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Samael posted:Maybe if he had 1 loyalty he would be not as broken? Also, I was completely spitballing, squee was probably the first goblin I can think of which wizards would probably use as a planeswalker, him or Krenko, probably. I personally want a lot more tribal based planeswalkers, since dragons (Sarkhan Vol BR version?) and Elves (Nissa) got one, why not others? It would be interesting to see something like a Shapeshifter Planeswalker with the ability to give creatures all types until EOT and the ability to pump up named creatures types, also. It seems mote likely he could be similar to your layout at 1RR. that is a more traditional cmc for a goblin lord and less busted but still fun
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PleasantDirge posted:This is how we know you are stupid. Cry some more that an $80 card got reprinted and can be had for a mere $14 US dollars. Don't buy any stifles or chords for $10 either. a mere $14 for a single card lmao
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Aug 5, 2014 22:02
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mick foley forever posted:a mere $14 for a single card lmao You sure didn't pick the right hobby if this kind of price bothers you.
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Aug 5, 2014 22:04
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i did actually because it's possible to get good cards without paying more than $10 on them my niggas, at least in standard.
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Aug 5, 2014 22:07
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mick foley forever posted:i did actually because it's possible to get good cards without paying more than $10 on them my niggas, at least in standard. The savings $$$!!
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Aug 5, 2014 22:11
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lol im not even trying to stir poo poo up by saying "i don't want to pay lots of money on a card game, even one that i like, but i dont care if other people do unless its for awful proxies" why are you all so defensive
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Aug 5, 2014 22:20
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mick foley forever posted:lol im not even trying to stir poo poo up by saying "i don't want to pay lots of money on a card game, even one that i like, but i dont care if other people do unless its for awful proxies" why are you all so defensive I am not being defensive at all. I was merely pointing out the massive savings between the 10 dollar card and the 14. Good on you bro.
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what you want me only to have 1 thoughtsieze??  you gotta have like 3-4 in a good deck and the $4 becomes a difference. but if i go with mono black i might splugre
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Stop trolling the anime card sleeves thread.
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Aug 5, 2014 22:29
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Only if you're an unwashed plebians play with $14 Theros Thoughtseizes rather than superior $35 Lorywn Thoughtseizes.JerryLee posted:Weren't the 'power level reasons' in the case of LotV for M15 pretty much "black devotion exists and already has Thoughtseize et al?" Basically the answer was that everyone would complain about mono-black if Liliana of the Veil was printed. Really, you'd be foolish to show up to the PT with something that wasn't Mono-Black if Liliana were an option. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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mick foley forever posted:a mere $14 for a single card lmao If it's going to go back to even half of it's previous value before the re-print you are actually rather stupid for not buying them at $14. Reprints worth a drat are kinda new but I will eat my rubber chuck Taylors if it stays below $20 post rotation so if a slam dunk 25% is too low a profit margin on a sleeve it, forget it, sell it move maybe that's why you have trouble buying all your cardboard with your budget.
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Either Thoughtseize is fine. People who play with mismatched Thoughtseizes, though, should be disqualified without prize.
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Attorney at Funk posted:Either Thoughtseize is fine. People who play with mismatched Thoughtseizes, though, should be disqualified without prize. Mismatched white-bordered basics all day, aw yeah.
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Entropic posted:Mismatched white-bordered basics all day, aw yeah. I am calling the police.
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Angry Grimace posted:Only if you're an unwashed plebians play with $14 Theros Thoughtseizes rather than superior $35 Lorywn Thoughtseizes. Truly a cost that justifies itself. In terms of art choices that don't cost any, what is the proper split for Hymn to Tourach? I'm currently using all 4 art pieces from Fallen Empires, with the Scott Kirschner art removed if I'm only playing 3 in my BUG Delver list. I think this is objectively correct, but I'm curious if there are any partisans for the new art, or if there are people who think I should be running Susan Van Camp exclusively (with an accompanying wolf shirt).
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I'd be on mono-Hoover, in your position. The only time I would run a mismatched playset would be to get all four of the seasonal Mishra's Factory arts.
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LaTex Fetish posted:Stop trolling the anime card sleeves thread. Since this has been brought up, could someone repost the Sorin X Jace playmat, or some mtg themed object that is possibly even more anime?
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Samael posted:We need a goblin planeswalker, something like... Don't think the rules support searches by name part.
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So a little bit of a design thought experiment after listening to a lot of the push back from LR and LSV on ornithopter. A 0/1 flyer for 0 mana is generally not a good since it costs you a card - so what IS a card worth? Or in other words, what's the weakest 0 CMC creature that would be playable to good? Considering a vanilla 1/1 for 1 mana is also generally seen as bad, the obvious answer seems to be a 1/1 for 0, but I'm curious what other people think.
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We've had that card. It's called memnite. It also wasn't a high pick, although it was sometimes played in a metalcraft deck.
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Jonked posted:So a little bit of a design thought experiment after listening to a lot of the push back from LR and LSV on ornithopter. A 0/1 flyer for 0 mana is generally not a good since it costs you a card - so what IS a card worth? Or in other words, what's the weakest 0 CMC creature that would be playable to good? IMO, The absolute best vanilla/keywords only creature card you could print for 0 mana is a 1/2, or a 1/1 with some kind of evasion.
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Anyone who says Ornithopter is a bad card immediately loses all rights to talk about whether a card is good or not. 
