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Best Marvel movie by far, no question about it. Best I have seen in a long while. That was so fun.
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What I love about Gunn is how excited he is to be doing these movies. Sometimes creative directors are hamstrung in these situations, see Wright and Ant Man, but he's clearly happy with it. After this opening weekend he should be able to make the exact sequel he wants as well.
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Aug 4, 2014 23:43
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SunshineDanceParty posted:After this opening weekend he should be able to make the exact sequel he wants as well. Ask Jon Favreau about that.
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Aug 4, 2014 23:45
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morestuff posted:Ask Jon Favreau about that. Yeah, really.
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Aug 4, 2014 23:50
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morestuff posted:Ask Jon Favreau about that. I was going to say, "I think they learned their lesson after that debacle..." But then I remembered Edgar Wright... RIP James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy...
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Aug 4, 2014 23:52
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Funniest joke based on the two audiences I was in was Groot's grin after eviscerating those reinforcements. CelticPredator posted:He adapted pretty well to the PG-13 though. I didn't feel like for a second he was being held back. He snuck into some gross rear end jokes in this movie too, I mean, that Jackson Pollack joke was pretty blatant. Having to know what a blacklight is/does, inferring why someone would use it, and knowing what a Pollock looks like should probably have sent that joke flying over the heads of anyone under 13 anyway.
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Aug 4, 2014 23:53
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Here's another version of Thanos from another forum that I thought was pretty neat:
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Aug 4, 2014 23:54
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Shageletic posted:Here's another version of Thanos from another forum that I thought was pretty neat: How does this dude shower and piss and what not?
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Aug 4, 2014 23:56
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morestuff posted:Ask Jon Favreau about that. Yeah, if anything Guardians 2 is basically guaranteed to be full of dumb Thanos crossover bullshit.
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Aug 4, 2014 23:56
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Hopefully Gunn and Marvel use Favreau/Iron Man 2 as a cautionary tale and work together to include that stuff in early drafts.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:03
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I saw this movie on the opening day with friends. I liked it and I'd recommend it. But between this movie and Captain America 2, there's this certain numbing effect from seeing these franchise movies, even though I know while watching them they are Actually Good Franchise Films. Despite being the first major superhero film that's explicitly about the heroic assholes of space, in its own odd way (despite talking raccoons and dancing trees) it feels like it fulfills what's demanded from a space opera these days without "elevating" it, for lack of a better word. We get... - A Han Solo-esque protagonist that's not stiff. - A crew of characters none of which fulfills the boring lawful good morality. - A textured location that (of course) acts as the hive of scum and villainy. - An eccentric morally dubious third party character (The Collector) that bolsters the whole "What a weird, interesting place this galaxy is". - Character-driven humor that worked in The Avengers and continues to work here. - 80s stuff It manages to hit all the check marks. It's a satisfying experience. It avoids a lot of the bullshit you'd expect like shoehorning a threat to earth. It doesn't come off as sloppy, unfocused patchwork (unlike every Kurtzman/Orci flick). Even though it's about the underbelly of space, in its own odd way, the movie's a polished space adventure. Yet at the same time, I feel that there's no new sensation it delivered on. As different the movie was to every other superhero or space sci-fi production, I never felt like "This is the movie that I didn't know I wanted." Just "This is a movie that fulfilled my moderately high expectations and thank god it avoids most stupid team origin tropes." I don't want to come off as too negative; like I said it's a good movie. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Aug 5, 2014 00:04
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I kinda get what you're saying, but at the same time I can't remember the last movie that actually succeed at all that without making GBS threads itself.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:10
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Makes sense to me. Seeing this and Lucy on consecutive days was a nice contrast.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:10
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Lobok posted:
It goes without saying. But it's still a pretty filthy joke. VV my point wasn't about kids, it was just that Gunn didn't really hold back and they got away with some pretty crude Gunn-ian humor. Just a bit toned down. CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Aug 5, 2014 00:14
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CelticPredator posted:It goes without saying. But it's still a pretty filthy joke. My 6 year old didn't flinch or notice that joke. When the hero referred to the villain as a "turd-blossom" however, well, it's just a part of her vocabulary now.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:16
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Tuxedo Jack posted:My 6 year old didn't flinch or notice that joke. Can't you just hear Yondu calling someone that in front of toddler Quill, and he just toddles around saying it over and over?  turd-blossom!  "Well, poo poo."
