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Post the article for those who don't subscribe to toilet paper.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 01:27 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 09:32 |
You asked for it.quote:The cruiser Cowpens was halfway through its Western Pacific cruise earlier this yearwhen the commanding officer got sick.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 01:30 |
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The cowpens has had quite a history just like every other CG. Its about time to shoot down another air liner.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 01:34 |
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almighty posted:While Goon seamen here discuss the foreign wimminz they might encounter in foreign ports, something very interesting has allegedly been going on board USS Cowpens. Also, what the hell was OPS doing through all this?
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 01:51 |
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Wtf is wrong with you people, post a picture of the CHENG already.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:04 |
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Edit: what vulturesrow said.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:07 |
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if you pay for a subscription to the navy times you are easily the most insufferable human being on the face of the earth NEW CHANGES THE MCPON WANTS FOR YOUR PHYSICAL TRAINING UNIFORM WHAT IT COULD MEAN FOR YOUR ADVANCEMENT SAILORS WANT TO KNOW
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:09 |
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vulturesrow posted:Wtf is wrong with you people, post a picture of the CHENG already. I just did broseph.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:14 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:I just did broseph. Oh I assumed that was the CO. I don't know a whole lot about surface goings on but it seems like 80% of hosed up ship stories I've heard involve the Cowpens. e: just read some of the investigation vulturesrow fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Aug 6, 2014 |
# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:18 |
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When I googled her name, her facebook page was the first hit and that was the picture.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:40 |
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vulturesrow posted:Wtf is wrong with you people, post a picture of the CHENG already. http://research.archives.gov/description/6699519 Dingleberry fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Aug 6, 2014 |
# ? Aug 6, 2014 02:53 |
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she's a Boat 10, definitely
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:07 |
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that story rules, for a lot of reasons
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:28 |
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DownByTheWooter posted:she's a Boat 10, definitely
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:32 |
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Seriously, where was the OPSO, where was the CMC, where was some random JO chatting with a friend at CSG about the hosed up situation, where was anything?
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:45 |
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Nick Soapdish posted:Seriously, where was the OPSO, where was the CMC, where was some random JO chatting with a friend at CSG about the hosed up situation, where was anything? CMC got NJPd along with the CO and CHENG for not reporting this. I also want to know about OPS, but random SWO JOs are so beaten down that they tend to just go with the flow no matter how completely hosed up it is because to be honest we were never sure what was abnormal and what was usual surface fuckery.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:51 |
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Nick Soapdish posted:Seriously, where was the OPSO, where was the CMC, where was some random JO chatting with a friend at CSG about the hosed up situation, where was anything? CMC got fired and went to Admiral's Mast, too. We've been friends for years and all of his FB buddies are all "Oh man, you got the shaft, homie, prayers!" Meanwhile we're all like "Welp, turns out you hosed up and are lucky you get to retire as a E-9. You had one job, Bro." OMG that picture. HOW DID SOMEONE LET HER GET HER PICTURE TAKEN WITH HER HAIR hosed UP.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:51 |
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I think the most hilarious part of the story is that somehow the ISIC managed to not know that the ship was missing an XO.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:53 |
Word elsewhere is that she used to hand out business cards with self photos that were described as "provocative". Of course, this was coming from bitter old SWOs, so that probably just means her picture was from the waist up or some poo poo.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:54 |
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Octopode posted:Word elsewhere is that she used to hand out business cards with self photos that were described as "provocative". Of course, this was coming from bitter old SWOs, so that probably just means her picture was from the waist up or some poo poo. Given that she was playing house with the CO, it may have been more.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:58 |
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When I read the story I saw they when to mast for it, I was more just saying rhetorically the idea that those fuckers had been in long enough to be like, yeah, this is the time when we need to fire the flare and get help.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 04:06 |
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Before I got into the meat of the story because of the paywall, all I could see was discussion about the captain being holed up for the better half of deployment. That happened on my last deployment as well, but for slightly different reasons. The whole time, though, ISIC was fully aware. Dude was just plain sick. He would still come to all nav details and meetings. He might be in PT gear and go back down after he was sure the XO/Ops had it, but he never missed anything. The XO was taking over command in a couple of months anyways, so it worked out fine. He actually chaired my OOD board because the skipper was ill. He didn't have any officers making his bed or cooking him meals, though.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 04:24 |
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There's some sensational reporting in there that makes me want to punch Mr. David Larter in the dick (and then get rung up on SAPR charges). But still,
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 04:35 |
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Serious question Isn't this the same cruiser that has rammed or struck other vessels, and also gone through three or four CO's; why not just scrap the thing?
