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rich thick and creamy
May 23, 2005

To whip it, Whip it good
Pillbug

Boris Galerkin posted:

Who was the girl at the end by the school with the kids by the way? A flashback of younger Nora?


It was revealed that Nora's husband was having an affair with the kids' preschool teacher. I assume the redhead was the homewrecker in question.

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General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
I don't know how anyone could watch that opening scene with the hooker, the gun, and the Slayer and think it's not meant to be at least a little bit funny.

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.

I hope they don't kill Holy Wayne because holy poo poo, he stole the episode with that scene. And given how good Nora is, that's pretty impressive.

AgentHaiTo
Feb 7, 2003

Well, isn't this a coincidence? So, um, how you doing? You're busy, I know and I don't want to distract you, please, don't let me interrupt you.

JayMax posted:

And Jesus said to the blind man, "Do you have a Paypal account?"

All I could think of in that scene was, do not enter your username and password into some strange person's laptop. Tell them to email you a payment link then use your phone to pay for it. She is going to get back home and have her paypal account drain her banking account, then have to go thru paypal dispute.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Seeing PayPal by name made made me wonder who the hell thinks product placement in this show is a good use of advertising money.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Frackie Robinson posted:

Seeing PayPal by name made made me wonder who the hell thinks product placement in this show is a good use of advertising money.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't sponsored. Paypal's drat near generic at this point. Dean's truck, on the other hand...

IMB
Jan 8, 2005
How does an asshole like Bob get such a great kitchen?
I'm getting such a strong Carnivale vibe from this show, and I like it.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Was John from Cincinnati any good?

IMB
Jan 8, 2005
How does an asshole like Bob get such a great kitchen?

Frackie Robinson posted:

Was John from Cincinnati any good?

Not really. I enjoyed it under the premise that all the weird poo poo would eventually come to a conclusion. And when it was canceled it was like, poo poo, I really did waste all that time.

I do still say "Mitch Yost needs to get back in the game," from time to time though.

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

Frackie Robinson posted:

Was John from Cincinnati any good?

Yes if you like David Milch dialogue, which you should.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
That episode was fantastic. Do they have any more likable characters they can go into?

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006

Ersatz posted:

Wayne has an apparently perfect track record of getting people from incredible pain to lastingly OK in the space of a few minutes, through nothing more than hugs and some clever and empathetic words.

This is quite the stretch. We only know of 2-3 people who Wayne helps, two of those only superficially. He gives them an emotional release, but we don't know if the effects are permanent.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

AgentHaiTo posted:

All I could think of in that scene was, do not enter your username and password into some strange person's laptop. Tell them to email you a payment link then use your phone to pay for it. She is going to get back home and have her paypal account drain her banking account, then have to go thru paypal dispute.

That would have definitely made the scene better, yes.

Nora just gave a call girl 3k to shoot her in the chest I think it's safe to say she has a lot of DI or just savings that she no longer needs/gives a poo poo about since her entire family vanished.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
She's got money from the departure fund or whatever. That's why Matt asked her for money for his church.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

IMB posted:

Not really. I enjoyed it under the premise that all the weird poo poo would eventually come to a conclusion. And when it was canceled it was like, poo poo, I really did waste all that time.

I do still say "Mitch Yost needs to get back in the game," from time to time though.

Sometimes the phrase "Dumping out" crosses my mind.

WHAT WAS THE DEAL WITH THAT loving PRISON?

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005

Pedro De Heredia posted:

This is quite the stretch. We only know of 2-3 people who Wayne helps, two of those only superficially. He gives them an emotional release, but we don't know if the effects are permanent.
if we were discussing reality, yes it would be a stretch, but everything we've seen in the show supports what I said, with no evidence to the contrary. And, in reality, a simpIe "emotional release" does not result in the kind of radical change that we just saw in Nora.

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006

Ersatz posted:

if we were discussing reality, yes it would be a stretch, but everything we've seen in the show supports what I said, with no evidence to the contrary. And, in reality, a simpIe "emotional release" does not result in the kind of radical change that we just saw in Nora.

The evidence to the contrary is that this is the sixth episode of a television show, this is the first episode focused on this character, and this is one of the few important characters in the show. It would be utterly absurd from a storytelling standpoint if she were actually 'lastingly ok' now. That would be like if Jack got over his dad issues in episode 2 of Lost.