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LGD posted:Truly a cost that justifies itself. I'm an "all four or wolfshirts only" guy myself. Personally I'd cut the Liz Danforth art before the Kirschner art, but really they're all either pretty good or look like a wolfshirt.
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Serperoth posted:Speaking of altered cards, the manager of my local game store has a promo Brainstorm, signed by the artist. I have a friend who wrote a letter to The Duelist back in middle school, and since they published his letter, they sent him a 4E Lightning Bolt signed by Richard Garfield, and Garfield drew a little stick figure getting hit by the lightning bolt with an arrow pointing at the figure with my friend's name on it. LGD posted:In terms of art choices that don't cost any, what is the proper split for Hymn to Tourach? I'm currently using all 4 art pieces from Fallen Empires, with the Scott Kirschner art removed if I'm only playing 3 in my BUG Delver list. I think this is objectively correct, but I'm curious if there are any partisans for the new art, or if there are people who think I should be running Susan Van Camp exclusively (with an accompanying wolf shirt). 
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rk post, you're the best and always will be the best.
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Gensuki posted:Since this has been brought up, could someone repost the Sorin X Jace playmat, or some mtg themed object that is possibly even more anime?  エリシュ・ノーン です。
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jscolon2.0 posted:Don't think the rules support searches by name part. It wouldn't be the weirdest name-based search, but there's only 28 cards that have goblin in their name without being goblins, so it just seems needlessly complicated. Goblin power level opinion: oh my god I'd play 5.
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Jonked posted:So a little bit of a design thought experiment after listening to a lot of the push back from LR and LSV on ornithopter. A 0/1 flyer for 0 mana is generally not a good since it costs you a card - so what IS a card worth? Or in other words, what's the weakest 0 CMC creature that would be playable to good? I think you could do a 2/1 ball lightning for 0
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Jonked posted:So a little bit of a design thought experiment after listening to a lot of the push back from LR and LSV on ornithopter. A 0/1 flyer for 0 mana is generally not a good since it costs you a card - so what IS a card worth? Or in other words, what's the weakest 0 CMC creature that would be playable to good? a 1/1 for 0 is good. The argument against ornithopter is that it does absolutely nothing by itself. It gets put out there and needs help. The most Ornithopter usually does is just chump block and doesn't even trade. Ornithopter will do 0 damage by itself in a game where the goal is to out-damage your opponent. A 1/1 does damage, at the very least. If you had a 0-cost 1/1, on turn one you could potentially have 2 bodies that are actually going to do damage. That's a big deal in limited and something that appeals to me as an aggressive player.
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LaTex Fetish posted:a 1/1 for 0 is good. The argument against ornithopter is that it does absolutely nothing by itself. It gets put out there and needs help. The most Ornithopter usually does is just chump block and doesn't even trade. I agree. I've won so many games in online drafts where my opponent was running multiple Ornithopter hoping to draw their singleton Ensoul Artifact. Inevitably they sit there doing nothing then eventually chump block out of desperation. The only GOOD use of Ornithopter I've seen is in a deck that ran a lot of those red dudes that care about artifacts and Roaring Primadox so he could bounce the free creature every turn and never have to get behind the mana curve.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I know, and I was thrilled. M15 is finally giving GW some cards worth playing, but you can't pretend it hasn't been shat on for the past year. Let's give GW this really good card called Voice of Resurgence. In the standard with Pillar of Flame. And on it's way out, in a standard with Anger of the Gods and the loving Magma Spray reprint.
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Ramos posted:
BaronVonVaderham posted:I know, and I was thrilled. M15 is finally giving GW some cards worth playing, but you can't pretend it hasn't been shat on for the past year.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I agree. I've won so many games in online drafts where my opponent was running multiple Ornithopter hoping to draw their singleton Ensoul Artifact. Inevitably they sit there doing nothing then eventually chump block out of desperation. You mean good use in limited right? Ornithopter may do nothing on its own, but there are lots of cards that do nothing on their own and are amazing...
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LaTex Fetish posted:a 1/1 for 0 is good. The argument against ornithopter is that it does absolutely nothing by itself. It gets put out there and needs help. The most Ornithopter usually does is just chump block and doesn't even trade. Ornithopter will do 0 damage by itself in a game where the goal is to out-damage your opponent. A 1/1 does damage, at the very least. It's still generally not worth a card in limited, Memnite was not a good card in limited unless you were playing a metalcraft deck because it doesn't do anything once the other guy plays a stupid bear.
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Gensuki posted:You mean good use in limited right? Ornithopter may do nothing on its own, but there are lots of cards that do nothing on their own and are amazing... Yes, just Limited. I've been beaten down by too many Ornithopters in Modern to underestimate the card in Constructed.
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Star Man posted:rk post, you're the best and always will be the best. I met rk post through an artist friend at GP Worcester. The first words he said to me were "why aren't we drinking?" That endeared him to me pretty well.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I think you could do a 2/1 ball lightning for 0 Auto include in burn. T1 goblin guide baby ball lightning hit you for 4.
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tzirean posted:I met rk post through an artist friend at GP Worcester. The first words he said to me were "why aren't we drinking?" That endeared him to me pretty well. Talked to him for a while the first day of GP Chicago when things were slow. Cool dude. He also had an amazing Cathulhu mat he drew for sale  
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Elyv posted:It's still generally not worth a card in limited, Memnite was not a good card in limited unless you were playing a metalcraft deck because it doesn't do anything once the other guy plays a stupid bear. They are good in a convoke heavy deck? Then they're like off color moxen that can hold auras?
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