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Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Raptorfag posts. All of Auspol goes to jail.

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webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

ewe2 posted:

Sharri Markson has been trumpeting her success about it on twitter this morning. She put together a pdf of all of Mike Carlton's responses as proof of his abuse. She forwarded 15 of his emails to the SMH editor, who then pressured Carlton to resign.

So how did she get the emails and what was Carlton responding to? :iiam: I don't think the guy was smart to do what he did, because clearly Murdoch Ltd has decided if they can't win the circulation wars, they'll just whittle down the other side.

Yeah replying like that to readers isn't a great idea, but as he said this morning there's only so many times you can get called "Nazi scum" before you start telling people to gently caress off.


deathofmusic posted:

''It's not what you're doing on the internet, it's the sites you're visiting, it's not the content, it's the sites that you've been,''

It's the law, it's Mabo, it's the vibe

Bomb-Bunny
Mar 4, 2007
A true population explosion.

webmeister posted:

It's the law, it's Mabo, it's the vibe

So it boils down to, "we know who we want to put the screw on, we'll figure out why we want to later".

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Pretty sure the guy that ran Buildev lived next door to my parents for ages.

When my mum was a kid the family lived next door to George Freeman and one day she and her little brother found a gun and asked his wife if they could play with it. :3:

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i'll believe the law is serious and not racist when australian jews returning from israel are detained as being potentially involved in terrorist activities. until then it's just a dogwhistle muslim thing

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Amoeba102 posted:

Exception if you used a multi ticket. I should have said it's better if you use exclusively one for of transport 5 days a week, unless it's traisn outside of peak times.

I think if you got a multi 3 the Opal would be cheaper due to the 60 dollar weekely cap, but I don't know the prices off-hand. The multi 2 was 52, maybe it's up to 54 now. It depends how much the bus costs you, and if it's a long ride, you'll add up to $9 a day.
Opal can be cheaper, if you have more than 2 journeys a day, ie catch a short bus at lunch that'd be cheaper than than your normal commute. You have to game the system to get the most out of it or you'll end up worse off. Mainly because the mymulti was a great deal.


I've got a MyMulti1 as I catch 2-3 buses each way to/from work and with Opal it'll end up being $36 rather than $46, so there's a pretty easy saving right there (life would be easier if Sydney Buses drivers universally allowed transfers rather than not believing they exist). It's not very difficult to save money on it, really. Especially if (like me) you frequently will take a trip or two on some sort of public transport on the weekend as well, since now it's free if you've done your normal weekly commute. Hell, maybe it'll push a few people into using public transport more... (hahahahaa pipe dreaming there, although being able to catch a ferry from Parramatta to the City and back on Sunday for $2.50 capped is pretty incredible compared to the non-Opal fare).

Now my friend who works at the airport, she's getting reamed by the prices... :(. Maybe the workers there should unite in some fashion and try to force their employers to pay the airport tax for them. Nah, that's crazy talk. Couldn't happen :(.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
Sydney Alliance are running a campaign to remove the fee for workers! Sign the petition: http://www.sydneyalliance.org.au/airportfee

deathofmusic
Jan 3, 2001

Scylo posted:

Turns out Abbott was wrong and browsing history isn't actually a part of data retention.

Is he wrong, incompetent, technically illiterate, stupid or intentionally confusing the debate?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/06/australias_metadata_debate_is_an_utter_shambles/

quote:

As much as anything, Australians should fear the government's metadata retention proposals because it's becoming increasingly clear that our politicians have no idea what they're proposing.

Within a single day of the prime minister, Tony Abbott, taking to the microphone with attorney-general George Brandis and foreign minister Julie Bishop to announce the plan as a raft of counter-terrorism measures, the PM has:

- Broadened the justification for metadata retention from preventing terrorism to crime-fighting “in general”;
- Stated that the new laws are needed because carriers already store the data the government wants;
- Asserted that metadata retention will involve no cost to carriers because they already collect the data the government wants; and
- Broadened the scope of the data collection to Web browsing history, while simultaneously trotting out the national security establishment's falsehood that metadata collection is no more than “reading what's on the envelope”.

In a single day, the prime minister has put himself at odds with statements made by the national security establishment – most usually from the director-general of ASIO, David Irvine – to parliamentary committees examining data retention, security laws, and telecommunications interception laws.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

quote:

When asked this morning if he had given any guarantees to people who want the laws repealed that he would try again in the future, Mr Abbott responded: "It's off the table - it is gone. It's disappeared."

