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Old Man Pants posted:Is this a Ruckus clone? I only ask because the gauges engine and shock look really wrong, and I've been riding my ruck for 7 years. Rugoberta Munchu fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Hopefully I'm missing something obvious on my currently broken-down scooter. I'm not terribly mechanically talented, so keep that in mind. New-ish Lance Havana 50. 584 miles. Drove to work last night just fine. Left this morning, got about 12 blocks, ans started losing power. Did hit a small pothole just prior, nothing deep. She starts up just fine, revs as normal, and then loses almost all power. The more throttle I give, the less power I get and the more it sounds like it's going to die. Can kind of baby it along at 5mph or so. Has a full tank of gas. Checked oil, level seems fine. Anyone have a good guess?
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Jul 7, 2014 16:47
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ExplodingChef posted:Hopefully I'm missing something obvious on my currently broken-down scooter. I'm not terribly mechanically talented, so keep that in mind. Could be spark plug if this is a 2 stroke, if you're positive it was caused by the pothole check spark plug wire and air filter box, more throttle = less power and engine bogged down means it's running way rich.
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Jul 7, 2014 18:34
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It's a 4-stroke GY6. I'm guessing fuel delivery being the problem. Those carburetors are notorious for having their innards break. Yiu bought it not terribly long ago. How's the warranty?
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Jul 8, 2014 00:20
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:It's a 4-stroke GY6. I'm guessing fuel delivery being the problem. Those carburetors are notorious for having their innards break. Yiu bought it not terribly long ago. How's the warranty? Warranty is still good, I've only had the scoot a few months. Called the shop, they said their first guess would be debris or water in the carb. Gonna have them pick it up this week.
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Jul 8, 2014 09:46
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ExplodingChef posted:Warranty is still good, I've only had the scoot a few months. Called the shop, they said their first guess would be debris or water in the carb. Gonna have them pick it up this week.
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Jul 8, 2014 20:37
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He's had it less than 6 months. Dunno if Lance is Taiwanese or mainland but might as well have the warranty cover as much as possible now.
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Jul 9, 2014 03:21
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ExplodingChef posted:Has a full tank of gas When did you last fill it? I got unlucky with a lovely fuel pump once which dumped a bunch of water into mine, and killed off the engine until it was removed.
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Jul 10, 2014 20:07
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Hi. I have been kicking around the idea of getting a scooter mainly just to gently caress off with on the weekends. Looking at Zumas or a Ruckus mainly. Also I found this relevant video for you all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYRrBQj5gr0&t=10s 
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Jul 15, 2014 02:38
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I saw no leather jackets and only two pairs of gloves. Squiiiiiiddssss 
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Jul 15, 2014 03:07
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Taiwan actually does have cars, that particular road is scooter only But yeah, the calmness is great
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Jul 16, 2014 15:32
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Sometimes when cars are merging into me without looking first, or tailgating me because I'm only doing 55 in a 35 zone, I find myself fantasizing about commuting in a place like Taiwan...
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Jul 16, 2014 21:15
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Goredema posted:Sometimes when cars are merging into me without looking first, or tailgating me because I'm only doing 55 in a 35 zone, I find myself fantasizing about commuting in a place like Taiwan... Man just reading that made me super frustrated. On a decently powered bike you can just pull on the throttle till you leave the rear end in a top hat behind. On a scooter they may not have the power necessary to do so.
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Jul 16, 2014 21:19
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Coredump posted:Man just reading that made me super frustrated. On a decently powered bike you can just pull on the throttle till you leave the rear end in a top hat behind. On a scooter they may not have the power necessary to do so.
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Jul 16, 2014 22:13
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I am about to do my first oil/gear oil change on my Buddy 170i. Is 10w40 Synthetic Motorcylce oil from Valveline OK? I read some scooter forum where people where sperging out in debate over which oil to use and I knew I should have came here instead. This is my first maintenance on my bike. Anything else I should check while changing these fluids?
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Jul 18, 2014 21:33
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You should use gear oil not engine oil. [edit: I misread your post. The manual recommends 15w40 but it probably won't make a difference.] open24hours fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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Jul 19, 2014 02:25
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Different oil ratings are to do with different climates/temperatures right? 10w40 is pretty much the catch-all stuff to use.