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Aug 5, 2014 00:20
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sean10mm posted:Can't you just year Yondu call someone that in front of toddler Quill and he just toddles around saying it over and over? Last night she was playing with some of her Frozen dolls in her Tangled tower, and among the normal 6-year old girl banter between the dolls, there was also a distinct "Attention, Idiots!" which made me laugh for like 45 minutes. Edit: which reminds me. One of the reasons I like Guardians so much, is its the first comic book movie that appealed to my daughter. She loved it. She has never shown any interest in Iron Man or Spider-Man or the Avengers for family movie night. But when I showed her this trailer, she immediately latched onto Rocket and wanted to see it. CelticPredator posted:my point wasn't about kids, it was just that Gunn didn't really hold back and they got away with some pretty crude Gunn-ian humor. Just a bit toned down. Fair point. I'm not very familiar with his work prior to Guardians, though today I saw on i09 a "PG Porn" he made a few years back... So, I guess if he has a style, I'm still not entirely familiar with it. Tuxedo Jack fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Aug 5, 2014 00:23
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I forgot how awesome that "attention idiots" line was. So so good
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Aug 5, 2014 00:30
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One of my favorite bits in the movie is Yondu's arrow thing. Everyone in the movie knows that its serious poo poo but the audience doesnt understand until the very end, and the payoff is amazing.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:31
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I have to say one the things I liked the most out of a movie filled with Good Stuff is Rocket. Specifically, how they distinctly avoided going the lazy route of just making him a wisecracking cartoon critter. From the core of the voice acting and animation to the script direction everything just makes him multidimensional. Long rambling poo poo about Rocket: Everyone notices the drunken bar-pathos, of course. Its really good, and the facial animation and voice acting sell the script lines beautifully. Some of the less obvious points are just as important - the hallway scene where he adjusts his junk is hilarious, sure, but it also says 'I am a real character, not a computer Ken doll' and it ties into an earlier scene in the Kyln where Quill and he are both deloused with orange gunk. Quill gets to keep his shorts, and his dignity, but Rocket is left in the fur, as it were and he holds his towel in front of him sheepishly, that same vulnerability from his 'vermin' speech previewed. Rocket makes big actions and makes big guns because he hides behind all that bluster, and subtly rounding his character out in those vulnerable moments makes a big difference into making him an actual character. Also he had about my favorite line in the Kyln when Quill was getting fondled by the Fillion-Cameo. "This guys is my bitch and you'll go through me to get him!" I found it funny, I'm sorry.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:46
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Yaws posted:It's too bad Gunns humor had to be blunted by the PG-13 rating. His other work,Tromeo and Juilet in particular, was pretty dark and kinda gross. I feel like constraints on that kind of humor make it way better.
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mango sentinel posted:I feel like constraints on that kind of humor make it way better. For proof if this look at classic Ren & Stimpy compared to the more recent revival.
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Aug 5, 2014 00:49
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So given the ending, is the Nova Corps going to use the infinity gem to create and power the Green Lantern style Corps from the comics?
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Aug 5, 2014 01:19
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I figured that Thanos already has a couple. Anyway, I never read the Howard the Duck comics. Is there any chance in hell that could be made into a good movie? I'm watching the original and as bad as it is I get the impression the source material must have had some potential. Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Aug 5, 2014 01:30
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This movie didn't really work for me. I think that how well it works for a given person depends heavily on the humor, and I just didn't think it was as funny as a lot of others did. If you take out the humor all that's really left is a fairly straightforward scifi adventure centered around a macguffin and a boring badguy running from one cgi environment to the next. I was pleasantly surprised when the opening scene was emotional and human, and I thought that this would be carried through the main character's arc, but it wasn't at all. We got a nice little bookend scene that would have paid off a lot better if his orphan status was really a part of his character and informed his actions in some meaningful way. As for the action scenes, they had some neat conceptual potential but were not filmed in an interesting way and ended up being pretty conventional. Overall I'd characterize this film as decent (no glaring deficiencies) but one of missed opportunities. Without outstanding performances to smooth some of the rough edges, it turned out kinda mediocre (I was actually surprised how much I enjoyed Dave Bautista as Drax, though). Oh yeah and the score sucked. Very workmanlike and boring.
