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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:how do you feel about the syrian civil war and the subsequent spillover of jihadists into neighboring countries? are you an assad man or do you get down with isis? stopped following the Syrian civil war a while ago, Assad is poo poo but I'm not sure if any of the parties fighting against him will be any better, I don't feel like there's a clear enough answer there to argue for any intervention. Only thing I'm certain of is that whoever ends up taking Assad's place is going to be funneled shitloads of US money to be another Egypt ISIS sucks but at the same time kicking the rear end of the shitshow of an army we left in Iraq means kurds benefit so vOv, we certainly aren't gonna be winning hearts and minds running in to blow them up Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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lol journalists asking critical questions? lol i say
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there's loaded questions then there's bursting at the seams questions 44. We can't trust you giving a clear answer because this italian dude said he was threatened. When will you start reporting pro-Israel news so that we can trust that you aren't under the influence of Hamas' Terror Units?
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Neurolimal posted:stopped following the Syrian civil war a while ago, Assad is poo poo but I'm not sure if any of the parties fighting against him will be any better, I don't feel like there's a clear enough answer there to argue for any intervention. Only thing I'm certain of is that whoever ends up taking Assad's place is going to be funneled shitloads of US money to be another Egypt you dont like isis? so what is it about their brand of violent sunni jihad that differs from hamas brand of violent sunni jihad? is it that hamas really sucks at it? did hamas get the short end of the stick in terms of starting position and resources? like if hamas was real good at mass executions would you still ride their dicks so hard?
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:you dont like isis? so what is it about their brand of violent sunni jihad that differs from hamas brand of violent sunni jihad? is it that hamas really sucks at it? did hamas get the short end of the stick in terms of starting position and resources? it's mostly the fact that they're super conservative without willing to negotiate, suicide bomb civilians, have no reason to exist, and there's cooler people in the territory to support meanwhile hamas is conservative but not to the extent of executing christians and enforcing super-sharia law, stopped suicide bombing civilians long before the occupation walls were raised, were democratically elected, exist to provide resistance in support of an independent Gaza Strip, and there's nobody else willing to keep up the fight for Palestine in the strip tldr isis exists to take land from iraq to impose a crazy fundamentalist regime, hamas exists to defend what little of palestine is left untouched by settlements Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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tbh I'm surprised childish nihilstic milbabies aren't all up on hamas, considering they're poor as heck but still do a ton with practical insurgent methods, while israel is a nation of incompetent conscripts that get billions of dollars in tech toys but somehow manage to miss five dudes walking up to an outpost, opening the unlocked door, and shooting ten retards in broad daylight gallant allocates less than a billion dollars/year to building smuggling tunnels for their citizens, organize what businesses and ministries exist, and defend against an enormous threat on their borders goofus gets billions of dollars, wastes 225 million dollars worth of ammunition leveling apartments and hospitals, throws a hissy fit that their dumb ol blockade is being smuggled around, retreats because they weren't expecting the enemy to be able to shoot their cars, and shoots its own captured soldiers to avoid negotiating the release of hundreds of wrongfully imprisoned citizens Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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I linked a whole mess of reporters earlier in the thread talking about Hamas running press conferences out of al-Shifa, using it as a military HQ, etc. Also a couple talking about missiles / mortars being launched from school courtyards. You can look through my post history if you want, it's late here. I want to close some links so: Here's the Finnish reporter who accidentally talked about rockets being fired from al-Shifa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu-e5qWXx-k She's now all buttmad now because she was only there to generate Pally propaganda (of course, otherwise she wouldn't have been let in) and accidentally gave away the show Here's a booby trapped school and zoo, this is from '09 but lol if you think Hamas has changed their tune since then. There's bunches of this poo poo on youtube if you can believe the lies and trickery of IDF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhs9ihSmbU Here's a report from '09 in Sderot talking about the effects of the rocketings. Worth reading in full but I'm quoting a lot anyway: http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2009/02/a-dispatch-from.php quote:“Sderot has had four days without the sounding of rocket alarms in the last eight years,” she said. “Four days. Why Sderot of all places? 