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 05:29 |
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Ogrel72 posted:Serious question Gone through COs at a pretty nice clip really. Send all nobles there.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 07:14 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Before I got into the meat of the story because of the paywall, all I could see was discussion about the captain being holed up for the better half of deployment. That happened on my last deployment as well, but for slightly different reasons. The whole time, though, ISIC was fully aware. Dude was just plain sick. He would still come to all nav details and meetings. He might be in PT gear and go back down after he was sure the XO/Ops had it, but he never missed anything. The XO was taking over command in a couple of months anyways, so it worked out fine. He actually chaired my OOD board because the skipper was ill. He didn't have any officers making his bed or cooking him meals, though. Like you said, different reasons and all, but I just can't imagine a ship doing UNREPs with the CO in his rack and no XO on the bridge. That isn't a shot at the JOs on the ship since they managed to get it done without crashing or killing people, but if he is so incapacitated that he can't even make it to the bridge for that he should have told the ISIC. There is some other stuff that my coworkers saw when they went to the ship for an FTA that sounded at the time hard to believe, but now it makes sense.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 07:22 |
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There's more.quote:157 (U) The Acting XO/CHENG kept some of her toiletries, specifically (redacted) in the UCC head medicine cabinet. "Pro-tip: Department Heads do not keep toiletries in the Commanding Officer's cabin."
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 11:30 |
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I was talking about thus with a couple of friends. I suspect that the department heads and the CMC didn't say anything because they legitimately enjoyed the increase in power and authority they were each and to grab with the captain basically abdicating his position. I say this with some insight as during my last tour DH I had a very, very poor captain that would lock himself up in his cabin for days sometimes and I made some decisions above my paygrade. It was a lovely situation, but it felt awesome to no poo poo be the man in charge even for a brief moment. Plus there is certainly an undercurrent of fear of punishment if it was reported to the ISIC, which I can sympathize with.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 11:32 |
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Netanyahu posted:Other than the Seals/jets, what other cool poo poo is the US Navy responsible for doing that the general public might not be aware of? The US Navy is the official time keeper for the US Government, and most of the world by default. They maintain the Atomic Clock at the US Naval Observatory. This time is then fed to the GPS system, which is the time signal that thousands of other stems world wide use for their basic functioning. Additionally the vast majority of data that NOAA uses and distributes to predict the weather and ocean environment, and further refine and develop their models, comes from regular messages that Navy ships at sea send with there observations.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 11:38 |
In news not involving shenanigans, the Chief list is out: http://projects.militarytimes.com/chief-advancements/index.php
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 14:47 |
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Ogrel72 posted:Serious question This is the same ship the late Capt. Holly 'Witch' Graff used to command, who was fired for abusing his command authority among other things. No, Cowpens did not ram another ship, she was assigned to tail the Chinese Carrier Liaoyang and her battlegroup on Liaoyang's trial cruise. One of Liaoyang's escorts maneuvered aggressively to ward Cowpens out, which resulted in a few close passes.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:04 |
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almighty posted:This is the same ship the late Capt. Holly 'Witch' Graff used to command, who was fired for abusing his command authority among other things. Abusing her command authority. It finally boiled to a head when she threw a full coffee mug at the XO for being late to a briefing. His immediate response was to yell at everyone else to get out, and a few hours later she was relieved of command. She also ran the ship soft aground in her time in command.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:23 |
