susie Cagle or Cara Ellison, and I think those are the people who make a good use of the platform. It's definitely funny to laugh at the furry pornographers raking in the big bucks for lovely webcomics, but that happens pretty much everywhere on the internet, and it doesn't make the rest of the site less bad. I guess it felt like there was a little too much bitterness from the crew.  Also, I support doing more stuff on absolutely terrible people.
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Aug 9, 2014 22:15
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It was real hosed up when they mocked that struggling freelance journalist, agreed. Kickstarter also had good causes, so what, these were dumb.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:54
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I support someone on Patreon and I don't feel like this episode is unfair. Patreon just seems so much more blatant than Kickstarter or IndieGoGo, especially with the pay by the comic campaigns and how none of them had even vaguely worthwhile rewards.
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Aug 10, 2014 07:18
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Improbable Lobster posted:I support someone on Patreon and I don't feel like this episode is unfair. Patreon just seems so much more blatant than Kickstarter or IndieGoGo, especially with the pay by the comic campaigns and how none of them had even vaguely worthwhile rewards. It wasn't unfair just comparatively unfunny.
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Aug 10, 2014 10:23
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I think Patreon's episode is sort of the odd one out of the 'Give Me Money' series, but not in a way that's unfunny. It's just a different type of funny. The other crowdfunding episodes have all been mainly about stupid people with bad ideas. They slot in with the Idea Wiki, AHHHA, and FilmProposals as people who're just laughably dumb. There's a smaller subsection of people who aren't as stupid, but make up for it by being insufferable, but it's mostly the Idiot Show. Patreon's balance is the other way around. There's some idiots, of course, but the main focus is on people with slightly more of a clue, but not enough to not be irritating. We're in the 'pretentious, self-absorbed people who don't get how the world works' corner, with NaNoWriMo, Review Rinse Repeat and Troper Tales. I personally don't like those kinds of episodes as much, mostly because these people give me douchechills, but it's not an inherently invalid angle.
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Aug 10, 2014 11:26
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Honestly, I think my biggest problem with this was that there wasn't even really anything to get mad about. It's not even like Kickstarter or Indiegogo or gofundme or anything like that because of the way it works. Patreon is payments in small increments, and patrons can choose to stop giving the people money any time they want if they feel that the person no longer deserves their money, or that they aren't doing what they said they would. With those other croudfunding things it's so easy to just take the money and run, and there's something to get mad at there. Patreon doesn't have that. Like, the crux of this episode was "HOW DARE YOU ASK PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU MONEY FOR A HOBBY" and, like, there's nothing actually wrong with that? It's not like they're stealing money or anything, and people can stop giving at any time. And I can also see how it might have been more of a "Look at these ridiculous projects that people want to do!" episode but even then, Patreon is way more down to earth than other croudfunding sites. It's just people wanting to make comics or videos or whatever, and I see those all the time. Portaxx getting so outraged at that cat comic lady getting "36 DOLLARS A MONTH? DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I HAD TO WORK TO GET AN ANIMATION JOB!" Was really the only thing in the episode that was funny to me, but not for the intended reason I think. It was especially disappointing being a followup to the previous episode which was basically gold the entire way through, from poop.computer to poop.computer For something more constructive, I agree that maybe it's time to go back to the well of super bad fanfic or really nutso people/groups. Those episodes
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This sums up my feelings pretty well. Quitting your job to live off Patreon money? Dumb. Making comics about your monster waifu? Dumb. Accepting money to do a thing you like? Fine. I said it before, but being open to something doesn't mean you feel entitled to it. The episode just feels like berating people for having confidence in their work. "How dare you even conceive that this might be worth money to someone?"
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Aug 11, 2014 03:41
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Again you realize the thing they were saying they can't believe people expect money for was poo poo like a child looking medusa poo poo comic and other retarded poo poo. By this logic if you want them to go back to fanfics and all how dare you make fun of these people just writing what they like they're not hurting anyone writing what they like on a fanfic site or whatever. edit: What I'm saying is if you believe doing a dumb thing earnestly absolves it from mockery I legit kinda don't understand what podcast you've listened to before this if you're suddenly bothered. sexpig by night fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Aug 11, 2014 |
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Aug 11, 2014 04:05
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Again you realize the thing they were saying they can't believe people expect money for was poo poo like a child looking medusa poo poo comic and other retarded poo poo. By this logic if you want them to go back to fanfics and all how dare you make fun of these people just writing what they like they're not hurting anyone writing what they like on a fanfic site or whatever. You do realize you've made this same post like four times now, right? It's not like this is going to be the post that makes us realize that you're right and our actual reaction to the episode is wrong. Also, I would tell you why this episode's mockery is different from all the other episodes' mockery tonally, but you probably won't actually listen to it this time either so I'm just going to save us all some time and not bother.
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Aug 11, 2014 04:19
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Again you realize the thing they were saying they can't believe people expect money for was poo poo like a child looking medusa poo poo comic and other retarded poo poo. By this logic if you want them to go back to fanfics and all how dare you make fun of these people just writing what they like they're not hurting anyone writing what they like on a fanfic site or whatever. Well, in the wrap-up portion at the end they pretty much poo poo on Patreon as a concept in general, so I get where people are coming from. I didn't hate the episode as a whole and thought it had its share of funny moments, but the above-mentioned outrage from Portaxx and a few similar statements scattered throughout did feel petty to me. Whatever, though: I look forward to more terrible things read with enthusiasm, wherever they're found!
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Portaxx in particular seemed really upset about the concept itself. Just very mad that someone might get paid to do something in their spare time, regardless of what the actual project was. That's what I'm talking about.
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