20,000 people live here. Who cares? When they initially started to construct what we call the home-made Qassam rockets, they were very crude. They were very inaccurate. I mean they were inaccurate by a kilometer or two. And their range at the beginning was only five or six kilometers. They have since grown. But when they fire from the northeast corner of the Gaza Strip and they want to make sure Israelis feel it, the largest target they have is Sderot. They get a target which is clear, which is obvious. And that's why Sderot will continue to be the one that gets hit. It's within the range of the lethal inaccurate rockets, and it's the largest target on the horizon.” Michael Totten also did some visiting with Hezbollah when he lived in Lebanon, the experience sounds a lot like what reporters are dealing with in Hamasland - except that most of Beirut was free, while there's no escaping Gaza. Also just wanted to point out the police chief of Dubai - who admittedly is a colorful character - tweeting mocking Hamas: quote:n his Twitter account, which has grown drastically in popularity in recent months, Khalfan epitomizes the current bitter rivalry between Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, and Saudi Arabia and Egypt, both fierce critics of Hamas. Khalfan is firmly in the camp of the latter axis, in which the UAE stands alongside Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and his dislike for the Muslim Brotherhood is reportedly well-known. And Hamas is getting blown off by Hezbollah, who is neck deep in poo poo fighting in Syria: quote:According to Israeli news website NRG, quoting As-Safir, a leading newspaper in Lebanon, a source close to Hamas said, “Talk is cheap. While we praise [Hassan] Nasrallah’s views and likewise, the views of the leadership in Iran, we want to see real actions that shake the borders of Arab countries with Israel.” Which all goes to show that Hamas is, while still terroristically a threat, politically increasingly a joke to everyone but the Qataris who are all-in on MB, Erdogan who's a loopy-loo, and Western Leftists who are obsessed with Israel. Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:are you an assad man You know taco bell has a special menu for that
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Neurolimal posted:tbh I'm surprised childish nihilstic milbabies aren't all up on hamas, considering they're poor as heck but still do a ton with practical insurgent methods, while israel is a nation of incompetent conscripts that get billions of dollars in tech toys but somehow manage to miss five dudes walking up to an outpost, opening the unlocked door, and shooting ten retards in broad daylight
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Or is it an immoral and misguided strategy that leads state actors to retaliate against civilian populations, which merely only creates the conditions for more terrorism while hardening the resolve of the terrorists' target to not make concessions
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Omi-Polari posted:Is there is any empirical data to suggest american revolution, continued existence of the taliban, rise of ISIS in capturing Iraq territories outside fortified cities, apartheid activists acc. to the ruling afrikaners, civil rights dep. on your opinion on the black panthers' methods, malaysian insurgents acc. to that cool poster from a page or so ago, plenty more from there the thing is that when they win, they stop being called terrorists
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Neurolimal posted:tbh I'm surprised childish nihilstic milbabies aren't all up on hamas, considering they're poor as heck but still do a ton with practical insurgent methods
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Neurolimal posted:american revolution, continued existence of the taliban, rise of ISIS in capturing Iraq territories outside fortified cities, apartheid activists acc. to the ruling afrikaners, civil rights dep. on your opinion on the black panthers' methods, malaysian insurgents acc. to that cool poster from a page or so ago, plenty more from there
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Neurolimal posted:malaysian insurgents acc. to that cool poster from a page or so ago lol no try again, the CTs pretty clearly lost because instead of establishing a dreamland communist utopia they all got a) killed or b) ran off to Thailand where they were subsequently killed while Malaya became the independent and decidedly non-communist nation of Malaysia. As for the rest of your examples, the american revolution wasn't really an insurgency as opposed to a state on state conflict (albeit with one state quite a bit less better equipped than the other) and the only reason they got concessions from the British is because the Crown got otherwise occupied dealing with parts of the world it actually cared about, the Taliban haven't gotten poo poo for concessions, ditto ISIS (controlling territory through brute force is another story), I would hesitate to throw apartheid as an example for a whole variety of reasons, and lol if you think the Black Panthers accomplished poo poo through violent means other than scaring the poo poo out of whitey and bringing down a couple decades of repression on the American inner city/persons of color in the name of fighting drugs and law and order. Seizing/controlling territory by force in an insurgency != gaining political concessions through terrorism. Don't conflate the two just because it makes your argument easy.