The govt is getting good at disappearing things.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


deathofmusic posted:

Is he wrong, incompetent, technically illiterate, stupid or intentionally confusing the debate?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/06/australias_metadata_debate_is_an_utter_shambles/

I'd like to lock in E: All of the above, thanks Eddie.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Does anyone here use a credit union or a small bank or something like that? I'm really tired of being screwed around by Westpac and would like to at least consider moving my money out of the Big Four. I'm only interested in going with someone who has an excellent online banking system, though.

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

Credit Union Australia has a simple enough online system and their customer service is fantastic. CUA has fees if you withdraw more than 4 times a month if you have less than $5000 with them. They've got 3% interest on their savings account. You can withdraw free from rediatms and NABs network.

UBank is all online and has 4.11% but you'll still be part of the big four (its backed by NAB)

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

deathofmusic posted:

''It's not what you're doing on the internet, it's the sites you're visiting, it's not the content, it's the sites that you've been,''

The site's you're visiting have nothing to do with what you're doing on the internet!

He's been told to say this. But with data retention, you don't have to look at people's computers. You only have to set up a proxy that gets everything they're doing and filter it for urls and keywords at your leisure later. It's bullshit designed to comfort people who don't understand networking.

Contra Duck
Nov 4, 2004

#1 DAD

Those On My Left posted:

Does anyone here use a credit union or a small bank or something like that? I'm really tired of being screwed around by Westpac and would like to at least consider moving my money out of the Big Four. I'm only interested in going with someone who has an excellent online banking system, though.

What exactly do you need from the online banking? Credit unions are good for a lot of things but the online/mobile banking, while functional, won't be as fancy as the ones the big 4 have.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Those On My Left posted:

Does anyone here use a credit union or a small bank or something like that? I'm really tired of being screwed around by Westpac and would like to at least consider moving my money out of the Big Four. I'm only interested in going with someone who has an excellent online banking system, though.

ING are quite good, provided you don't need to make cash deposits or bank a cheque. They have no fees, usually higher than average interest and have some handy things right now (2% back when you use paywave)

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

New improved team australia from @somersetbean

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

xPanda posted:

More Opal chat: I saw the other day, for the first time, someone actually use it on a bus. It takes as long to get on a bus with Opal as it does for the current ticket machines, and now it takes as long to get off the bus. So not only have they not changed how long it takes to get everyone on a bus (which is a big deal during peak hour) but the new system adds time to people getting off the bus. So now it takes longer to get on and off buses, harder to get tickets, and costs more. I'd be more upset about this monumental fuckup if it weren't the NSW government behind it - I think I have some serious fuckup fatigue there.

I think it's quicker with Opal comapred to the ticket dipping, but only by a second. However, now getting off with take more time, which is going to be a intresting to see a packed peak hour bus tapping off at a train station or some such.

iajanus posted:

I've got a MyMulti1 as I catch 2-3 buses each way to/from work and with Opal it'll end up being $36 rather than $46, so there's a pretty easy saving right there (life would be easier if Sydney Buses drivers universally allowed transfers rather than not believing they exist). It's not very difficult to save money on it, really. Especially if (like me) you frequently will take a trip or two on some sort of public transport on the weekend as well, since now it's free if you've done your normal weekly commute. Hell, maybe it'll push a few people into using public transport more... (hahahahaa pipe dreaming there, although being able to catch a ferry from Parramatta to the City and back on Sunday for $2.50 capped is pretty incredible compared to the non-Opal fare).

Now my friend who works at the airport, she's getting reamed by the prices... :(. Maybe the workers there should unite in some fashion and try to force their employers to pay the airport tax for them. Nah, that's crazy talk. Couldn't happen :(.

Well you've hit on another advantage, bus transfers. However, if you caught trains along with your buses you'd be paying more than the multi1.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Contra Duck posted:

What exactly do you need from the online banking? Credit unions are good for a lot of things but the online/mobile banking, while functional, won't be as fancy as the ones the big 4 have.

I've been with CUA a long time now, and their online banking is really straightforward and works fine. I've never found myself thinking "oh man I wish I could do X." Since I've never used any of the Big 4 (apart from a brief trial of ANZ that went horribly wrong, so I closed the account), I don't even actually know what sort of features the big banks would have that CUA doesn't.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

BCR posted:

Credit Union Australia has a simple enough online system and their customer service is fantastic. CUA has fees if you withdraw more than 4 times a month if you have less than $5000 with them. They've got 3% interest on their savings account. You can withdraw free from rediatms and NABs network.
Thanks heaps! I will look into CUA.