What we saw was a woman who's been falling apart over a period of three years and hit bottom. Now that she has, and now that Wayne made her confront some of her fears, she can make the first tentative steps towards change. The radical change we've seen is that she's not buying groceries for her disappeared children and stalking her husband's lover, which is like, the bare minimum of 'trying to be a normal person'.

This is basic storytelling here. They are using the unreal premise of '2% of the population disappears' to deal with the very real issue of loss. If you're going to introduce an unreal character who can remove that loss from you with a hug, why even have people grieving?

Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Aug 5, 2014

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005

Pedro De Heredia posted:

The evidence to the contrary is that this is the sixth episode of a television show, this is the first episode focused on this character, and this is one of the few important characters in the show. It would be utterly absurd from a storytelling standpoint if she were actually 'lastingly ok' now. That would be like if Jack got over his dad issues in episode 2 of Lost.

What we saw was a woman who's been falling apart over a period of three years and hit bottom. Now that she has, and now that Wayne made her confront some of her fears, she can make the first tentative steps towards change. The radical change we've seen is that she's not buying groceries for her disappeared children and stalking her husband's lover, which is like, the bare minimum of 'trying to be a normal person'.

This is basic storytelling here. They are using the unreal premise of '2% of the population disappears' to deal with the very real issue of loss. If you're going to introduce an unreal character who can remove that loss from you with a hug, why even have people grieving?
If you're going to introduce an unreal character who can make the lame walk and the blind see, why even have people suffering?

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

Pedro De Heredia posted:

The radical change we've seen is that she's not buying groceries for her disappeared children and stalking her husband's lover, which is like, the bare minimum of 'trying to be a normal person'.


There's also her getting a 'no' answer to question 121 for the first time. Wayne defintiely changed her quite a bit, and this is definitley meant to get the audience thinking that he might possibly not be a fraud.

Regardless, his performance at the end there really showed you why all these people would gravitate towards him and join his cult. Still something that's totally missing from the Guilty Remnant, who've played a much larger role. They're just so comically antagonistic.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Junkenstein posted:

There's also her getting a 'no' answer to question 121 for the first time. Wayne defintiely changed her quite a bit, and this is definitley meant to get the audience thinking that he might possibly not be a fraud.

Regardless, his performance at the end there really showed you why all these people would gravitate towards him and join his cult. Still something that's totally missing from the Guilty Remnant, who've played a much larger role. They're just so comically antagonistic.



What, you don't want to join?

The GR are the dumbest thing I've seen on TV in a while. That's including Revolution.

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006

Junkenstein posted:

There's also her getting a 'no' answer to question 121 for the first time. Wayne defintiely changed her quite a bit, and this is definitley meant to get the audience thinking that he might possibly not be a fraud.

Regardless, his performance at the end there really showed you why all these people would gravitate towards him and join his cult. Still something that's totally missing from the Guilty Remnant, who've played a much larger role. They're just so comically antagonistic.

Like I said, he's not a fraud in the way that the Guilty Remnant aren't frauds. Antagonistic or not, they do seem to give something to people. But it's a very different thing, for different people.

Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Aug 5, 2014

lifts cats over head
Jan 17, 2003

Antagonist: A bad man who drops things from the windows.
I really liked this episode. One of my favorite aspects was seeing how the business and legal world responded to the departure. For instance how her divorce with the departed will remain legally bound should they return.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


I think Nora was getting all yeses to 121 because she needed to hear 'yes'. She was asking the question with an obvious affectation. After her session with Wayne, she was able to ask the question with no subtext.

warcrimes
Jul 6, 2013

I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life. :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:

lifts cats over head posted:

I really liked this episode. One of my favorite aspects was seeing how the business and legal world responded to the departure. For instance how her divorce with the departed will remain legally bound should they return.

Which I think is dumb, there'd be provisions provided to void the divorce for a variety of common sense reasons.

I loved this ep, though, watching it again. Where the gently caress has Carrie Coon been before this show?

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?

warcrimes posted:

Which I think is dumb, there'd be provisions provided to void the divorce for a variety of common sense reasons.

I loved this ep, though, watching it again. Where the gently caress has Carrie Coon been before this show?

Not sure but she's got a supporting role in David Fincher's next movie (Gone Girl) so there's another reason to be excited for it!