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iyaayas01 posted:and lol if you think the Black Panthers accomplished poo poo through violent means other than scaring the poo poo out of whitey and bringing down a couple decades of repression on the American inner city/persons of color in the name of fighting drugs and law and order. lol if you think any concessions to black people during the civil rights era came from the soul-touching words of MLK, and not the threat of violent resistance if peaceful resistance failed i mean black people still get a ton of awful poo poo in america, but at least they can theoretically go to the same public schools as white people
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also ISIS just popped onto the scene not too long ago. let's see how they deal a few years from now. and yeah hamas is a different category than ISIS since hamas's goal is to force concessions like the tamil tigers or a million other self-destructive terrorist groups that only brought misery and defeat to themselves. even if you support the palestinian cause how can you look at hamas and not be deeply depressed
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Omi-Polari posted:even if you support the palestinian cause how can you look at hamas and not be deeply depressed because they manage to exist and keep Gaza from getting separated into 50 pieces like the West Bank, the mere fact that the gaza hasn't been picked apart by settler vultures alone is a reprieve from all the reports of Israel shelling yet another UN building that sent the IDF their coordinates
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Neurolimal posted:it's mostly the fact that they're super conservative without willing to negotiate, suicide bomb civilians, have no reason to exist, and there's cooler people in the territory to support You are loving stupid. I mean god drat dumb. First off, have you actually seen Hamas' terms? Thats not negotiation. Hamas is the poster child for militant groups who are unwilling to negotiate in order to restore peace. They have been long before ISIS even dreamed of existing. And when your loving charter states that you are dedicated to the destruction of Israel, you are not negotiating in good faith with Israel. Israel took over Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six day war. Here is a list of Hamas suicide attacks from 1989 through 2008. Keep in mind, Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Three years before the last on that list. Hamas won majority elected control over Arafat's Fatah in 06, and military wise defeated Fatah in 07. Reminder. Still carrying out suicide attacks in 08... ISIS doesn't exist to take over Iraq. Reminder, its capitol is in Ar-Raqqah, Syria. Its entire rise to a caliphate from an Iraqi Al-Qaeda cell to where it is today was because of the Syrian civil war. Oh and that part where they claim control religious authority over all Muslims across the world. ISIS wants control over the entire Muslim population. Thats not taking over Iraq and setting up a crazy fundie government. Its bigger than that. Neurolimal posted:tbh I'm surprised childish nihilstic milbabies aren't all up on hamas, considering they're poor as heck but still do a ton with practical insurgent methods, while israel is a nation of incompetent conscripts that get billions of dollars in tech toys but somehow manage to miss five dudes walking up to an outpost, opening the unlocked door, and shooting ten retards in broad daylight Ah yes. Practical insurgent methods. Like using civilian human shields. And storing their weapons/rocket systems in schools. And using school yards as launching sites. Practical, yea. It is, because when Israel takes them out faggots like you cry about the civilian casualties. Rather than, you know, the terrorists using schools as tactical locations. Incompetent? Israel's military is a lot of things. Incompetent isn't one of them. Reminder. At any point they think they have a green light from the international community they will have an espresso version of the 6 day war. In about 6 minutes they will annex a smoking crater that use to be Gaza. If you really want to argue this, then you aren't very bright. Their military capability is that good. Their military, competency wise is probably the best in the world. Their only limit is size. Milbabies? Try that one again. Preferably when you aren't mid gargle of hamas cum.
