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alpha_destroy posted:Okay fine; who real, not a conniving rear end in a top hat, and in Shu?
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re: Ma Dai Ma Dai was a rather minor character in history, sadly. Whether or not this is due to Shu's notoriously sloppy record keeping is open to debate. Anyway, he inherited his cousin's command and titles and was treated well by Liu Bei. He is only recorded as being present for Zhuge Liang's final campaign, the Wuzhang Plains battle. Basically, Zhuge Liang died, and apparently left instructions to his buddy Yang Yi, who was a notorious dickhole. This final commanded instructed the Shu army to withdraw, and to kill Wei Yan if he attempted to continue the campaign. As Wei Yan was the second highest ranking general present after Zhuge himself, the law stated he'd inherit command of army in the event of the commander's death. Yang Yi conspired with Jiang Wei and others and began retreating without Wei Yan's consent. Wei Yan gathered his men and tried to work out what was going on, but was attacked and driven off. Wei Yan went to burn the plank bridges that connected Hanzhong to the northern plains to prevent the Shu army retreating. (He presumed he had a massive mutiny on his hands) Yang Yi sent Ma Dai with an army to kill Wei Yan, which he did. And that's it for Ma Dai! re: Shudouches Liu Shan wasn't much of a dick, just VERY hands off and relied on regents and ministers to run the country for him. He at least had sense to surrender when he did, when someone like Jiang Wei would have fought to the end and bled Shu dry. Pang Tong seemed like a decent person and skilled commander, but a pretty awful civil servant. Wei Yan was Shu's best general and quite a well liked soldier, but Zhuge Liang held a grudge against him and ensured that despite his very high rank never got to command the army and never listened to his plans to fight Wei. Zhao Yun was noted to be honourable and a man of integrity. He just...didn't do much. Shu had plenty of good hearted, honourable and just men working for it. It's just most of them aren't playable in Dynasty Warriors. The likes of Wang Ping, Liao Hua, Li Yan, Zhang Yi, Jiang Wan, Zhang Ni, Fei Yi, Jian Yong, Sun Qian, Ma Zhong and probably a whole bunch others were all talented in their own rights and generally had very good character compared to some more famous figures historically.
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Aug 4, 2014 17:19
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Samurai Sanders posted:Are you suggesting that Guan Yu DIDN'T have an anime schoolgirl daughter? gently caress, you got me there. How popular is Yinping? This reminds me of my biggest gripe with DW 8. Where are Xing Cai's loving pants?
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Aug 4, 2014 17:22
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Samurai Sanders posted:That's one issue but the bigger one is it just sometimes ignoring my inputs for musou attacks, which is gonna get me killed at higher difficulty levels. Also sometimes the block button gets stuck down, so to speak. I've never run into (software) problems like this in a game before. I periodically have a 'ignoring input' issue on the PSVita DW8C. Musou, attacks, get on the loving horse, get blocking... sometimes the buttons just do nothing for a bit. It's been better since the recent patch, but I guess I just accepted it for the most part, despite how annoying it is. I wonder if it has any relation to the 360 controller issue.
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alpha_destroy posted:How popular is Yinping? This reminds me of my biggest gripe with DW 8. Where are Xing Cai's loving pants? Yinping is #1 waifu and #3 sibling according to the (pre-XL) popularity poll. If the Koei wiki isn't lying, the tabs go sibling, friend, boss, boyfriend, girlfriend. All Xingcai had to do was connect the front and the back together but no, it's fluttering rear end flap whenever I'm riding a horse. EDIT: Oh, here's the post-XL overall poll. Yinping is pretty popular. Gimnbo fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 4, 2014 |
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Aug 4, 2014 17:37
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5er posted:I periodically have a 'ignoring input' issue on the PSVita DW8C. Musou, attacks, get on the loving horse, get blocking... sometimes the buttons just do nothing for a bit. It's been better since the recent patch, but I guess I just accepted it for the most part, despite how annoying it is. I wonder if it has any relation to the 360 controller issue.
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Aug 4, 2014 17:40
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Xingcai gets panty shots even when wandering around camp! It's strange as in previous games she dressed somewhat sensibly, it's like she could only afford upper body armour. And yeah Yinping is obscenely popular with the Japanese fanbase in particular. I think she might have even overtaken Yuanji in terms of popularity.
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alpha_destroy posted:Okay fine; who real, not a conniving rear end in a top hat, and in Shu? On this note, did they replace Sima Yi's jp voice actor in 8xl or did he just not have any new lines?
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straight jerkers posted:On this note, did they replace Sima Yi's jp voice actor in 8xl or did he just not have any new lines? They didn't replace him for 8XL so he doesn't get any new dialogue. He's got a new VA for Empires, the same guy who does Sima Shi.
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Aug 4, 2014 17:46
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...Are we talking the old one, who died, or the replacement?
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So I took a break from this thread and came back 800 posts later, expecting it to be entirely about Hyrule Warriors. You guys have done me proud by still talking about Rt3K.
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Gimnbo posted:Yinping is #1 waifu and #3 sibling according to the (pre-XL) popularity poll. If the Koei wiki isn't lying, the tabs go sibling, friend, boss, boyfriend, girlfriend. No Lu Bu? Bullshit. Am I the only person that grinds out skirmish entirely on horseback? I find it really seriously saves time
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Aug 4, 2014 19:05
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Wait so since we're still kinda on DW8-PC, does the game finally support online co-op or am I still SOL there?
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Aug 4, 2014 19:14
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it doesn't and i don't think it ever will. it's not even in the dlc list
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Aug 4, 2014 19:17
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BobFromMarketing posted:No Lu Bu? Bullshit. Lu Bu's powerful of course, but a lot of people match him and are actually nice personalities. 'Guan Longstocking' one of them, thanks to her self-buff.