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Jul 19, 2014 23:58
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Different oil ratings are about their viscosity at different temperatures, but they don't directly tell you anything about matching an oil to a climate or anything like that. Use what the manufacturer recommends. If they say 10W40, put in 10W40. There are certain times (extreme heat or cold -- like, Arizona summer or Canadian winter) where you might move up or down a weight grade, but whatever the manual recommends is going to be the correct oil for the vast majority of riding situations. Don't buy into online bullshit. It's literally bullshit 100% of the time and there are no special tricks or top secret oils or anything like that. Get a big jug of Shell Rotella T in whatever weight your manual recommends and don't bother with anything else. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Jul 20, 2014 |
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Jul 20, 2014 07:32
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drat, these stupid oil filters need some special tool to tighten. What kind of garbage is that? HiFlo H183..do not buy
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Jul 20, 2014 20:00
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ExplodingChef posted:Warranty is still good, I've only had the scoot a few months. Called the shop, they said their first guess would be debris or water in the carb. Gonna have them pick it up this week. The saga continues. Let it sit a couple days, started it up, ran fine. Took it in, they checked it over, said it looked OK. Hasn't sat any length of time for the gas to go bad, has had 2 oil changes, etc. Couple days later, bam, did it again. Lost power, giving it throttle causes it to almost but not quite die, gets a tiny bit of forward momentum. Had the shop pick it up. They rejetted the carbs, checked the valves, and said they checked everything. Picked it up, got about a mile from the shop, did it again. Head mechanic ran over, gave me the shop scooter, and took mine back. Got it running again by throwing it on the center stand and revving the hell out of it. Today they were going to drain and replace all the fluids, then give it some heavy use to see if they can replicate the problem. I did tell the owner of the shop that I'd be willing to just trade up to a Stella 125 and call it even, but he didn't seem too inclined towards that idea  .Missed a rally this weekend that would have been fun, weather has been gorgeous. Wonder if there's any sort of lemon law for scooters :/
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Jul 22, 2014 01:37
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ExplodingChef posted:The saga continues. Lemon laws should apply to all motor vehicles, so figure out if that applies to you yet. What's the fuel level when the bike does this to you? A friend of mine had similar-seeming symptoms on his brand-new-at-the-time Stella 4-stroke, and they eventually figured out it was only happening with a very full tank of gas - and it was preventing the fuel breather/some emissions parts from being able to vent correctly. And if you're gonna trade up looking for a more reliable scooter... don't get a Stella. The people I know with Stella autos have already had problems and they've only been out a couple months.
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Jul 22, 2014 02:43
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Ribsauce posted:drat, these stupid oil filters need some special tool to tighten. What kind of garbage is that? HiFlo H183..do not buy
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Jul 22, 2014 02:50
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Lemon laws should apply to all motor vehicles, so figure out if that applies to you yet. Looked into the lemon thing, and unfortunately in Wisconsin lemon law doesn't apparently apply to mopeds. I've had it happen on both a full tank and about a quarter tank or so. Wouldn't think it would be bad gas, I fill up from the same busy station 99% of the time. I've also heard that the Stellas are prone to problems. Gorgeous scooters 'tho. ExplodingChef fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Jul 22, 2014 09:37
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Picked it up from the shop this afternoon, got it 2-3 miles, did it again. Put it on the center stand, gave it a bunch of throttle, put it down, got the rest of the way (4 miles or so) home OK, 'tho it seems like it's a little hesitant accelerating from a complete stop. Weirdest loving thing, especially since it seems completely random. I can't imagine that these little 4-strokes are all that terribly complicated. Now I guess I see what Lance will do for me on a company level. Emailed them last night and got a prompt response from a parts/service guy asking for more details, so hopefully they'll play ball. I just wanna ride my gay hipster bike  .
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Jul 23, 2014 05:55
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I seem to have decided on a scooter that I want. Honda Elite 250. I see many models from 1985 and thereabouts. In my opinion they look great, but that may be just me. Are spare parts/repairs a problem with such an old scooter? What problems to expect?
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Jul 30, 2014 02:12
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The elites are a very long running model, and have a pretty good reputation all in all. They just recently changed body design within the last few years, but I'm not sure if it effected internals. Parts availability should be pretty decent. No concerns of note on my end if everything has been maintained well enough, but someone else may have more information than me.
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Jul 30, 2014 02:39
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Here is my scooter! 08 ruckus, yoshi exhaust, daytona shock, bride seat, polini variator and belt, and since this pic I have relocated the blinkers to where the reflectors were, shave the bunny ears and the rack out of the headlight assembly, and gave that a once over with some paint. 
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Jul 31, 2014 04:30
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Yeah I don't think I'd recommend a Stella if you want reliable. Stellas are kinda eccentric. Reliable would be a Buddy or anything Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki.
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Jul 31, 2014 05:39
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Yeah I don't think I'd recommend a Stella if you want reliable. Stellas are kinda eccentric. Reliable would be a Buddy or anything Honda/Yamaha/Suzuki. I would also add kymco and sym to the reliable list.
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Jul 31, 2014 14:00
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gently caress SYM, they left me high and dry for RV250 parts after their old American distributor burned down their warehouse for the insurance money shortly after the crash. Anyone tried the Integra DCT?
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Jul 31, 2014 14:39
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Anyone riding a Zuma 125? I am pretty much sold on this scooter. Just trolling CL looking for a good one at a reasonable price now...
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Jul 31, 2014 18:29
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Chinatown posted:Anyone riding a Zuma 125? I am pretty much sold on this scooter. I've ridden one, it's perfectly nice but also indistinguishable from any other Japanese or Taiwanese made scoot that size. I wouldn't turn down a Buddy at a great price, for example.
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Jul 31, 2014 18:50
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Radbot posted:gently caress SYM, they left me high and dry for RV250 parts after their old American distributor burned down their warehouse for the insurance money shortly after the crash. poo poo, I forgot about that bullshit. Yeah, gently caress SYM then.