Zenithe posted:

ING are quite good, provided you don't need to make cash deposits or bank a cheque. They have no fees, usually higher than average interest and have some handy things right now (2% back when you use paywave)
I had an ING account before, I will also check them out. I wonder what their ethical credentials are like?

Contra Duck posted:

What exactly do you need from the online banking? Credit unions are good for a lot of things but the online/mobile banking, while functional, won't be as fancy as the ones the big 4 have.
Basically, I need to be able to log into it, transfer money between several of my own accounts (my partner and I have four separate joint accounts that we use for various purposes), pay other people with bank transfers, and BPay bills. Over the last few months with westpac, logging into it has apparently become a really difficult task for them to manage. I time-out maybe half the time. Today I've tried four or five times and haven't been able to log in. Their tech support is useless.

e: Do CUA offer a Mastercard/Visa/AMEX?

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Zenithe posted:

ING are quite good, provided you don't need to make cash deposits or bank a cheque. They have no fees, usually higher than average interest and have some handy things right now (2% back when you use paywave)

Seconding ING, fantastic bank. They don't do credit cards if that's something you need, but all bank cards are debit cards so that's not a biggie.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

quote:

Asked about privacy concerns, Abbott told ABC radio he had “no doubt that the civil libertarian brigade will do their best to stop this, but my responsibility as prime minister is to keep our country safe. That’s my responsibility and all of the expert advice from every single counter-terrorist agency is that this information is absolutely essential if we are to maintain our vigilance against terrorist activity.”

:munch:

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Those On My Left posted:

Does anyone here use a credit union or a small bank or something like that? I'm really tired of being screwed around by Westpac and would like to at least consider moving my money out of the Big Four. I'm only interested in going with someone who has an excellent online banking system, though.

Can I ask how exactly you're being screwed over by Westpac? I'm with Westpac, and the worst I can actually articulate about them is that I don't like their online banking, it feels kind of borked and non-user-friendly.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2014/aug/05/raf-jets-escort-qatar-airways-plane-to-manchester-airport-live-coverage

Glad to see our rampant stupidity is spreading onto international flights

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Cleretic posted:

Can I ask how exactly you're being screwed over by Westpac? I'm with Westpac, and the worst I can actually articulate about them is that I don't like their online banking, it feels kind of borked and non-user-friendly.

As I said above (we were probably posting at the same time) their online banking is absolutely hosed for me. Further, I've found their credit card service to be atrocious. I've had my credit cards long enough to go through two renewal periods, and in each case they've completely hosed up the renewal, which is a big problem if you've got joint cards with your partner, as it means hers have to get cancelled too. Last month I spent maybe two hours on the phone to them just to get them to send the cards to the right loving address, and they misinformed me about it once. I then had to basically bully them into waiving my fees as compensation for their lovely service - I shouldn't have had to ask.

Bifauxnen posted:

I've been with CUA a long time now, and their online banking is really straightforward and works fine. I've never found myself thinking "oh man I wish I could do X." Since I've never used any of the Big 4 (apart from a brief trial of ANZ that went horribly wrong, so I closed the account), I don't even actually know what sort of features the big banks would have that CUA doesn't.

Thanks for chiming in :)

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009

What's that got to do with Australia?

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

In case anyone is interested, I found this info about Credit Union Australia's ethical cred:

quote:

"“CUA does not directly finance the coal and gas sector and we do not lend directly to companies within those sectors. As Australia’s largest credit union, CUA’s business is the provision of personal banking products and services and our business banking customers are typically within the SME sector.”

http://www.marketforces.org.au/banks/compare

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Ragingsheep posted:

What's that got to do with Australia?

Oops, misread it. Thought it said the guy was from Australia, but nope. The couple they were interviewing were (who cares?).

Contra Duck
Nov 4, 2004

#1 DAD

Those On My Left posted:

Basically, I need to be able to log into it, transfer money between several of my own accounts (my partner and I have four separate joint accounts that we use for various purposes), pay other people with bank transfers, and BPay bills. Over the last few months with westpac, logging into it has apparently become a really difficult task for them to manage. I time-out maybe half the time. Today I've tried four or five times and haven't been able to log in. Their tech support is useless.