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Neurolimal posted:because they manage to exist and keep Gaza from getting separated into 50 pieces like the West Bank, the mere fact that the gaza hasn't been picked apart by settler vultures alone is a reprieve from all the reports of Israel shelling yet another UN building that sent the IDF their coordinates What has Hamas accomplished since except provoking the Israeli army to come back and smash the place up every two years. Except holding on to power and building a tunnel network that's getting smashed up at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaukryw5N0c BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Just maybe the reason Hamas is able to hold onto power in Gaza is because Israel doesn't want the land. It's an overpopulated, indefensible and economically unproductive shithole.
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quote:First off, have you actually seen Hamas' terms? Thats not negotiation. Hamas is the poster child for militant groups who are unwilling to negotiate in order to restore peace. They have been long before ISIS even dreamed of existing. And when your loving charter states that you are dedicated to the destruction of Israel, you are not negotiating in good faith with Israel. The majority of ceasefire demands revolve around an ending of the occupation of the Gaza strip, including the blockade which heavily restricts building materials, seeds, and assorted goods. There is no reason to not believe they would hold to a ceasefire that supplied this, as they have not been the ones to break long-term ceasefires quote:ISIS doesn't exist to take over Iraq. I'm glad I said take land from iraq, and not take iraq, then quote:Ah yes. Practical insurgent methods. Like using civilian human shields. No reliable evidence to suggest such, UN investigations of both Hamas and Israel forces suggest that the latter has done such, while little evidence was found that the former does such. Hamas has been found to use abandoned UNRWA school buildings (emphasis on abandoned) to house munitions, when these are discovered by UN forces either the UN or Hamas immediately remove them from the facility. quote:Incompetent? Israel's military is a lot of things. Incompetent isn't one of them. Reminder. At any point they think they have a green light from the international community they will have an espresso version of the 6 day war. In about 6 minutes they will annex a smoking crater that use to be Gaza. If you really want to argue this, then you aren't very bright. Their military capability is that I never said that they didn't have great missiles and other toys (which they tend to use on civilians more often that militants, if both the current conflict and the clash in 2006 are to be believed).
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Omi-Polari posted:What has Hamas accomplished since except provoking the Israeli army to come back and smash the place up every two years. manage smuggling tunnels, act as a police force during peacetime, uphold ceasefires until Israel breaks them
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Genocide Tendency posted:Their military, competency wise is probably the best in the world. Uhhhhh......no. They got their asses spanked by Hezbollah in '06. The myth of the invincible all powerful IDF is just that, a myth. They're good, and they're probably better than the majority of NATO (lol like that's saying much), but best in the world? Not even close. e: Genocide Tendency posted:Reminder. At any point they think they have a green light from the international community they will have an espresso version of the 6 day war. In about 6 minutes they will annex a smoking crater that use to be Gaza. If you really want to argue this, then you aren't very bright. You're basically describing the situation leading up to and during the '06 war, which...did not end well for them.
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iyaayas01 posted:Uhhhhh......no. What are you talking about?
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Okay, Hezbollah spanked Israel with some serious Iranian help. It's pretty commonly accepted (even among Israelis and the IDF) that they lost, or at least didn't win, the '06 war...and that the reasons for the loss weren't some bullshit "stabbed in the back by the muzzie sympathetic librul western media" or whatever but rather because the Israeli decision makers made some really poor decisions and that after a couple decades as a police force the IDF had forgotten how to fight a war (as evidenced by the fact that when Hezbollah started using higher intensity weapons like antitank missiles the IDF didn't know how the hell to handle it, tactically. Protip: just because the best tactic for beating browns in Gaza involves holing infantry up inside armor, when the other side starts shooting ATGMs at you and blowing up your tanks, probably time to change your tactics.) They even had a whole commission about it. iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Which kind of explains why Israel is still the lesser of the ME shitholes: they actually take failure to heart and try to do something about it as opposed to just shrugging it off and say inshallah. (Another one is that an ex-president can be charged with and sentenced for raping a female subordinate, which tells you three things about Israel to distinguish it from its neighbours: rape is a crime, a member of the political elite can be tried for it, and there is such a thing as an ex-president.) I've been somewhat interested in the relative failure of the '06 operation. One thing which keeps coming up is that the overwhelming success of 1967 led to a serious complacency syndrome which even the near-defeat of 1973 couldn't quite cure.
