Hobgoblin2099 posted:

It seems to work two ways over the course of the manga.

1. Originally, Bites the Dust attaches itself to Hayato, which causes Killer Queen to no longer be summonable by Kira unless he retracts it. For as long as Kira leaves Killer Queen on a non-Stand using target, anyone who gets information about his identity from that target is blown up and killed. Time is then reset to the morning of that day/time of the implant of Bites the Dust(?). Any deaths that occurred before the reset are destined to happen and cannot be prevented even if the person Bites the Dust is attached to does things differently. The only way to prevent these deaths would be to have Kira withdraw Killer Queen from whomever he has implanted it into, canceling out Bites the Dust's effect. Additionally, only the person that Killer Queen is attached to retains memories of before the reset.

2. Kira can implant Bites the Dust in himself and tell everyone who he is, blowing them up and sending him back in time. He retains his memories of before the reset.

ASB seems to combine both of these aspects of his skill.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

It seems to work two ways over the course of the manga.

1. Originally, Bites the Dust attaches itself to Hayato, which causes Killer Queen to no longer be summonable by Kira unless he retracts it. For as long as Kira leaves Killer Queen on a non-Stand using target, anyone who gets information about his identity from that target is blown up and killed. Time is then reset to the morning of that day/time of the implant of Bites the Dust(?). Any deaths that occurred before the reset are destined to happen and cannot be prevented even if the person Bites the Dust is attached to does things differently. The only way to prevent these deaths would be to have Kira withdraw Killer Queen from whomever he has implanted it into, canceling out Bites the Dust's effect. Additionally, only the person that Killer Queen is attached to retains memories of before the reset.

2. Kira can implant Bites the Dust in himself and tell everyone who he is, blowing them up and sending him back in time. He retains his memories of before the reset.

ASB seems to combine both of these aspects of his skill.

Waffleman_ posted:

Ｋｉｌｌ ｄａ ｂｉｔｃｈ！

Act 3 owned.

amuayse posted:

Kira starting to get all cocky around a wounded Jotaro before getting smacked down himself was pretty awesome.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

It seems to work two ways over the course of the manga.

1. Originally, Bites the Dust attaches itself to Hayato, which causes Killer Queen to no longer be summonable by Kira unless he retracts it. For as long as Kira leaves Killer Queen on a non-Stand using target, anyone who gets information about his identity from that target is blown up and killed. Time is then reset to the morning of that day/time of the implant of Bites the Dust(?). Any deaths that occurred before the reset are destined to happen and cannot be prevented even if the person Bites the Dust is attached to does things differently. The only way to prevent these deaths would be to have Kira withdraw Killer Queen from whomever he has implanted it into, canceling out Bites the Dust's effect. Additionally, only the person that Killer Queen is attached to retains memories of before the reset.

2. Kira can implant Bites the Dust in himself and tell everyone who he is, blowing them up and sending him back in time. He retains his memories of before the reset.

ASB seems to combine both of these aspects of his skill.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Still the best Jotaro oneliner.

Momomo posted:

Those seem like the same thing to me, Kira can choose who to place Bites the Dust on and they are the one who will remember.

Broseph Brostar posted:

Annasui was supposed to be a girl but they made Araki change her to a him because they didn't want to show a lesbian relationship in Shonen Jump.

Potsticker posted:

The last two times this was brought up, I asked for some sort of reference. Like, anything more than just being speculation. I'm not saying it's not feasably what happened, I'd just like to read the source.

RatHat posted:

Annasui is literally a girl in his first appearance.

Butt Ghost posted:

I'm reading Part 6, and Jolyne just called F.F. a queer. Twice. But this is Jojo. Araki talks about drawing DIO shirtless so he can see how pretty his abs are. Also they showed Pucci eating two cherries without his hands in between all that. I am receiving mixed messenges and I feel lost.

Beef Waifu posted:

It's Florida

MonsterEnvy posted:

He did not put it on himself. He put it in the Woman he was talking to. Because everyone would have heard his secret everyone but him and the lady would have blown up. Kira also seems to know when there has been a time reset though he does not know what happened.

Butt Ghost posted:

It might just be the translation.

jyrque posted:

re: queer talk

It's also very possible that the translator is using a word that wasn't used in the original context. As in "wow you look weird" gets changed around to fit Jolyne's juvenile delinquent act.

jyrque posted:

edit: actually, I don't think Araki has ever given any thought to gay people in general in Jojo or otherwise. Flamboyant men in Jojo are an aesthetic choice based on Araki's fixation on Italian fashion and the concept of ideal male body.

jyrque posted:

re: queer talk

It's also very possible that the translator is using a word that wasn't used in the original context. As in "wow you look weird" gets changed around to fit Jolyne's juvenile delinquent act.

edit: actually, I don't think Araki has ever given any thought to gay people in general in Jojo or otherwise. Flamboyant men in Jojo are an aesthetic choice based on Araki's fixation on Italian fashion and the concept of ideal male body.

darealkooky posted:

There's only one jojo so far who doesn't either have children or is very clearly interested in the opposite sex, and so araki compensates by making that part the one where they spend like two goddamn volumes on one of the characters getting a girlfriend

not to say that gay ppl don't exist in jojo's, rohan is a total homo for example

Ibram Gaunt posted:

People extrapolate that Annasui being a girl originally means that Araki was going to have them hook up with Jolyne that far in advance.

Which is dumb because if you've read any amount of JoJos youd know that Araki never plans something that far in advance and just goes with the flow. I don't buy it at all.

Kurtofan posted:

I don't have my volumes on me, but I'm pretty sure the French translation used "travelo" (drag queen/transvestite).

amuayse posted:

Waffleman_ posted:

Wil Wheaton likes Jojo. A lot.

Supersonic Shine posted:

Yeah, apparently, he had a clip of Jojo on his show, but I haven't gotten a hold of it. It's called The Wil Wheaton Project. Has anybody here actually watched it?