Cool, that's all pretty standard and you'll be able to do that with every credit union. They'll all offer visa and/or mastercard too. ATM's won't be an issue either because pretty much every credit union is a part of the rediatm network so you'll get free withdrawals at any NAB or redi ATM. CUA is a fine choice, they're much bigger than most credit unions too which is probably a good thing if you ever have the urge to visit a branch, but you may also want to check if there's a specific credit union for your industry or region as well because sometimes they can be better.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Is he actively now trying to insult the IPA? Who the hell is this government trying to get to support them?

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009

Lid posted:

Is he actively now trying to insult the IPA? Who the hell is this government trying to get to support them?

Tim Wilson was against the changes on Twitter this morning. Seems like the only group this government hasn't upset yet is the christian religious right.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Contra Duck posted:

you may also want to check if there's a specific credit union for your industry or region as well because sometimes they can be better.

Better in what respect?

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Zenithe posted:

ING are quite good, provided you don't need to make cash deposits or bank a cheque. They have no fees, usually higher than average interest and have some handy things right now (2% back when you use paywave)

Huh, maybe I should look into them again. I used to have one of their online-only savings accounts and it was great, but then I drained it to start throwing money into a first home saver. But that's all getting scrapped now and I can pull that money out next year, so... :toot:

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Ragingsheep posted:

Tim Wilson was against the changes on Twitter this morning. Seems like the only group this government hasn't upset yet is the christian religious right.

Yeah, who is that guy? I saw him on ABC this morning and it said he was a representative of the human right commission or some such body.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Orkin Mang posted:

Yeah, who is that guy? I saw him on ABC this morning and it said he was a representative of the human right commission or some such body.

He's our Human Rights Commissioner. :negative:

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Orkin Mang posted:

Yeah, who is that guy? I saw him on ABC this morning and it said he was a representative of the human right commission or some such body.

Tim Wilson is a former spokeswanker for the IPA, and then Brandis created the post of Freedom Commissioner at the Human Rights Commission.

SMH profile from earlier in the year.

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

Those On My Left posted:

Does anyone here use a credit union or a small bank or something like that? I'm really tired of being screwed around by Westpac and would like to at least consider moving my money out of the Big Four. I'm only interested in going with someone who has an excellent online banking system, though.

I'm with bankMECU and they would win hands-down any "most ethical bank" contest. They also apparently just won an award for having the best internet banking experience in the credit union/member owned bank category.

http://www.bankmecu.com.au/why-bank-with-us/sustainability-and-community.html

Their twitter account is pretty openly activist about leftish things

Drugs fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Aug 6, 2014

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Tim Wilson is a former spokeswanker
brb stealing this

Haters Objector posted:

I'm with bankMECU and they would win hands-down any "most ethical bank" contest. They also apparently just won an award for having the best internet banking experience in the credit union/member owned bank category.

http://www.bankmecu.com.au/why-bank-with-us/sustainability-and-community.html

Their twitter account is pretty openly activist about leftish things
Thanks heaps! A friend just recommended them to me as well, I will definitely check them out.

Contra Duck
Nov 4, 2004

#1 DAD

Those On My Left posted:

Better in what respect?

Sometimes they will have lower fees or better interest rates on some products. It depends on your situation though. As an example, Teacher's Mutual Bank are about even with CUA on most things but their low rate credit card deal is excellent, no annual fees and 11.5% interest. If credit cards mattered to you then it might be a good idea to go with them instead but otherwise it doesn't matter. You can check out the credit unions that apply to you to see if they can do anything that is way better.

e: hadn't heard of bankmecu before that but they look pretty drat good.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Contra Duck posted:

Sometimes they will have lower fees or better interest rates on some products. It depends on your situation though. As an example, Teacher's Mutual Bank are about even with CUA on most things but their low rate credit card deal is excellent, no annual fees and 11.5% interest. If credit cards mattered to you then it might be a good idea to go with them instead but otherwise it doesn't matter. You can check out the credit unions that apply to you to see if they can do anything that is way better.

e: hadn't heard of bankmecu before that but they look pretty drat good.

Thanks for pointing that out. For credit cards, the only thing I want to make sure of is that there are no annual fees. I never carry a balance on my credit card and so am not worried about interest.

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Cartoon posted:

Soil yourself isn't quite as catchy as kill yourself but I suppose it's a step forward.

I want to start a landscaping business and call it Help, I've Soiled Myself.

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