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devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
For the love of god, just wait for that.

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Dick Spacious CPA
Oct 10, 2012

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Not sure if this is the right place for this but it kinda came up soo.

I just marathoned fate/zero because I kept hearing about it and I ended up liking it a whole lot. Was eager for more as that's literally the extent of my knowledge is that "there's more out there."

Just found out that there's apparently a ton of games or something and they're redoing the original(?) season. Should I just wait for that or what?

you should play all the games. specifically the ones where the saber shows her boobs. that is my recommendation

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Not sure if this is the right place for this but it kinda came up soo.

I just marathoned fate/zero because I kept hearing about it and I ended up liking it a whole lot. Was eager for more as that's literally the extent of my knowledge is that "there's more out there."

Just found out that there's apparently a ton of games or something and they're redoing the original(?) season. Should I just wait for that or what?
Well, the Fate/Zero thread is still kind of kicking around...

The upcoming anime season will almost certainly be up your alley if you liked Zero. Where you go after that I guess is a different matter.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Nate RFB posted:

Well, the Fate/Zero thread is still kind of kicking around...

The upcoming anime season will almost certainly be up your alley if you liked Zero. Where you go after that I guess is a different matter.

Yeah just saw the thread so feeling a bit dumb. I just liked the character building really and how it wasn't just villain of the day anime so was just eager for more v:shobon:v

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Yeah, Ufotable is adapting the second route as a series and the third route as a movie, so you should be good with those. You'll miss the first route, but it's kinda nothing special. Its main point is to establish the Grail War and that Saber is King Arthur, which you know if you've seen Zero.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
If you're up for lot of reading there's an LP of the original FSN game that's gotten two bad adaptations so far: http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/

Maybe the third time will be the charm though.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Four adaptations of one VN.

Sheesh.

Dick Spacious CPA
Oct 10, 2012

Dick Spacious CPA posted:

you should play all the games. specifically the ones where the saber shows her boobs. that is my recommendation

i would like to amend this and recommend to ThisIsACoolGuy poster to just google for the scenes where saber shows boob. then you dont have to waste the 700 hours that it takes to complete the games and you can then have more time to go watch some good animes.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Dick Spacious CPA posted:

i would like to amend this and recommend to ThisIsACoolGuy poster to just google for the scenes where saber shows boob. then you dont have to waste the 700 hours that it takes to complete the games and you can then have more time to go watch some good animes.

The PSP game Red Saber has some real good boobs but she really doesn't show them much, which is p. disappointing because unlike Blue Saber she's like whoooa, nice rack yo.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Now I'm confused, does the series become nothing but stupid fanservice or something?

"Hey watch Fate/Zero it's pretty good." "okay" is about as much as I knew beforehand.

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Now I'm confused, does the series become nothing but stupid fanservice or something?

"Hey watch Fate/Zero it's pretty good." "okay" is about as much as I knew beforehand.

It's the Fate/ series, it didn't become anything new.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
It's based on a visual novel that had porn in it and, from what I've heard of its plot, involved loving to replenish your mana points and also something about rape worms. Seriously Good poo poo

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

HMS Boromir posted:

a visual novel that had porn in it

But you repeat yourself.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Ah, shame. Didn't really see much of that in the anime (or least I don't recall) so that's a bit of a bummer.

glomkettle
Sep 24, 2013

I want to say I've heard that there's a version of the VN without porn.

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer
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The PS2 version cut it. A patch for the PC version that edited in the PS2 scenes instead literally just came out the other day.

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Now I'm confused, does the series become nothing but stupid fanservice or something?

"Hey watch Fate/Zero it's pretty good." "okay" is about as much as I knew beforehand.

Fate/Stay Night (game)- The original VN. Fate/Zero was written as a prequel to this. 3 routes, pretty long. A new patch just came out that cuts out the porn and adds extra content from its PS2 port (which is called Realta Nua)

Fate Hollow Ataraxia - A fandisk/sequel for F/SN. Adds a few new characters as well as some slice of life stuff. English translation's been going on for the better part of a decade, currently expected never.

Fate/Stay Night (anime by Studio Deen) - Adaptation that came out nearly 10 years ago. Not very well liked. It adapted the first route of F/SN, which is generally seen as the weakest, but also hamfistedly tried to cram in elements from the other routes. Animation wasn't always that great, either. Had like one good fight scene and the rest was mostly crap.

Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (movie by Studio Deen) - Movie version of the second route of F/SN by the same studio. Had better animation, but made serious compromises to squeeze everything into movie-length.

Fate/Zero - What you watched, based on a light novel written by Gen Urobuchi, a friend of the original writer of fate. Adapted to anime by Ufotable, who did a much better job than Deen.

Fate/Unlimited Codes - Kinda bad fighting game for PS2.

Fate/Extra and Fate/Extra CCC - PSP games with a weird story. Kind of similar to the Persona games. Some people like them. Have gotten criticized for some overly fanservicey designs. The first has been officially localized, but CCC hasn't.


Upcoming:

Fate/Stay Night (ufotable) - The guys who did Fate/Zero are adapting the second route of F/SN into a TV series.

Fate: Heaven's Feel (ufotable) - They're also adapting the final route into a movie.


This list doesn't even touch on stuff from separate franchises but set in the same universe, like Tsukihime, Kara no Kyoukai, and Mahou Tsukai no Yoru.

Bakanogami fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Aug 5, 2014

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

glomkettle posted:

I want to say I've heard that there's a version of the VN without porn.