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Playing Mad Libs with the redacted portions of the investigation report is a lot of fun, especially the medical parts. I also totally disagree with CDR Salamander. There is no way that an 11 year SWO could handle CHENG, XO, and CO duties on a deployment and come out looking good. It's just too much responsibility and work. There's also no way the CO could "honorably" take himself out of action due to medical issues when he could have had a qualified XO on board if he asked.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:30 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:Playing Mad Libs with the redacted portions of the investigation report is a lot of fun, especially the medical parts. That's the thing I didn't understand. We have some many post-tour O-5/O-6 types at staffs that even if you brought in an empty uniform with an oak leaf on it, I am sure CHENG would have come out looking golden. Having just gotten to the Opinions portion of the report, the section before that 178-206 "Reports/Concerns of Fraternization Communicated to CoC" is a good read on how to say the right things and not go through with it. Fellow Chiefs and JOs telling the CMC something is up, him telling them the right thing, and then they drop it since, hey, CMCs got this. If this doesn't end up as a text book case study, I would be shocked.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:44 |
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I thought there was a CG that ran aground near saipan about ten years ago. Edit: Yeah a few post up.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 15:52 |
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SPACE HOMOS posted:I thought there was a CG that ran aground near saipan about ten years ago. My old ship, the Port Royal, ran aground outside the harbor right near the Honolulu airport. It had the prettiest blue bottom.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 16:59 |
Boon posted:My old ship, the Port Royal, ran aground outside the harbor right near the Honolulu airport. It had the prettiest blue bottom. Sitting on SIPR reading the slowly worsening SITREP updates from Port Royal each day provided some solid entertainment for a few minutes of each watch during my deployment that year. E: Navy Crimes has updated the original story. It looks like the CO and CHENG were, in fact, found guilty of fraternization as part of the Conduct Unbecoming charges at mast. So, there you go. Octopode fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 17:47 |
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Anyone know a HM SF? I've got my HM contract and I head to boot in september, I'm trying to get more information on how getting into SF pipeline at HM A School works.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 18:26 |
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Octopode posted:E: Navy Crimes has updated the original story. It looks like the CO and CHENG were, in fact, found guilty of fraternization as part of the Conduct Unbecoming charges at mast. So, there you go. CHENG must have been in a drought to want to sleep with a fat headed guy who had facial paralysis.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 18:35 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 09:32 |
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Wokrider posted:Anyone know a HM SF? There are a few special warfare options for HMs. SF is Army, so you're looking at the wrong branch. Options for HM: Marine Force Recon - qualify for fleet marine force via Field Medical Service School or Field Medical Training Battalion (whatever they're calling it now) and then basically you do the entire Basic Recon course with the Marines and then go to a Recon unit. MARSOC - usually you have to qualify as recon first, but occasionally if you're just a pimp and know the right people you can get these billets as just an experienced FMF guy. Dive Medical Technician - work with ND, EOD and occasionally SEAL teams (in a non-operator capacity). If you want to be an operator in the Navy, you should sign up as a SEAL and then go to BUD/S. Generally speaking they will recruit for Dive Med/ Recon at Corps School, in the same way they recruit for ND/EOD/SEAL in the civilian world. A 'dive motivator' will come one week and administer a fitness test. If you score highly enough (generally speaking they're looking for 80+ situps/pushups, 12+ pullups, 9ish minute run, 10ish minute swim), then they'll put you in a special class where you do extra PT sessions with guys who have qualified previously and worked in those billets. They used to have you work out with the ND/EOD/SEAL candidates across the street when it was in Chicago, but now that HM A is in Texas, that's probably not a thing anymore. Long story short, there is no HM to SF crossover, there's just a few sub-jobs of HM some SF-ish capacities. If you want to be an operator, you need SEAL in your contract. EDIT: I had orders to dive school, spent two months TAD with ND/SEAL/EOD units, and then got into the University of Pennsylvania and peaced out of the Navy instead. I know a good number of guys who went to BUD/S and BRC, so if you have any specific questions, I'll do my best to answer, but I haven't made it any farther than some guy in admin saying "sure, what the hell, print this guy some orders." TheQuietWilds fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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