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Mormon Star Wars posted:Holy poo poo, 5% fee being based on the buyout is going to gently caress up the artifact market bad. It's the same fee as before, it's just up front. If it doesn't sell it gets returned. At least that's what I read about it, I could be wrong. edit: oh i found the dev post and they did change it, my bad Pithos posted:The auction house fees have changed from being a percentage of the vendor price to a percentage of the buyout (or bid, if bid only) price. The percentages (2.5% to 5%, based on duration) have not changed. There goes the unstable market. FruitNYogurtParfait fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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No refunds means no posting. gg trion!
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Aug 6, 2014 21:39
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Yeah I have a feeling that gets changed within a couple weeks if the fee isn't currently returned.
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Aug 6, 2014 21:54
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Rianeva posted:No refunds means no posting. gg trion! They are hyping that the patch comes with a years worth of market data, but that data is gonna be pretty useless since it's data from a market where you could list stuff for cheap. Looking at Deadtear's example, it's going to be averaging a years worth of "You can put up this artifact for 1000p at the cost of one silver" and a month of "You have to pay a huge amount of plat to put this artifact up."
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Aug 6, 2014 21:55
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Yeppppppppp, consumables/crafting mats will be stable, rex might be stable, everything else is gonna freefall.
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Aug 6, 2014 22:03
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It's really stupid to add a non-refundable fee. Also, do people have to actually sell to a buy order, or will a buy order automatically grab things that are posted below that price? Because it seems like this system is set up really poorly.
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Aug 6, 2014 22:21
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Tom Powers posted:It's really stupid to add a non-refundable fee. I think the latter.
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Aug 6, 2014 22:24
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Tom Powers posted:It's really stupid to add a non-refundable fee. I don't know the answer to that, but I know that creating a buy order has the same 5% fee that gets eaten if the order doesn't get fulfilled. Someone on the forums cancelled a buy order for REX and lost 100p.
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Aug 6, 2014 22:25
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Yeah, buy orders check current and new postings and will buy them if they can. That's not so bad. The non-refundable fee is hilarious though. It will make a decent plat sink for a week before people figure out all of their 800 plat each for 100 REX postings will never sell and just cost them 4k. Edit: Since they basically just got rid of the "bid" functionality entirely by recommending Buyout only (and not even having a buyout/bid option, since nobody ever used bids to begin with) they should really just get rid of auction and buy order duration entirely. I'd be perfectly happy with a non-refundable fee then, just post my poo poo and leave it until somebody wants it. Edit2: Oh wait you can still do buyout/bid. gently caress that though, I think I've had a total of 3 of my auctions ever get bid on, even if the bid is cheaper than other people's buyouts, people want their poo poo now. Tom Powers fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Aug 6, 2014 |
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Aug 6, 2014 22:28
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Tom Powers posted:Edit2: Oh wait you can still do buyout/bid. gently caress that though, I think I've had a total of 3 of my auctions ever get bid on, even if the bid is cheaper than other people's buyouts, people want their poo poo now. I get bids, but only from people mass buying white artifacts to turn into ribbons. (The only reason I found that out was that one day I got several whispers from different people asking why I put each white artifact as an individual auction instead of a stack since it made it inconvenient for them to mass-buy, haha)
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Mormon Star Wars posted:I get bids, but only from people mass buying white artifacts to turn into ribbons.  I've been selling a lot of food because I've been able to double my money pretty quickly, I'll post stuffed mushrooms for over a plat buyout and around 60g bid, people will buyout a few stacks per day, nobody has EVER placed a minimum bid on them. I've been doing that for weeks now. Somebody min bid on an artifact which was super overpriced anyway and some bags I accidentally posted too low bid and the buyout was pretty high and then somebody undercut me. That's all I've ever noticed. It's been the same way in every game I've played. The opportunity to make money off of the market exists because everyone is super lazy and wants poo poo as soon as possible.
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Aug 6, 2014 23:26
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Based on some of the feedback from this thread, as well as internal discussions on it, we'll be making the following changes for next week. We'll be increasing the maximum number of hours that an auction can last, and be adjusting the pricing accordingly. Short - 12 Hours - 0.75% Medium - 48 Hours - 2% Long - 168 Hours - 5% ~Daglar
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Mormon Star Wars posted:Based on some of the feedback from this thread, as well as internal discussions on it, we'll be making the following changes for next week. That's cool, but what about the loving fee being non-refundable
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Whoa... more than 2 posts in a day. Something must have happened!
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necrotic posted:Whoa... more than 2 posts in a day. Something must have happened! It involves the ah, sky is falling.
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I don't know what the point of the fee being non-refundable was supposed to be, if it was to help their infrastructure then they'll probably be disappointed when people are spamming trade chat instead.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:08
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I'm assuming it was to curb people posting stuff for crazy prices (which are probably fair prices to begin with) and to add in a plat sink. It's a little late to be adding a plat sink, though, the economy is already screwed.