This was my favourite episode of the entire series so far. The second-best was obviously the Matt episode, so clearly this show is better when it focuses on one character's story. Not that I would necessarily want the whole show to work like that. I'd like an Aimee-centred episode, actually. A character of her archetype could easily be very one-not and dull but the writing is good enough, and Meade is a strong enough actress, to overcome that.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

The second-best was obviously the Matt episode, so clearly this show is better when it focuses on one character's story.

The one-character-centric episodes have also been the ones to really get stuck-in to the actual premise of the show too, so that helps.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I really liked this episode.

But I have a question about the last episode, where Garvey didn't get his shirts from the dry-cleaners.

I'm in Denmark, so I watched it with subtitles and when he first asked for his shirts without his ticket, the guy behind the counter turned to the guy in the back and said something in Indian that was subtitled in Danish: "Hey, pretend I'm telling you to look for this guys shirts".

It seems like you Americans didn't get that dialouge subtitled, based on the reaction to him threatening the guy to hand over the shirts?

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
I usually watch with CC on and I don't recall seeing any subtitle or captioning during that specific part. I'd have to go back and rewatch the scene because a lot of things on this show are (deliberately) filmed/come-off ambiguously but my take on it was basically exactly what you got written down as a subtitle.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I really like the little piano score in this show. I know the mysteries aren't flying fast and loose like they did in LOST, but whenever that music starts my interest is piqued.

SuperSpiff
Apr 4, 2007
Mentally retardation is such a strong word.

homo punching bag posted:

I really like the little piano score in this show. I know the mysteries aren't flying fast and loose like they did in LOST, but whenever that music starts my interest is piqued.

The piece is The Twins by Max Richter and it's awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twsVXLyLYsY

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

SuperSpiff posted:

The piece is The Twins by Max Richter and it's awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twsVXLyLYsY

Are you sure about this? It certainly seems to be in the same vein but the one I'm talking about sounds more like the music from the show opening. A lot slower. This never quite gets there.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE
Mar 31, 2010


It sounds like an offshoot of the song that was linked but it is the same artist.

Tomahawk
Aug 13, 2003

HE KNOWS
You're probably looking for November by Max Richter

Richman777
Jan 20, 2004

Porn Santa
He also has a song called "November" that is super similar.

Siid
Oct 18, 2012


homo punching bag posted:

Are you sure about this? It certainly seems to be in the same vein but the one I'm talking about sounds more like the music from the show opening. A lot slower. This never quite gets there.

Evidently this exists http://www.tunefind.com/show/the-leftovers/season-1 So you can see if what you're thinking of is there.

Going by that link, maybe this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zysmTUKMbUI

Siid fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 6, 2014

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

SuperSpiff posted:

The piece is The Twins by Max Richter and it's awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twsVXLyLYsY

Weird, this one is also called Twins by max Richter, but it's the one I was talking about :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQyYX-zf_Y

Maybe (Prague) is a remix or something?

Leb
Jan 15, 2004


Change came to America on November the 4th, 2008, in the form of an unassuming Senator from the state of Illinois.

homo punching bag posted:

Weird, this one is also called Twins by max Richter, but it's the one I was talking about :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQyYX-zf_Y

Maybe (Prague) is a remix or something?

That's still not quite the same version and to date, I haven't been able to find a proper recording of the theme as heard on the show. Fortunately, it's just a simple series of of arpeggiated chords and an extremely simple melody (well, and some additional chords that I think would require a second set of hands, but you can improvise around that), so if you happen to play yourself, it's pretty easy to just play it by ear.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

Do you like superheroes? Check out my CYOA Mutants: Uprising

How about weird historical fiction? Try Vampires of the Caribbean

Leb posted:

That's still not quite the same version and to date, I haven't been able to find a proper recording of the theme as heard on the show. Fortunately, it's just a simple series of of arpeggiated chords and an extremely simple melody (well, and some additional chords that I think would require a second set of hands, but you can improvise around that), so if you happen to play yourself, it's pretty easy to just play it by ear.

Maybe it's this one: http://open.spotify.com/track/1gVXTJVSekOTCH8hhibcqi Vladimir's Blues

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

homo punching bag posted:

I really like the little piano score in this show.

Yeah, agreed, it gets stuck in my head after every episode


This one is really pretty as well and different from the above.

(The theme is great too.)

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Aug 7, 2014

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Max
Nov 30, 2002

I like to think of the GR as really aggressive Buddhists.

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