If there's a non-PC console release anywhere, yeah, there probably is. Console ports tend to get all the porn scenes rewritten out and replaced with new CGs.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Strange Quark posted:

If there's a non-PC console release anywhere, yeah, there probably is. Console ports get all the porn scenes rewritten out and replaced with new CGs.
There's a PC one too that was released a few years ago. T-M basically doesn't acknowledge the 2004 version exists anymore.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Yeah, for a while now, Type-Moon's made nothing with porn in it. Their first two VNs just kinda seemed to have the scenes because they were new and that's how you sell VNs in Japan. Now that they're a relatively big name, they don't need to do it anymore. I don't know any Type-Moon fan that unironically likes Nasu's sex scenes. They were always awfully written.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

I sometimes feel like I'm the only anime watcher in the world that thought fate/zero was trash, just in a different way from the rest of the fate/ stuff.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I liked Fate/Zero, but I will admit that like a lot of Fate stuff, it kinda suffers from having an overly literary voice due to being adapted from a book and not altering it enough to fit in a dramatic medium like television.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

mr. stefan posted:

I sometimes feel like I'm the only anime watcher in the world that thought fate/zero was trash, just in a different way from the rest of the fate/ stuff.

I wasn't a fan of it either since it decided that "show, don't tell" is actually the most heinous of crimes instead of a decent guideline to go by.

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

mr. stefan posted:

I sometimes feel like I'm the only anime watcher in the world that thought fate/zero was trash, just in a different way from the rest of the fate/ stuff.

Nah. I thought it was trash too.

Rexides
Jul 25, 2011

I loved Fate/Zero, it had some amazing scenes (Basically any scene with Rider in it), but the Fate/Zero thread put me off trying anything else in the series.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

I managed to watch about 10 episodes or so of Fate/Zero before it just got too boring. Rider was fantastic but not enough to carry the series for me.

Snow Halation
Dec 29, 2008

Bakanogami posted:

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Fate/Stay Night (game)- The original VN. Fate/Zero was written as a prequel to this. 3 routes, pretty long. A new patch just came out that cuts out the porn and adds extra content from its PS2 port (which is called Realta Nua)

There's an official Realta Nua release for PC in Japan, too (although you have to buy each route separately.)

Paper Lion
Dec 14, 2009




This page has had a lot of words about genderbent king arthur in a porno book you look at instead of read because VN readers are busy men with irons in the fire and can't just read their 21st century porno.

How are we allowed to talk about this stuff but the other creepy stuff is off the table, is this some "the only ethical abortion is my abortion" poo poo or what, please explain this

also hello richard spacious CPA I am happy you are back and am looking forward to your next appearance on Zorak's podcast

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


How can I get on Zorak's Podcast to further disseminate my Radical Anime Opinions to the masses? Is there an election process or can I just make threats to the right people?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Paper Lion posted:

This page has had a lot of words about genderbent king arthur in a porno book you look at instead of read because VN readers are busy men with irons in the fire and can't just read their 21st century porno.

How are we allowed to talk about this stuff but the other creepy stuff is off the table, is this some "the only ethical abortion is my abortion" poo poo or what, please explain this

also hello richard spacious CPA I am happy you are back and am looking forward to your next appearance on Zorak's podcast

Because it's usually, like, two minutes of weird poo poo in a seventy-two-hour game. So it's easy to overlook if you want to overlook it. Particularly since the weird poo poo doesn't show up at all in the later versions.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
There are creepy stuff in the Fate franchise but (a) they are entirely unrelated to what people like, and like to talk about with respect to it, (b) in general are very uninteresting (not to mention awkward and terrible) to discuss beyond 'OH MY, SEX IN MY ANIMES', and (c) are almost certainly entirely absent from this upcoming anime adaptation, which is the only thing that has direct relevance to the topic of this thread.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Yessss....discuss the eroges more....revive the VN thread....I'm horny already...
:unsmigghh:

Stall_19
Jan 2, 2013

Prodigy of Victor von Doom
All this F/SN porn talk is pretty much irrelevant since there is now a patch you can apply based on the non-porn version of F/SN for those weary of that stuff. Also shouldn't this conversation be taken to the Fate/Zero thread? It's pretty much a general Fate/___ thread anyways.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Fangz posted:

There are creepy stuff in the Fate franchise but (a) they are entirely unrelated to what people like, and like to talk about with respect to it, (b) in general are very uninteresting (not to mention awkward and terrible) to discuss beyond 'OH MY, SEX IN MY ANIMES', and (c) are almost certainly entirely absent from this upcoming anime adaptation, which is the only thing that has direct relevance to the topic of this thread.

And honestly, Nasu never wanted sex scenes in the first place, but he was forced to write them in because Type-Moon refused to believe people would buy the thing otherwise.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

"This poor writer never wanted to have sex stuff in the first place, which is why he put in rapeworms instead of normal sex"

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Srice posted:

"This poor writer never wanted to have sex stuff in the first place, which is why he put in rapeworms instead of normal sex"

This is literally how the visual novel market works. Japan is a weird, weird place.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
This page is basically becoming the Type Moon forums.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Darth Walrus posted:

This is literally how the visual novel market works. Japan is a weird, weird place.

I think you missed the second half of the joke I was making there, unless every visual novel has rapeworms or whatever in it in which case I guess I learned something today that I wish I hadn't.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Srice posted:

I think you missed the second half of the joke I was making there, unless every visual novel has rapeworms or whatever in it in which case I guess I learned something today that I wish I hadn't.

Well, not all of them, but...

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Nobody likes the weird stuff in the first game and it was barely being brought up before someone chided us for barely talking about it so how about we go back to talking about the anime or whatever instead.

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Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun continues to be great, it's a shame there's only gonna be 12 episodes. :(

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