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Aug 1, 2014 00:15
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Chinatown posted:Anyone riding a Zuma 125? I am pretty much sold on this scooter. I have one and I love it. It's everything I wanted it to be - adequately powered, fun to ride, reliable. I've had mine a bit over a year now. My main complaint would be that the seat is a bit uncomfortable, but it's not enough to keep me from doing a 350 mile weekend on it, for example. Oh, also, the stock tires are worthless bullshit in the rain, but I ride to commute in Seattle, so that matters a lot more to me than to most people. Radbot posted:I've ridden one, it's perfectly nice but also indistinguishable from any other Japanese or Taiwanese made scoot that size. I wouldn't turn down a Buddy at a great price, for example. You could say the same about any modern 125-150cc scooter from a major manufacturer. Slight differences in performance between them, but mostly it's subjective stuff. Objectively, though, the 12" wheels of the Zuma 125 give it very different handling characteristics than a 10" bike. And since they're the exact same size tires as the big 200-300cc modern Vespas it opens up some tire choices that are not available to 10" bikes. The only truly distinct scooter sold right now is the manual-shift Stella. I have one of the older 2-stroke ones. The 2-stroke Stella is an exciting bike to ride boringly, and a slightly-scary bike to ride excitedly. The Zuma is a boring bike to ride boringly*, but a very rewarding bike to ride excitedly. *(true for any CVT scooter) Radbot posted:gently caress SYM, they left me high and dry for RV250 parts after their old American distributor burned down their warehouse for the insurance money shortly after the crash. Hey now that was Carter Brothers' fault not SYM's! They have a new distributor.
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Aug 1, 2014 03:26
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"Gay Nudist Dad" posted:
Yeah, SYM is now being distributed by Lance PowerSports. Currently emailing back and forth with them as to why my drat scooter is not functioning correctly. New trick besides randomly dying is to be fine while giving it throttle, but die at an idle. We'll see what they end up doing for me.
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Aug 2, 2014 18:59
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Well, here is what I found on Craigslist. A 1985 Honda Elite 250 for 1000$. I'm told it runs great. That's the end of the good news. The bad: Cosmetic damage (I don't care), 57000 km on the odometer (OUCH!), stolen in the past (recovered and repaired since) and a broken speedometer cable. I'm thinking of offering 900$, but drat... that is a LOT of kilometers. Any advice? I'd like that scooter and I'm on a budget... I just don't want to buy something that will break down after a few commutes.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:08
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No Gravitas posted:I just don't want to buy something that will break down after a few commutes. In that case, it would be prudent to avoid buying a 30-year-old theft-recovery scooter that is damaged and missing parts.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:39
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No Gravitas posted:Well, here is what I found on Craigslist. That is not a good deal. That is a lot of miles and you can find a newer, nicer scooter for a grand, especially if you broaden your search beyond just the Elite 250. Apparently the Elite 250 used the same motor as the Helix for most of it's life (source), so that's a huge plus for engine/transmission parts availability, but I'd be weary of availability for Elite 250 specific parts.
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Aug 4, 2014 02:40
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Thanks for the advice. I realise I came across as a moron. I'm sorry about that. I'm stupid with mechanical stuff. I want to learn, but I'm not there yet. I need at least 150cc because I will be often accompanied by a pretty heavy person on the scooter. This kinda limits my options. This is Vancouver, things are insanely overpriced on Craigslist and otherwise. The cheapest 150 I could find new is about 2000$, from China. The used options are not pretty either. I figure the Honda can maybe absorb a repair or two and still come ahead until I switch to something else. I'm graduating in a couple of terms, but I need to commute somehow till then. I listened to your advice and I politely told the person that I'm scared of the mileage and that I'd love to buy it, but I cannot justify the purchase at this price. Back came the reply to make an offer. How much would you offer? And "nothing" is a perfectly good answer. Thanks again. I'm very lost in all of this.
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The thing about buying old vehicles is that they all need work done. It's just entropy -- machines need maintenance or they fall apart. You can't get around that. If you just want to ride an old vehicle, you should buy the most expensive one you can find, because it's already had most of the work done and should be pretty solid from the start. If you buy a cheap old vehicle, you need to account for a big chunk of money beyond the purchase price to replace all the things that wear out (fluids, tires, brakes, battery, maybe cables and seals) and then anything else unexpected on top of that. Then once you're back in running order, you still have to deal with the realities of old technology: tuning this, replacing that, fixing the other, gluing whatever back on. If that's what you're looking for, great -- it will be frustrating at times but it's rewarding to get an old thing working right again. If it's not what you want, it'll just be really frustrating. Basically, if you just want to ride, I'd say look for something under ten years old and less than maybe 25,000 km. The more scootery folks can recommend some models. If you want an Elite, you should be prepared to pay more than you expect and/or learn to wrench. I say this as someone whose first motorcycle started out as a pile of non-running junk in a barn, by the way. I got it back on the road to my satisfaction, but it took several months of work, blew up once, was out of commission at random intervals all the time, and cost me maybe double what I could have bought the finished product outright for. Don't do this if you want something to get yourself to and from school. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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