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Neurolimal posted:lol if you think any concessions to black people during the civil rights era came from the soul-touching words of MLK, and not the threat of violent resistance if peaceful resistance failed Hi, OP here. This is the Manishewitz Jewish Thunderdome: By Jewish Thunderbird. When it's the KFC Sporting Complex: By Type 2 Diabetes and Hypertension, we can get down to debating if the black wife beater and pretty word speaker in chief really did raise up the coloreds (The C in NAACP, so don't you loving get indignant with me you faggoty little D&D poo poo). Or if it was really a bunch of dudes dressed up like re-run refusing to get snuffed out in 'nam intimidating the cliff baby draft dodgers that managed to get outta Kent State alive. What I'm saying is, no Vietcong may have ever called Muhammad Ali's rear end a friend of the family, but I'll call anyone named Muhammad a mud until SJW faggots like you learn to pick up a rifle and get a revolution going instead of doing Jazz Hands in Zuccotti Park and sending muds money via Paypal. Jesus Christ I hope my brand of regressive conservatism takes hold, because there'll be hearings for you goddamn kids sending your buttcoins and tweets to the muds. When my people have our way, you'll be in the FEMA camps singing spirituals and harvesting blue tarps in the lower 9th ward. Until then? Suck start my loving well circumcised schmeckel, you loving muddy buddy.
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Obama Africanus posted:Hi, OP here. this is a good-rear end post
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Genocide Tendency posted:Incompetent? Israel's military is a lot of things. Incompetent isn't one of them. They've lost 60+ people against loving >>>>Hamas<<<<, the half-starved mongoloid baby of terrorist groups/insurgencies. Incompetent might be a too light of a word to describe the IDF of 2014. When they have to do anything that isn't carpet-bombing penned-up Palestinians or herding up those Palestinians to the pens in the first place they get their asses rightfully kicked. They have what, a ten-to-one superiority to Hamas in literally everything, be it numbers, technology and munitions they can use? IDF is the trust fund baby of the world's militaries, it has lot of cool toys and it's been led to believe its the hot poo poo all its life. Put in a combat situation that actually involves the enemy seeing you before you bomb the poo poo out of them and they become pathetic. I don't know why they went into Gaza in the first place, I guess they started believing their own propaganda about the TERROR TUNNELS. IDF's glorious history is a myth anyway. There hasn't been a single war where they didn't have superiority over their enemies in majority of the aspects. Kinda puts a dent on the whole David and Goliath thing, huh? Sjurygg posted:Which kind of explains why Israel is still the lesser of the ME shitholes: they actually take failure to heart and try to do something about it as opposed to just shrugging it off and say inshallah. ...which is why they've continued to build settlements for the last four decades despite the world telling them to cut it out, strangling any chance of a functioning Palestinian state ever existing and burying the two-state solution and the Jewish state with it. Israel is its own worst enemy when it comes to making the Jewish state a lasting enterprise instead of a historical footnote like apartheid South Africa. In couple of decades when U.S. has finally had enough of its poo poo and the rest of the world is finally free to act on their burning loathing against Israel...how do you think two-state solution is going to work when there are probably a million Jews in West Bank? (It's not going to work) How do you think the pure Jewish state is going to stay Jewish when over half of the people inside its borders aren't Jewish? (It's not going to stay Jewish) DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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unrelated to dilz but didn't you use to have a cool JJJ avatar or am I thinking of another dude with dark in the name
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Neurolimal posted:unrelated to dilz but didn't you use to have a cool JJJ avatar Yes but then I got autobanned for some weird reason that I'm not still sure of. Might have been using a wrong tag in a thread.