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Aug 5, 2014 01:39
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Colonel Whitey posted:Oh yeah and the score sucked. Very workmanlike and boring. Who cares about the score with that soundtrack There was a score? I guarantee most people didn't even notice
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Aug 5, 2014 01:56
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rawillkill posted:Who cares about the score with that soundtrack That's a great point, why didn't Gunn just go full Tarantino and use all needle-drops? Why have a score at all? If you're going to have a score, it should be good, just like any other element of the film.
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Aug 5, 2014 02:02
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Complaining about cgi environments is interesting since they apparently filmed on huge fuckoff sets for the most part (outside the obvious flying around parts.)
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Aug 5, 2014 02:13
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I figured that Thanos already has a couple. I don't think there's any plans for a movie. It's just an (not so?) obscure reference
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Aug 5, 2014 02:14
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Colonel Whitey posted:
"Sucked" seems mutually exclusive to "workmanlike."
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Aug 5, 2014 02:15
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Madurai posted:"Sucked" seems mutually exclusive to "workmanlike." I agree with him that the score is competently produced, but it's completely generic and boring. I'm so tired of blockbuster films using generic orchestral scores; they're never engaging or interesting and it's pretty clear that they're only used because that's what film scores are "supposed" to sound like.
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Aug 5, 2014 02:19
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MH Knights posted:Someone did make an avatar sized version in the comic book movie thread if I remember right. Ugh...looks like that thread is just 50 pages of non-stop bitching about Avengers, but I will take your word for it and keep slogging through, thanks for the tip.
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Aug 5, 2014 02:22
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Eh, I loved the score. Really great main theme. I love them main themes.
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Aug 5, 2014 02:26
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sean10mm posted:Complaining about cgi environments is interesting since they apparently filmed on huge fuckoff sets for the most part (outside the obvious flying around parts.) It speaks to a problem in the way it's shot and the set design if you can't tell if it's a physical location or a greenscreen. I was really unimpressed with the visual work on this film. It's better than Avengers but not by a ton. And so much of the film was CGI spaceships flying around that I don't think it's off-base to say they went from one CGI environment to the next, even with the presence of a few sets.
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Madurai posted:"Sucked" seems mutually exclusive to "workmanlike." Ok, allow me to revise the statement to say "it really sucked that the score was so workmanlike."
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Aug 5, 2014 02:27
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The best way to endure generic Hollywood orchestra swells is to remember Jason Segel's sadface keyboarding from Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I end up laughing so often at horribly inappropriate times.
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Aug 5, 2014 02:33
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Crappy Jack posted:And we also see him saying goodbye to her and leaving her on the planet when Rocket is checking him out through the scope. So if Quill DID pick up an Earth chick (who just happens to have pink skin), then he also totally ditched her on an alien planet.  , although I think his line and scene at the end would negate that possibility. I forget if he said something like "you saved my wife and daughter" (both shown in last scene) or "my family" which would leave it open. Thwomp posted:Also, Groot's abilities are never given appropriate limits. He's growing and re-growing himself so often that I didn't understand that he was under threat at the end. Yeah, Rocket's freaking out but nothing up to that point established that Groot wouldn't be okay if he attempted something like that. And then it's all okay because "oh yeah, let me just replant him. It's all fine."  Lobok posted:Having to know what a blacklight is/does, inferring why someone would use it, and knowing what a Pollock looks like should probably have sent that joke flying over the heads of anyone under 13 anyway.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:How does this dude shower and piss and what not? It's got a zipper in the back.
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Colonel Whitey posted:It speaks to a problem in the way it's shot and the set design if you can't tell if it's a physical location or a greenscreen. If I can't tell if it is CGI or a set, then that not a problem but an amazing feat of technical and artistic achievement. The seamless combination was one of my favorite parts of the movie.
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Colonel Whitey posted:I was really unimpressed with the visual work on this film. It's better than Avengers but not by a ton. I think we're past "difference of opinion" and straight to "cataract diagnosis" here, Jesus Christ.
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