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Bloodly posted:Lu Bu's powerful of course, but a lot of people match him and are actually nice personalities. 'Guan Longstocking' one of them, thanks to her self-buff. I'm killing thousands of people not taking him out on a date. Personality isn't really a factor for me. Also his muosuw is so good for room clearing. And something about his face grab and smash is just so satisfying
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Aug 4, 2014 20:07
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Well it's favorite character overall, not just gameplay. Lu Bu being a gigantic brutish rear end in a top hat is a negative factor for some it seems (he's at 21st in the overall poll). I mean Sima Yi is also a gigantic rear end in a top hat in the game but he has the laugh everyone loves and is more or less the overall "winner" of the era. Zhong Hui has an ego so big it can hold swords up but he's also a stereotypical anime prettyboy. Has there ever been a poll for western audiences? I'd imagine Lu Bu would be pretty high up there and that Xiahou Dun would beat Zhao Yun.
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Hey, Brony Hunter, do you know enough about Japanese history to do a compare-and-contrast of Cao Cao and Nobunaga, both in their lives and in their legacies? It seems like they've been treated similarly by history and fiction, but I could be wrong.
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FredMSloniker posted:Hey, Brony Hunter, do you know enough about Japanese history to do a compare-and-contrast of Cao Cao and Nobunaga, both in their lives and in their legacies? It seems like they've been treated similarly by history and fiction, but I could be wrong. No, sorry. I know stuff about the Sengoku era, but sadly not enough to make a fair judgement. Like with the Three Kingdoms, there is a lot of confusion over facts and fiction and with my fairly limited knowledge it's not a call I can make.
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wow oops I like dynasty warriors dirty nub fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Aug 5, 2014 01:18
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Wrong thread, however slaughtering grunts IS thematically appropriate so thumbs up regardless
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Aug 5, 2014 01:32
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Wrong thread goon sir
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Are there stages that are more commonly played, or is the DW8 XL community semi-kaput? (I don't have the original) If it matters I haven't gotten out of the first part of ambition mode. EDIT: PS3.
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Brony Hunter posted:So yeah, that's a brief summary of the life and times of Ma Chao. He's hardly the paragon of justice and virtue the games portray him as... Brony Hunter posted:He at least had sense to surrender when he did, when someone like Jiang Wei would have fought to the end and bled Shu dry. Ironic, considering that Guan Yu's own capitulation to circumstances is one of the more important subplots in the novel, though the lack of a subsequent rebellion/departure by Liu Shan (unlike Jiang Wei's failed attempt), much less a successful one, is probably what disqualified him from the sympathy/acceptance given to Guan Yu, which I'd note was probably deliberately meant to parallel with Goujian despite the wide contrast of their situations...
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I really like Liu Shan in DW because he knows how incompetent he is, and just does the best he can. In the late stages of the historical he basically knows hes just a puppet, but keeps on keeping on because Shu would fall into it's own rear end without an Idol to gather around. It isn't until Jin shows up at his door and basically gets rid of everyone keeping him stuck in place that he can finally do something for himself and Shu without it falling through the filter of Jiang Wei. I also like the last stage in Shu's hypothetical route, where everyone else uses their core characters, there's little Liu Shan standing along with Zhao Yun, Zhuge Liang, and his father, and his side is him going "I do have what it takes to be great!"
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Any more word on when DLC and stuff will come out for PC DW8, or are they just loving with us?
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New info on Hyrule Warriors. Ganondorf, Zant and Ghirahim will all be playable, in addition to being enemies.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_DZtTR3zu0 Direct can be watched here, not much new that we didn't see in the NicoNico streams or Famitsu, but a few nuggets here and there.
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All these character reveals for Hyrule Warriors reminds me that I haven't played more than half of the Zelda games, I don't know hardly any of these guys. It was always a distant second to me from the Metroid series; unfortunately it's the one that has continued into the modern age.
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Metroid is also modern, thank whatever nintendo god that it did not end up like Metroid.
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DrPaper posted:New info on Hyrule Warriors. Ganondorf, Zant and Ghirahim will all be playable, in addition to being enemies. Oh my god I need this game. I don't even particularly like Zelda games, but this is just such a new and refreshing way to mash 'X'.
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Tae posted:Metroid is also modern, thank whatever nintendo god that it did not end up like Metroid. Since then, it's been a parade of wannabe indie "metroidvanias" which have almost all failed to capture what I liked about Metroid in the first place. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:I'm confused about this sentence for multiple reasons, but wasn't the last Metroid game Prime 3 early in the Wii's lifetime? And I didn't like that game very much, too much shooting and not enough exploring. Heh heh heh. You wish. Other M killed the series.
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Aug 5, 2014 08:54
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No, I'm pretty sure the series ended with Prime 3.
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Aug 5, 2014 09:16
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Hey Samurai Warriors Chronicles is back. Now on Vita too!
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I dunno, pray maybe? At least it's on a region free platform now so even if Koei does pass you can at least import the thing.
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DrPaper posted:New info on Hyrule Warriors. Ganondorf, Zant and Ghirahim will all be playable, in addition to being enemies. Christ, I forgot how loving terrifying Zant's face was underneath the mask.
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TARDISman posted:Christ, I forgot how loving terrifying Zant's face was underneath the mask. Instead he looks like Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Any more word on when DLC and stuff will come out for PC DW8, or are they just loving with us? It sounded like any delay would be on Valve's end. The dlc is in testing according to the steam dB.
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RentACop posted:Wrong thread, however slaughtering grunts IS thematically appropriate so thumbs up regardless What did he post about?
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