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DarkCrawler posted:How do you think the pure Jewish state is going to stay Jewish when over half of the people inside its borders aren't Jewish? My av covers the strategy nicely, when you tag team it with some covert sterilization programs and a dash of אַמביציע we can go pretty far.
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P.S. All Jewish history is a myth, including the holocaust and the IDF and Mossad. It's all a secret wrapped in a lie cloaked in a myth used by overbearing mothers and rabbi's to make us feel bad about our penises and how our cousin is doing so much better at Tufts medical school. Now go gently caress yourselves.
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DarkCrawler posted:They've lost 60+ people against loving >>>>Hamas<<<<, the half-starved mongoloid baby of terrorist groups/insurgencies. Incompetent might be a too light of a word to describe the IDF of 2014. When they have to do anything that isn't carpet-bombing penned-up Palestinians or herding up those Palestinians to the pens in the first place they get their asses rightfully kicked. They have what, a ten-to-one superiority to Hamas in literally everything, be it numbers, technology and munitions they can use? IDF is the trust fund baby of the world's militaries, it has lot of cool toys and it's been led to believe its the hot poo poo all its life. Put in a combat situation that actually involves the enemy seeing you before you bomb the poo poo out of them and they become pathetic. You have no understanding of ground warfare. You also have no understanding of the inherent disadvantage of having to fight against guerrilla tactics in an urban environment. And by the by, every military force has issues when they have to take action beyond carpet bombing or precision guided strikes. Boots on the ground equals bodies in caskets. Its not a difficult math problem. Or did you miss the entire OIF conflict. Or did you miss the entire OEF conflict. Or did you miss any time the US had to wade into a jungle. Israel is better at it than most. Losing 60 to Hamas in Gaza isn't incompetent. If they were losing 60 a day in Israeli cities then we could have this discussion.
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Genocide Tendency posted:Ah yes. Practical insurgent methods. Like using civilian human shields. And storing their weapons/rocket systems in schools. And using school yards as launching sites. Practical, yea. It is, because when Israel takes them out faggots like you cry about the civilian casualties. Rather than, you know, the terrorists using schools as tactical locations. So when you're done slurping up IDF cum, like gargling that poo poo down, you might consider that they also intimidate media, use human shields, and base themselves in populated areas, while crying about all three of their civilian casualties. In fact, the HQ is in tel aviv so that when hamas shoots at it with their more high end missiles and misses, they can bitch about the destruction of civilian buildings and casualties.