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Tom Powers posted:I'm assuming it was to curb people posting stuff for crazy prices (which are probably fair prices to begin with) and to add in a plat sink. It's not even like prices are out of control, epic drop greaters were 5k a year ago, they're running between 2.5 and 5 according to trade spam. Rex are being bought for only 100-200 more than when I quit. Basically they did something stupid to fix a problem that didn't exist
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Aug 7, 2014 05:46
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Thing is, it already takes a cut of the final sale, so there is already a "plat sink." They could have just raised the sale percentage. The only sensible reason to add a percentage-based listing fee is to reduce the number of listings.
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OneEightHundred posted:I don't know what the point of the fee being non-refundable was supposed to be, if it was to help their infrastructure then they'll probably be disappointed when people are spamming trade chat instead. They've posted that the reasons are to make it a bigger plat sink and because their server can't handle all the auctions people are putting up right now so they want to discourage "sub-optimal" (their word) auctions. In other words, the change is to stop people from using the AH. And they have succeeded!
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We're gonna spend a shitload of manhours on good changes to the ah what should we do next? Oh I know, make people not loving use it.
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our servers are garbage so we're going to ruin this feature!!!!
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Aug 7, 2014 18:53
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One good thing came out of this I guess, I had a buy order up for a rex before the ah poo poo itself and I seem to have gotten double the whole fee back.
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deadtear posted:One good thing came out of this I guess, I had a buy order up for a rex before the ah poo poo itself and I seem to have gotten double the whole fee back. this was why trion took the AH down, people were abusing this on multiple accounts/characters to make hella plat
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shut up gelly posted:this was why trion took the AH down, people were abusing this on multiple accounts/characters to make hella plat I didn't cancel it or anything, I put up order, came back 2 days later and got double. You'd think that with it expiring after the fixes it wouldn't have happened.
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Looking to try out this or ESO. Any thoughts towards one or the other? Besides the obvious F2P vs subscription.
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Rift, because while Trion has made some bad decisions, it's still more fun than the trainwreck that is ESO.
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Aug 10, 2014 11:54
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Xilni ingame as well looking for a guild invite.
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in as Thosehealswhen
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Aug 11, 2014 03:20
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Just made an account named Diqnol.
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KaneTW posted:Rift, because while Trion has made some bad decisions, it's still more fun than the trainwreck that is ESO. If you want a more in-depth review, I tried ESO and it didn't "grab" me before level 20 - which basically took loving forever. Rift grabbed me REALLY quick, because what I'd call the "tutorial" was short and to the point, they had videos detailing what was actually different in the game, videos you could actually skip if you wanted to and most people do and then ask very basic questions, and there is sooo much stuff to do in it besides the obligatory quest grind. Rift has pretty good PVE, and that's basically it - ironically, it's more sandboxy than what could have been really successful if it was just loving Skyrim Online. Evidently people don't even PVP anymore in ESO and they're doing a big patch to discourage people from taking turns flipping the "open world" keeps PVE style intentionally for points. So with that in mind, I can't really endorse Rift's PVP (it feels a lot like PVE) but it has ESO beat.
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Sub 60 pvp in rift is fun and ok, max level pvp is loving awful and it feels like everyone has the burst of vanilla era warriors but the survivability of actual pve tanks, so if you're not maxed geared you might as well not bother.
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I'm getting an error when trying to log on: "Your external IP address has changed since you authenticated. Please exit the game and re-enter your user name and password." I've answered some authentication email from Trion in my email, changed my password, updated Steam, and tried using the mobile authenticator, but still am getting this error. Googling hasn't turned up much in terms of a substantial solution aside from filling out a support ticket, which I've also done.
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Aug 14, 2014 22:45
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Sgt. Slaughter posted:I'm getting an error when trying to log on: Log out of Glyph entirely, log back in, profit.
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Aug 14, 2014 23:47
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37th Chamber posted:Log out of Glyph entirely, log back in, profit. Tried this. Clicking logout at the top of the glyph launcher, re-entering username & password, etc, doesn't get me any further.
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Aug 14, 2014 23:54
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Your ISP might be doing something fishy, like a transparent proxy or bonding connections.
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Aug 15, 2014 00:19
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Sgt. Slaughter posted:Tried this. Clicking logout at the top of the glyph launcher, re-entering username & password, etc, doesn't get me any further. Go here: http://www.whatismyip.com/ And refresh a few times, does it change?
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So I was thinking of using RANDOM.ORG to make a character in this game. I got the idea from an older WoW thread. Basically, everything but the server and my character's gender would be randomly generated by assigning each choice with a number value, putting it in that website, and picking the option based on the outcome. everything. Defiant/Guardian: 1-2 Race? 1-3 Appearance? 1-X (click the next arrow for however many times you get in the roll) Name? 1-x (see above) Class? 1-4 Souls? 1-? (re-roll if you receive the same number) How many skill points per soul? 1-61 I think this game lends itself pretty well to this idea. I'm looking forward to seeing what I come up with.
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deimos posted:Go here: http://www.whatismyip.com/ On trying to log in the next day I got on first try without issue. I guess my ISP was doing something weird that day.
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Looking for a guild invite. Character name: Phermaoite. See you all in game!
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