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Genocide Tendency posted:You have no understanding of ground warfare. You also have no understanding of the inherent disadvantage of having to fight against guerrilla tactics in an urban environment. No, I do have understanding of ground warfare. Other armies have performed far better against far more difficult opponents then Hamas in ground warfare, including United States in OIF/OEF (U.S. civilian casualties have nothing to IDF in proportion or the enemy/civilian death rate, even less on US soldier/militant death rate). IDF's tactic is to send in hastily called reservists who panic as soon as they even hear gunfire and mortar rounds and end up leveling schools and hospitals because there might be a Hamas guy somewhere in the vicinity. I did actually miss the times U.S. had to wade into a jungle, I wasn't alive then. But if you're referring to Vietnam, I really don't think United States performed really well in that war, I don't think I'm alone in that thought. Here, why don't you enlighten yourself to what IDF is in modern days. An army that has perfected its one-sided tactics with the Palestinians, has penned them in perfect little walled enclaves and is utterly incapable of fighting conventional wars or executing operations where they have to put boots on the ground without it being a massive goddamn debacle. Put that together with huge loving mythos that they have themselves bought, a reservist army which has no idea of true warfare nor has prepared for it and they are always for a rude awakening when somebody actually shoots back. http://carl.army.mil/download/csipubs/matthewsOP26.pdf quote:"Evidently they had never heard that an Arab soldier is supposed to run away after a short engagement with the Israelis." Hamas has been penned in since 2006 and been subjected to a blockade that forces them to use pretty much the shittiest weaponry and tactics available (Qassam rocket, lol). IDF's bombings and assassinations as well as combat operations post-Second Intifada has wiped out its core of trained fighters and experienced commanders. The bombardment prior-IDF going in demolished any communications infrastructure they were able to build up after their last communications infrastructure was wiped out. By all accounts Hamas leadership is hiding in bunkers somewhere incapable of any sort of coordinated resistance to IDF, and it has been individual armed collections of militants (who aren't even Hamas on few occasions) fighting on their own initiative. The fact that against all that IDF has killed 191 militants with loss of 64 is no less then goddamn sad showing for IDF. Even in 2006 the rate was at least four dead militants per dead IDF soldiers, here it's less then three. That's terrible by Israeli standards. Obama Africanus posted:My av covers the strategy nicely, when you tag team it with some covert sterilization programs and a dash of אַמביציע we can go pretty far. Yet Palestinian population grows massively year by year. Too bad for Jews they're not really all that good in this whole genocide/ethnic cleansing thing if you look at the numbers. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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DarkCrawler posted:Yet Palestinian population grows massively year by year. Too bad for Jews they're not really all that good in this whole genocide/ethnic cleansing thing if you look at the numbers. Fyi you'll get no argument from me that the IDF is a poo poo show. Any fellow heb in this country can tell you about their half retarded downs baby cousin who's a machine gunner in the IDF as well as perpetual pants shitter. But that's mostly limited to their Army, which we do a pretty good job of steering them away from truly developing an expeditionary Army, as evidenced by their current structure. But lets discuss my peoples ability to commit genocide, or rather you're lack of belief in it. When it comes down to it, we were the only survivors of the original genocide, and you'll note that Noah wasn't trying to get everyone else on the big rear end boat with him either. We've been loving up muds since time immemorial, apocryphally and systematically in recent years. That poo poo show of retarded jewish kids in ill fitting uniforms getting murked by Hamas? Jewish. Cliff. Babies. Quelling. Mud. Cliff. Babies. The real uberjuden's don't wear uniforms, and don't waste their time on Hamas. I'd flesh this out further, but what I'm gonna do instead is take off my pants, pack a bowl, and turn on Munich on Blu-Ray. I'm going to be erect long enough to really need to call my physician (Who's also a GiPper, I might add) while I watch Eric Bana just poo poo all over international law and schwack muds. Then I'll comfortably weed nap to the serene peace of knowing my people actually do control this world, and that the Elder Protocols of Zion weren't anti-semetic, they were the highest form of compliment we could receive from you unclean, uncut, gentiles.
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Pound for pound Jews are by far the best people in the world, no contest. I think it's because all the poor, less educated and retarded ultra-nationalistic Jews have been conveniently collected into one territory where they are free to inflict their idiocy on people even worse off. I mean, it's not exactly a coincidence that the majority of the world's Jews want to stay right where they are instead of moving into a shithole like Israel. As a Finn I wish there was some little TRUE Finland in the middle of Russia where we originally came from and where all the dumb Finns go by their own volition to do dumb poo poo. And occasionally get bombed because of their dumb poo poo. This place would be much better. (I mean it's not bad now but there is always room for improvement) DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Aug 4, 2014 |
# ? Aug 4, 2014 13:09 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:37 |
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The finns aren't a people to gently caress with though. I mean, you might be a cliff baby- I dunno, but your gramps was probably a bad motherfucker.
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# ? Aug 4, 2014 13:32 |